REACH 562 - What are your views on the new FWA guidelines? What else can be done to improve working conditions?
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27 Apr 2024 (10am - 7pm)
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26/4/24, 10:00 am - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
The National Trades Union Congress (NTUC) announced on April 25 that they will continue to help white-collar workers whose jobs are affected by emerging technologies like artificial intelligence (AI), and has been boosting support for professionals, managers and executives (PMEs) in areas like workplace fairness and protection, career progression and job placement.
NTUC secretary-general Ng Chee Meng noted that PME numbers will continue to increase and form a vital part of Singapore’s workforce, and that NTUC is committed to provide PME with the support they need on career protection, progression and placements.
💬 *What are your thoughts on the support measures for PMEs? Do you think these will help improve job stability for PMEs?*
📌 *Stepping up of workplace representation through affiliated unions and associations*
More unions are now representing PMEs after NTUC has been stepping up workplace representation through its affiliated unions and associations. NTUC has 58 affiliated unions and seven associations as at April 2024.
📌 *Nine recommendations to better support PMEs released in 2021*
In 2021, a taskforce by NTUC and the Singapore National Employers Federation released nine recommendations to better support PMEs, after a year-long consultation exercise to pinpoint better ways to assist PMEs.
📌 *A new career centre by NTUC’s Employment and Employability Institute (e2i)*
NTUC’s Employment and Employability Institute recently opened a new career centre in April. The centre at One Marina Boulevard offers workers – especially professionals, managers, executives and technicians (PMETs) – tools, job opportunities and resources to boost their employability.
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26/4/24, 10:27 am - +D LwT: https://youtu.be/Iqav4Wy3j5Y?si=USBT-xAxN7FLePw5
26/4/24, 10:29 am - +D LwT: Apple pulls Meta's WhatsApp, Threads from China store over security issues - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo-KJYsN-g
26/4/24, 10:30 am - +D LwT: Changi Airport's quarterly passenger traffic tops pre-pandemic level for first time - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOrYMr8thS4
26/4/24, 11:08 am - +Frankie Wee: Layoff is matter time upgrade skill and core strength training AI.
We need to know more about AI system how we can handles the job as well as timing speed productivity cost business and wage efficiency stay employability against lose job.
26/4/24, 11:10 am - +Frankie Wee: And also there will be war between US and China has different chip maker example intel and AMD that China can make successful without US.
26/4/24, 11:29 am - +Rama: Upskill and mid career switch are essential to mitigate a fast changing world wide work environment .
26/4/24, 11:30 am - +Frankie Wee: We would love to heard by 1st May Labour Day
26/4/24, 11:36 am - +Rama: Agree
26/4/24, 11:57 am - +Jack Sparrow: Apart from what NTUC will do, we should look at the national ecosystem on emerging tech to prepare our population from young too.
26/4/24, 12:15 pm - +Jiimmy Chew: Jack Sparrow are you tech savvy 😜
26/4/24, 12:24 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
"NTUC going all out to attract more PMEs to unions".
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/international/ntuc-going-all-out-attract-more-pmes-unions#:~:text=NTUC%20going%20all%20out%20to%20attract%20more%20PMEs%20to%20unions
26/4/24, 12:34 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. NTUC going all out to attract PME to join unions will be a proactive steps to help PMEs.
2. In the past, PMEs mainly shy away from joining Unions because companies especially tech companies don't seems to encourage it. Because its seems like going against the companies interest.
3. PMEs don't have a clue where, which Unions and how to join.
4. I recall when I express interest in joining Unions, I was invited by SMMWU - The Singapore Manual & Mercantile Workers' Union.
5. I was wondering how this metal and mercantile union got to do with IT?
6. Hence I didn't join because i feel that it may not know how to represent IT workers.
7. I hope there is a IT union now.
8. The closest that I come across is Union of Telecom Employees. Is this the right Union for IT workers?
26/4/24, 12:40 pm - +Rama: Points 7 needs addressing
26/4/24, 12:42 pm - +Rama: Point 8 needs clarification
26/4/24, 12:44 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. I feel that the relevant Unions should actively go to companies by companies to recruit PMEs to join or at least send application and brochures to all employees and new employees to join.
