REACH 558 - What are your views on the adjustments in salaries within the social service sector? How can we further attract and retain talent within the social service sector?
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08 Apr 2024 (10am - 7pm)
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8/4/24, 10:00 am - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
The latest pay benchmarks released by the National Council of Social Service (NCSS) on April 1 show an average increase of approximately 8 percent in recommended salaries for positions within the social service.
💬 *What are your views on the adjustments in salaries within the social service sector? How can we further attract and retain talent within the social service sector?*
📌 *Salary Adjustments Across Job Roles:*
The adjustment of salaries within the social service sector, where the average 8 percent increase in FY2024 guidelines is determined by the gap between current salaries and updated market benchmarks. This results in more conservative raises for roles already in line with or above market standards, while roles falling below experience more significant adjustments to bridge the gap.
📌 *Social Service Agencies (SSAs):*
Montfort Care’s chief strategy officer Aileen Ng said salaries in the social service sector have increased significantly in the past decade, and they are now competitive compared with related jobs in other sectors. Adherence to these guidelines is crucial to attract and retain quality manpower in SSAs. Ms Aileen Ng mentioned that at Montfort Care, “We no longer lose staff due to salaries. This is a strong testimony that salaries are now competitive.”
📌 *Efforts to Ensure Competitive Remuneration:*
The Minister for Social and Family Development, Mr Masagos Zulkifli noted the increasing demands on the social service sector and the need for an additional 2,000 professionals over the next five years.
To continue attracting and retaining talent in the social service sector, the Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) and NCSS will work closely with MSF-funded SSAs. Strategies include periodically reviewing salary guidelines, improving career pathways, enhancing the skills and competencies of social service professionals, and providing support to SSAs to meet these guidelines.
👉[ST]https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/latest-pay-guidelines-for-social-service-sector-jobs-rose-by-average-of-8-msf
👉 [CNA] https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/salaries-social-service-sector-go-between-4-15-cent-benefit-20000-employees-3322631
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8/4/24, 10:22 am - +Rama: How is the work life balance?
8/4/24, 10:24 am - +Kenneth Lee WM: I think it’s a good thing to increase their salary so that it’s a living wage.
It’s most unfortunate that social services are on the “expense” side of the balance sheet. Ie not income generation. I am glad that the taxes we are paying are going to these programs.
8/4/24, 11:08 am - +~l or Smiley face: It is imperative that we have a core of well compensated salary positions and a pool of willing & non-salary volunteers to balance up the effort to get things done in a fast learning environment and stronger footings in managing an ageing friendly ecosystem...
8/4/24, 12:48 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/cna-insider/deaf-heavy-vehicle-licence-hire-me-lorry-driver-2707596
8/4/24, 12:49 pm - +Frankie Wee: Anyone idea deaf can do a job
But problem is can’t heard sometime miscommunication voice without read lip.
Maybe I said future Ai support with voice to text and able communication.
8/4/24, 1:05 pm - +KL: This message was deleted
8/4/24, 1:05 pm - +KL: U know the difference between social worker and AI and family ?
8/4/24, 1:06 pm - +KL: not sure in this group got any pay social worker , full care giver or weekly volunteer ? May be should let them share as well. <This message was edited>
8/4/24, 1:07 pm - +KL: once they share maybe everyone will have a better ideas on the another side of singapore
8/4/24, 1:08 pm - +KL: Hppe not those one day / you know those not really volunteer but have other agenda hahaha <This message was edited>
8/4/24, 1:12 pm - +KL: I will be amaze , If no social worker or any of these in this group , <This message was edited>
8/4/24, 1:16 pm - +KL: You are right :) . but cos too many singles thus will cause a lot single and social need in future . What cause single is economic . Thus need to solve root problem to ease the whole issue. If most of the chance was given to others that will left SG with the money this will cause more issue <This message was edited>
8/4/24, 2:00 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
8/4/24, 2:13 pm - +Andy: It is great to know that salary adjustments are made for them to attract new talents and retain existing staff. Apart from salary, do give them recognition, clear career path, also ensure they have work life balance not just because they are in the social service sector they have to work/on call 24/7.
8/4/24, 2:15 pm - +~l or Smiley face: 8 April, 2024
"The Eclipse of Recognition and Reward"
"If ageing is a natural progression of humankind, unstoppable and cannot be slowed down, then we should classify ageing as one natural crisis in the making, always imbalanced and always occuring...
8/4/24, 2:16 pm - +~l or Smiley face: overwhelming (乱拳打死老师傅! )
8/4/24, 2:20 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Interesting thought
8/4/24, 2:49 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Let us analyse what are social services that our Society will need :-
a. Low income group that are trap in poverty gap - whereby family couples and their children are unable to uplift themselves above the low income trap.
b. Problematic, abusive families - whereby spouse, children, elderly parents are abused, constant quarrel, fighting, mental torture, drug abuse, sucidial thoughts, youth deliquency, gangs etc.
c. Disabilities within a family - physical, mental that need caregiving and medical treatment.
d. Elderlies within a family - that needs caregivers' assistance in day-to-day living and medical treatment.
e. Inmates upon discharged and need jobs and income.
f. Low income children that needs help in education, tuition
g. School children that needs tuition and educational assistance to do well in schools.