26/4/24, 12:51 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. For eg. IT Union should have categorised companies as follows:-
a. GLCs - NCS, ST Engineering, Crimson Logic ST Telemedia, Singtel, Starhub etc.
b. MNCs - Microsoft, Google, HP, IBM, Amazon, Salesforce, Meta etc.
c. SMEs
2. And then systematically arrange seminars for IT workers to attend and join in attendance with the companies management and HR.
3. At the same time, using the HR namelist to send application and brochures for IT workers to join.
4. This will be the only way to ensure PMEs have a good chance to join and be represented by the appropriate Unions. <This message was edited>
26/4/24, 12:54 pm - +Rama: How welcome are unions from management!?
26/4/24, 12:58 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
I think companies are not really interested in inviting Unions in general - this is my perception, in particular PMEs.
In the past, manpower policy is - leave it to PMEs to negotiate with employers on their employment contract.
Now government seems to have a change in heart, and are actively getting Unions to get involved to represent PMEs.
Hence, similar proactive steps like representing blue collars workers - should be extended to white collar workers and PMEs.
26/4/24, 12:59 pm - +Rama: Probably
26/4/24, 1:08 pm - +Thank You Woman: Somethings must have happen hence this is coming up.
26/4/24, 1:09 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Another thing, as mention GLCs, MNCs and SMEs - to encourage PMEs to join Union.
2. What about civil servants eg. Govtech, Smart Nation, CSA and others?
3. I thought civil servants will expose to vulnerability of tech disruptors such as AI, etc that will similarly affect their jobs - and will need training, protection, compensation and representation.
4. They should similarly be encouraged to join Union.
26/4/24, 1:09 pm - +Thank You Woman: Should have enquire on point 5 only then it will be clear.
26/4/24, 1:10 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Tech disruptors such as AI will affect jobs in double quick time. <This message was edited>
26/4/24, 1:11 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
26/4/24, 1:14 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Even WhatsApp are embedded with Meta AI - Llama 3.
Equally good, comparable to OpenAI ChatGpt Generative AI.
Provide me instant answer in less than a minute that I spend 1/2 hour to do.
26/4/24, 1:22 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
But realized that AI - Generative AI such as ChatGpt, Llama 3 - are as good as the best person in the whole world in a particular topic.
But unable to provide answers that are in R&D and not yet developed.
For eg., I tested the Llama 3 LLM GAI, this is the answer I get.
26/4/24, 1:24 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
26/4/24, 1:25 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
26/4/24, 1:29 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. See Llama 3 cannot provide an answer about qubits IP address schemes and quantum encryption code.
2. It only can provide the current binary IP addressing scheme and binary encryption code.
3. Generative AI is as good as the best person in developed IT based on the dataset it collected and train on.
4. It cannot invent new stuff.
26/4/24, 1:32 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Also at this current stage, Generative AI are not able to translate concepts into graphical representation, charts and diagram.
Only text form.
Still need human intervention.
26/4/24, 1:32 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
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26/4/24, 1:33 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
26/4/24, 1:35 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
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26/4/24, 1:37 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
So PMEs still will be required & will not be easily displaced and go out of jobs.
But solid hands-on skillets, up-to-date knowledge, and relevant skills will be required.
Because Generative AI, also can generate codes.
26/4/24, 1:40 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
But Generative AI do short-circuit my times that are needed to complete my work.
It give me a very good framework to start with and need not begin from scratch.
I can complete my job in double quick time - productivity go up multiple fold.
26/4/24, 1:41 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
26/4/24, 1:43 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
See the foundation codes it generates in less than 1 minute that I usually take 15 minutes to code.
It cannot be copy and paste and need modification.
But it certainly short-circuit the time that needed to code from scratch compare to amending it.
26/4/24, 1:47 pm - +~l or Smiley face: It's is called sgtech.org.sg
26/4/24, 1:48 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Is this URL link - application to join Union?
26/4/24, 1:48 pm - +~l or Smiley face: https://www.sgtech.org.sg/
26/4/24, 1:49 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
It look like an event.
Not a union website.
26/4/24, 2:04 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
26/4/24, 2:04 pm - +KL: Hmmm than one question the trade unions represent who in Singapore ?
26/4/24, 2:07 pm - +Rama: I just don't feel it right for a politician to be T loaned to a union and then go back to politics!
26/4/24, 2:13 pm - +KL: On top also Maybe someone should mystery shop at the NTUC booth at those hub like AMK etc . Than maybe u all can have a clue what I mean <This message was edited>
26/4/24, 2:19 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Ng Chee Meng is a very good labour chief looking at all the labour initiative coming out.
1. Being a government man, he can get access to the government and provide direct feedback to the government.
2. At the same time, he can have 1st hand information on government policies that affect labour and business.
3. Unlike Unions in overseas countries that come from the labour - they are more militants, unable to compromise, stubbornly stand on labour interest without regard and unable to work with business and government to forge a win-win outcomes.
4. As a part government and labour union chief - he is able to have more weight talking to the business while safeguarding labour interest and government policy to help both labour and business to thrive together in a Win-Win outcomes.
26/4/24, 2:20 pm - +Rama: Resigned from politics, become a unionist, Resigned from union, re-enter politics.
26/4/24, 2:21 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Personally I feel that Ng Chee Meng is conscientious and work very hard to protect the labour interest without being antagonistic to the business.
At the same time, he can work with the government very well to ensure labour policies help the workers and the business.
26/4/24, 2:21 pm - +KL: The open door really suppress wage at all level so who should we reach out to ?
26/4/24, 2:22 pm - +SL: It depends on the system design of the specific gen AI and the basic data garbage in garbage out principle applies. If the sources of data are incomplete or data is contaminated, the output will not meet expectations.
26/4/24, 2:22 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Suppress wages?
I thought Singapore workers wages keep going up?
26/4/24, 2:22 pm - +KL: I leave it to data team. Since data is not open <This message was edited>
26/4/24, 2:24 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Hmm...
That's why PMEs jobs are still safe.
Can use Generative AI to help us - it really increase our productivity.
But they cannot replace PMEs jobs yet.
26/4/24, 2:25 pm - +KL: Maybe u need to join Lazada
26/4/24, 2:25 pm - +KL: Tiagong sone are replaced but cos they a little expensive but some are PR thou, that why I wonder unions represent who ? <This message was edited>
26/4/24, 2:26 pm - +SL: Entanglement and hyoergramph topic not covered by this gen AI?
26/4/24, 2:26 pm - +KL: This message was deleted
26/4/24, 2:27 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Don't seems like.
Do you have illustrations from chatgpt how it is done?
26/4/24, 2:28 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
26/4/24, 2:28 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
26/4/24, 2:28 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Eg. This is definitely not helpful.
And not providing the right solution to the question. <This message was edited>
26/4/24, 2:29 pm - +SL: There are many types of AI; I agree that gen AI are something that is primitive and not in a position to replace pmet. However, industrial AI maybe having direct impact to pmet.
26/4/24, 2:30 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
I see.
Well I not yet expose to industrial AI yet.
That's why I am still probing.
26/4/24, 2:30 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
To see how far AI can go.
26/4/24, 2:32 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
I don't know about Lazada.
But based on my knowledge for those in IT fields which I know - their pay all very high.
26/4/24, 2:32 pm - +KL: How about other fields ?
26/4/24, 2:32 pm - +SL: Beware of the group-thinking phenomenon and different values of gen AI subscripted, which will segregate the users from others when everyone uses gen AI, and users lose competitive advantages.
26/4/24, 2:32 pm - +KL: U can’t just base on one sector alone
26/4/24, 2:34 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
That's why I still probing the full potential and capabilities of Generative AI.
I want to see how far AI can go and what impact and damages it can cause to our PMEs. <This message was edited>
26/4/24, 2:57 pm - +SL: Based on my limited assessment, the impact of gen AI on pet is minimal at this stage as the maturity level of such tools is just beginning.
26/4/24, 3:01 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Yes for now.
But my intuition tell me that it can do alot more when it gets more and more mature.