2. Having say so, our Society will need a variety of social service professionals to provide the appropriate services to help the various groups in distress, specifically :-
a. Social Service workers
b. Counselllors
c. Psychologists
d. Psychiatrists
e. Social Service managers to manage social service programmes
etc.
3. Hence paying competitive salaries to attract talents and professionals into the social service industry become necessary.
4. Notably, as social service groups that require assistance and services - are predominantly the lower income group - they will be unlikely to pay for the services.
5. This means, it will have to pay by the Government - specifically from tax payer's tax.
6. Being an inclusive Society, and the need to uplift lower income groups, lower social status and people who encounter life problems --- so that they can escape from their "poverty and problem traps" - and become useful members of the Society that in future can contribute meaningfully to the Society and Country --- there will be a need for taxpayers to foot this bill.
8/4/24, 2:53 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Following the last topic on scam, there is a need to fill up and complete the solution gaps (specifically a safe solution in biometric authentication via Intranet) - to safeguard against Internet online scammers due to the severity and mammoth loss experience by the Singaporean and residents victims :-
In 2023, a staggering S$651.8 million was lost to fraudsters, with 46,563 scam cases reported in Singapore – nearly 50 per cent more than the number of cases reported in 2022.
Most scam cases also involve working with the SPF’s counterparts in other countries, such as Malaysia, Thailand, Japan or South Africa. “With how connected the internet has made us, we know that many scammers are based overseas,” DSP Sindhu said.
8/4/24, 2:54 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
*To enable a full digital - failsafe and foolproof 2 factor authentication via life biometric (without the risk of being stolen by online scammers)*
1. One way I can think of is to create a National Intranet Network for safe Life Biometric authentication for banking or financial transactions, specifically :-
a. Telcos, Banks and Financial Institutions create 2 physically non-connected network on the same network switches and routers - 1 for in-band 1st factor authentication using normal user ID password and 1 for Out-of-Band (OOB) 2nd factor authentication using life biometric features.
b. In-band authentication are connected to Internet and for normal banking apps/online web banking.
c. OOB authentication are specially created for mobile apps and online web - that only can come in via Telco 4G/5G network not connected to Internet - essentially a network of Intranet.
d. In other words, bank customers will have 2 SIM cards - one 4G/5G for in-band internet access and another 4G/5G for OOB intranet access for biometric authentication.
e. Banks must tie the OOB bank apps to this OOB SIM intranet network and any attempt to access via the in-band internet SIM card will fail.
(Bank anti-malware measures for phone devices must be intact to prevent scammers from remote control of user smartphone).
f. If bank users wish to use laptops or desktops to perform OOB intranet SIM biometric authentication - user must not use home WiFi or office WiFi or in-band SIM - because the bank apps will fail it.
g. Instead, bank users should activate its handphone OOB intranet SIM card as the WiFi hotspot to do the 2nd factor authentication for biometric authentication.
By doing so, a closed network architecture will be ensured - and no way scammers coming from Internet can hack and steal the life biometric from users.
This will have similar effect of closed architecture OOB like ATM banking, going to bank branch, like moneylock features.
8/4/24, 2:55 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Inband network will have 1 set of IP address (eg. 10.x.x.x)
2. OOB network will have another set of IP address (eg. 11.x.x.x)
3. So every network devices, security devices, servers (2 NICs) will have 2 different IP - one coming from inband network and another from OOB network.
4. No way online internet scammers can hack the intranet and steal the life biometric - because the 2 networks are physically segregated - "air gap" and non-routable.
8/4/24, 2:55 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
5. Since OOB network is an intranet network, private IP address can be used - and as such scammers from internet has no way to access the intranet because they are using the public IP address. Intranet using private IP address are non-routable from Internet that are using public IP address and hence online scammers has no access to the Intranet to steal our biometric data.
6. As Singapore is a small red dot, the talent pool of sophisticated AI, Machine Language, Deep Learning, Computer Vision, Neural Network Deepfakes etc are very small - mostly in hi-tech, hi-skill R&D institutions - hence are unlikely to hack the intranet. Unlike internet with world at large of 10 billion people with much bigger talent pools - but unable to access our National Intranet because of the air-gap.
7. Also if domestic hackers if to hack the Intranet and try to steal our biometric data - will be easily nab in Singapore because the private IP address issued are tie to a unique individual user.
8. Hence having such an "air-gap" design will make our online banking using Life Biometric alot safer via full Digital access (mirroring the safety bank transactions similar to physical "moneylock" functions while protecting highly confidential personal biometric data).
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8/4/24, 2:57 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
*To demonstrate and simulate POC - the feasibility of 1st factor in-band authentication via Internet and 2nd factor OOB Out-of-band authentication via Intranet for biometric authentication*
8/4/24, 2:57 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
*POC 1 - Intranet SIM network - via Wired mobile USB tethering hotspot*
1. Disable my home WiFi connection to Internet.
2. Testing Mobile Hotspot using - USB tethering - to go via my smartphone SIM simulating accessing Intranet to do 2nd biometric authentication.