When that happens, then PMEs need to rethink what else can they do - short of all doing r&d work.
26/4/24, 3:23 pm - +Jiimmy Chew: AI learning by itself depending on inputs as it learns. programing 101. GIGO
26/4/24, 3:24 pm - +Jiimmy Chew: Garbage in garbage out 🤧
26/4/24, 3:42 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
26/4/24, 3:43 pm - +SL: In a dynamic working environment, upskilling and re-training are very important to ensure individuals are relevant to the job market.
26/4/24, 3:43 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
This is the AI driven robot that is replacing cleaner at MRT station.
26/4/24, 3:45 pm - +SL: I saw video clips online on the AI customer service robot deployed by the Bank of China in China. It looks like AI has machine-learning capabilities.
26/4/24, 3:50 pm - +SL: https://youtu.be/btVwqEs8-nQ?si=X1Sw8A3nbcCuidjz
26/4/24, 3:52 pm - +SL: The supply chain decoupling on chips continues as both are managing the risks.
26/4/24, 3:55 pm - +SL: With continued upskilling, the risk of layoff and no longer being able to get another job should be able to be managed; I guess we need to use the skill future credit to increase productivity and upgrade our skills in advance to prepare for any possible future impact.
26/4/24, 3:55 pm - +Frankie Wee: Only closing hours robot will operator cleaning floor
26/4/24, 3:56 pm - +Frankie Wee: That was why we will heard 1st May Labour Day announcement
26/4/24, 3:56 pm - +Frankie Wee: Skillfuture will additional credit more than
26/4/24, 4:00 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
26/4/24, 4:06 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Yes.
This robot got machine learning capabilities.
It can learn like a human and interact like a human.
26/4/24, 4:09 pm - +SL: NTUC aims to step up support for PMEs amid layoffs, tech advancements
https://www.straitstimes.com/business/ntuc-aims-to-step-up-support-for-pmes-amid-layoffs-tech-advancements
NTUC said the Ministry of Manpower launched the Complementarity Assessment (Compass) framework after heeding the union’s call to level the playing field for local PMEs.
Ntuc and our Government are ensuring the best foreign talent is brought into Singapore to build the industry.
26/4/24, 4:11 pm - +Frankie Wee: I believe robot has no emotional nor physical abuse. It’s create by engineer technical and use database all into chip memory commands behaviour.
26/4/24, 4:44 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Actually, undergraduates in computer science/computer engineering can already develop the 2 robots in their group projects and internship.
For example,
1. My son and his team build a similar robot use by MRT minus the broom and container to store the rubbish - to navigate a maze using vast arrays of IT technologies like computer vision, image recognition, color recognition, python programming, sensors etc.
2. My son internship uses machine learning and natural languages - I think he use python programming to develop AI that think and interact like a human training on dataset in an AI model with a high-tech R&D company.
So such robots and AI technologies are quite achievable by our current new graduates. <This message was edited>
26/4/24, 5:24 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
This robot is likely to have been developed with:-
1. Speech recognition
2. Image recognition using computer vision - as it can differentiate a female.
3. Machine Learning - learn and train from dataset - likely develop via python programming - as it learn, think and interact like a human.
4. And possibly NLP (natural language processing) - as it seems to be able to do sentiment analysis. <This message was edited>
26/4/24, 5:25 pm - +Frankie Wee: Singapore will be like that one in future
26/4/24, 5:25 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
A Singaporean undergraduates from NTU and NUS - can build this robot.
Not an issue.
26/4/24, 5:30 pm - +KL: How about STDU ? <This message was edited>
26/4/24, 5:30 pm - +KL: I thgt STDu have special lab ? <This message was edited>
26/4/24, 5:30 pm - +KL: I think they even got a wafer lab
26/4/24, 5:30 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
I don't know.
Because I am not familiar with the IT course in sutd.
26/4/24, 5:30 pm - +KL: Must survey all mah
26/4/24, 5:31 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
A wafer lab is semiconductor.
Not IT.
26/4/24, 5:31 pm - +KL: They also have lots of lab
26/4/24, 5:31 pm - +KL: Not sure what they are
26/4/24, 5:31 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Not all computer science undergraduates can do.
Only those specialise in AI.
26/4/24, 5:32 pm - +KL: Only STDU ppl can answer u liao uncle just a passerby A <This message was edited>
26/4/24, 5:34 pm - +Frankie Wee: STUD is designed technology innovation
26/4/24, 5:35 pm - +Frankie Wee: But it’s not researcher
26/4/24, 5:35 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Actually I don't know what it means.
Because all engineering and computer science - must start with design first before coding.
26/4/24, 5:36 pm - +Frankie Wee: <Media omitted>
26/4/24, 5:37 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
NTU and NUS are research based Universities.
Because undergraduates have to work with professors who need to publish paper in their research work.
26/4/24, 5:37 pm - +KL: I see
26/4/24, 5:37 pm - +Frankie Wee: There are many major differences study
26/4/24, 5:41 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Don't know what it means - when the emphasis is on design.
For example the following design must come out first before engineers can build and do coding.
Without design, engineer cannot build or don't know how to build.
26/4/24, 5:42 pm - +Frankie Wee: It’s technology innovation mean create new idea
26/4/24, 5:42 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
26/4/24, 5:43 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
With this design, then the following domain engineer will know what to build.
26/4/24, 5:44 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
REACH - *Login and Authentication detail Workflows - to do Bank Transaction via Internet/Intranet - to safeguard against Online Scams*
9 Apr 2024
_*Pre-requisite*_
Public User End
1. Users smartphone must have 2 SIM cards - SIM-1 for In-band Internet connection (User will have to buy and subscribe this SIM-1 on their own).
2. Banks/Telcos/Government - co-sponsor to issue every users SIM-2 free for OOB (Out-Of-Band) (National) Intranet connection - to perform "Live Biometric authentication" - for bank transaction, CPF transaction and other public-driven confidential transaction.
Telco End
1. Maintain current 4G/5G base stations and network for users and Internet access. (Inband network) Adopt public IP address.
2. Set up new 4G/5G base stations and network for users and National Intranet access (co-sponsor by Telcos and Government to setup National Intranet) - for Live Biometric Authentication (with no connection to Internet). (OOB - Out-Of-Band network) Adopt Private IP address.
3. Note:- there are no physical connection and routing between the Inband network and OOB network. As OOB network are adopting Private IP address, physical connectivity and routing cannot be activated to bridge the Inband network adopting Public IP address - as it will trigger "IP conflict" - and cause both network to go down.
Bank, Financial Institution, CPF end
1. Every network devices, security devices, servers (2 NICs) will have 2 different IP - one coming from inband network and another from OOB network.
2. Bank Apps will update into the database (that are not IP addressable) via fiber-channel.
_Login process into Bank mobile apps or Bank Web page via "Internet"_
1. User use "In-band Internet SIM-1" to connect to Internet - Bank login webpage - key in "userid" and "password". (via public IP address e.g 192.168.x.x Subnet 255.255.255.0 - Class C address) via smartphone mobile bank (Internet) apps or laptop Bank https Web page via SIM-1.
2. Login userid and password will be updated into Database by Bank Authentication apps via fiber-channel. Login credentials will be keep alive for 30 minutes (for example).
3. Bank Apps or System or User --- will then automatically (or manually) disable "In-band Internet SIM-1" - to cut off connection to the Internet (so that online Internet scammers will not be able to hack, scam or remotely take control of the user smartphone or laptops after this process - as the Internet connection will be cut off).
(Note a:- Important for bank apps have anti-malware measures and capabilities to ensure user devices (smartphone or laptop) are sanitised - else will refuse user login to bank apps until and unless user devices are clean out of malware.)
(Note b:- If users use laptop, user smartphone "In-band Internet SIM-1" should be used as Wireless hotspot or mobile hotspot (USB tethering) for the laptop connection to Internet to access bank login webpage.)
_Login process into OOB (Out-Of-Band) National Biometric Authentication mobile apps or Web page via "Intranet"_
1. Bank Apps or System or User --- will then automatically (or manually) enable "OOB Out-Of-Band Intranet SIM-2" in user smartphone - to begin Biometric Authentication in the OOB Intranet. For Intranet, Private IP address will be adopted (eg. 10.x.x.x Class A IP Address).
Note:- This Private Class A IP address in the Intranet network cannot enable route and be routed to Internet network - as this will crash both networks due to IP conflict with public IP address from the Internet.
(Hence, logically, no way online scammers can activate the route between the Internet and our Intranet - to hack into our Intranet. Another physical safeguard is that, there are no physical network connectivity between the Intranet network and Internet network --- a real "Air-Gap".)
2. Bank (Intranet) Apps will pick up the user record to check the status of user login banking credentials updated into the database (including the 30 minutes timing).
3. Bank (Intranet) Apps will then be redirected into the Central National Live Biometric system to authenticate the users (Face recognition/fingerprint/IRIS/Voice etc) - to ensure that users is a legitimate and authentic users (not scammers).
Note :- As Intranet is not accessible by Online scammers coming from the Internet - no way scammers can steal the live biometric of users or hack into users' bank account to steal users' money - as fund transfer and all bank transactions are done within Intranet and not Internet.
This is an "Air-Gap" concept - the "Barrier Approach" - ie. if Intranet is not physically connected to Internet - there is a barrier between the 2 networks - online scam cannot succeed.
4. Upon successful live biometric authentication, users will then be granted authorisation to do bank transaction and any transaction records can be updated by Intranet bank apps into the database.
5. When banking transaction is completed within the Intranet - Bank Apps or System or User --- will then automatically (or manually) disable "OOB Out-Of-Band Intranet SIM-2" - to cut off connection to the Intranet.
6. Thereafter, Bank Apps or System or User --- will then automatically (or manually) reactivate the "In-band Internet SIM-1" - to allow users to connect to the Internet to access their smartphone Internet data surfing or WhatsApp/Telegram communication.
_(Note :- for bank users or foreigners accessing from overseas to do local bank authentication - they can only do so via the "Inband Internet" - as they will not be accessible to the Intranet). In this case, biometric authentication will not be a good idea for overseas users doing local bank transaction)._
26/4/24, 5:45 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
A simple diagram - but you see, so many domain engineers involved in building and coding.
Without the drawing design, nobody knows what to build.
So design always come first.
26/4/24, 6:00 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Hence I don't know how far AI can go.
Based on the above assessment, Generative AI can only do 10% of the work.
Not sure how far industrial AI can go.
26/4/24, 6:01 pm - +Frankie Wee: How about affects Work flexibility arrangements
26/4/24, 6:02 pm - +Frankie Wee: Ai can run operator while human flexibility working hour
26/4/24, 6:04 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
No issues with flexible work arrangements.
Because engineers can work remotely unless they need to be on sites to mount and install equipment.
Even configuration and coding can be done at home and access the data center equipment remotely.
26/4/24, 6:05 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Unless the work involve code "red".
26/4/24, 6:05 pm - +Frankie Wee: In future will developers higher and very challenging economy outside like China
26/4/24, 6:07 pm - +Frankie Wee: <Media omitted>
26/4/24, 6:26 pm - +SL: Dark factory, dark office
26/4/24, 6:29 pm - +Frankie Wee: I can said Singapore govt encouraged marriage need to have more babies it will help them cope de-stress while work is flexible
26/4/24, 6:39 pm - +Rama: Look at current legislation and why its not being a help. Talk to employers, the various chambers of commerce, assets, involve ntuc/mom
26/4/24, 6:40 pm - +Rama: Find out how pro family are the various businesses across all sectors of the economy. Where are the stubborn points that need addressing. Sit down and trash things out .
26/4/24, 6:45 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
⏰ We will be closing the chat in *15 minutes* ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
26/4/24, 6:59 pm - +~l or Smiley face: <Media omitted>
26/4/24, 6:59 pm - +D LwT: MFA director-general admits lying to ministry about use of diplomatic bags https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/mfa-diplomatic-bag-director-general-panadol-watches-4294146
26/4/24, 7:00 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
26/4/24, 7:00 pm - ~ REACH Singapore changed this group's settings to allow only admins to send messages to this group
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