3. This is to demonstrate OOB (Out-of-band) Intranet is working. And can be used to authenticate "Biometric Data".
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8/4/24, 2:57 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. When USB tethering connection is remove from Intranet connection, web site not accessible via Internet (through my home WiFi).
2. This POC demonstrate that OOB Out-of-band Intranet Network for biometric authentication - is feasible.
3. Internet scammers cannot hack in into OOB Intranet - to steal biometric data.
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4. That means, I have fully achieve the same outcome of "physical moneylock" - through "Full Digital means" - without having to go down to the banks or ATMs & and yet achieve the outcome of safe bank transactions.
8/4/24, 2:58 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
*POC 2 - Intranet SIM network - via Wireless mobile WiFi hotspot*
1. The above use wired USB tethering connection to achieve Intranet Network.
2. This 2nd POC (proof of concept) use mobile WiFi hotspot to connect to laptop and using mobile 4G SIM to access simulating Intranet connectivity (for biometric authentication).
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3. When my Wireless mobile WiFi hotspot is disconnected - my laptop unable to access Internet.
4. Hence, online scammers from Internet cannot access the Intranet (biometric authentication) - achieving the same effect of "physical moneylock".
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8/4/24, 3:36 pm - +REACH: Dear Contributors,
Please be reminded to post content relevant to the topic that is being discussed. We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!
Thank you.
Megan
8/4/24, 3:36 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
This is a barrier concept - air gap.
If online scammers in Internet cannot have connectivity access - to steal the biometric in Intranet (like physical moneylock - how to do online scams?)
So I think I could have find a solution for the government and Singaporeans.
No fear biometric data will be stolen by online scammers <This message was edited>
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8/4/24, 4:00 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
8/4/24, 4:14 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. But the vision is still to uplift all these vulnerable groups to be "given fishing rods to fish on their own".
2. And not to rely on "given fish to eat everyday".
3. Making the vulnerable to be self reliance will achieve the following:
a. Self reliance
b. Regaining their own dignity
c. Less burden on the taxpayers, and society
d. Be a useful member in contributing to the society.
8/4/24, 4:25 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
4. Hence social service professional need to focus on:-
a. Providing short term remedies and relief.
b. Medium terms provide them the means - the fishing rods, to teach them and train them to fish on their own.
c. Finally, let them swim on their own with some guidance and eventually let go - when they are ready. <This message was edited>
8/4/24, 5:38 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors*
We want to *HEAR MORE* from you!
💬 *What are your views on the adjustments in salaries within the social service sector? How can we further attract and retain talent within the social service sector?*
We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!
Megan 😊
8/4/24, 5:54 pm - +SL: It is important to mark social service salaries to the market; they are the group of employees who require attention and support so they can deliver more value-added caring services
8/4/24, 5:56 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Hi SL....
Future Skillsets and Education?
MOE, MOH, MCCY, MSF, MHA, and MND should look into existing courses in our education system to modulate and synthesize with AI driven capabilities our ITE, Poly and University pupils to train and to be exposed to new and interdisciplinary knowledge and specialisation from sociology, social services, healthcare, resources planning and facilities management to prepare for an ageing friendly ecosystem of careers and higher level of professional cares.
We should further reinforce and encourage pupils to consider taking up social studies and related careers from nursing home caregivers to centre executives and managers to social workers. Let's shake off the old mindset of social services workers as one of the dirtiest jobs and shapes it into a diginifying and significant contributors of society! And don't forget to pay competitive wages and promising career paths!
8/4/24, 5:59 pm - +Jimmy Chew: I don't mind paying for those who really embrace the calling to care for others. Fear is to those who fake it to be in the sector. Like a time where teachers were paid extremely well, attracting those who fake to take up the teaching calling and destroy a generation of learners and future leaders and impact young minds negatively <This message was edited>
8/4/24, 6:00 pm - +SL: @~I, there are 2 schools of thought on AI: generative or entertainment type of AI vs industrial-based AI, I'm not sure what are we looking forward to.
Industrial-based AI will change how social services are deliverable but generative AI will not.
8/4/24, 6:00 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
8/4/24, 6:04 pm - +~l or Smiley face: "If ageing is a natural progression of humankind, unstoppable and cannot be slowed down, then we should classify ageing as one natural crisis in the making, always imbalanced and always occuring. In all crisis we need resources from funds to helping hands in order to tackle it swifter and more timely in controlling it. We will need a well trained battalions of personnel and volunteers corp to step up and battle-ready this natural crisis. It is imperative that we have a core of well compensated salary positions and a contingent of willing & non-salary volunteers from charities and communities and grass roots to balance up the effort to get things done in a fast learning environment and stronger footings in managing an ageing friendly ecosystem of services from transport, medical to extra activities. A thorough knowledge, deep thinking and planning to achieve more predicable outcomes with positive results and excellence services.
Therefore, it is important to value all salary social workers and volunteers to embark on learning and experiencing, upgrading of skills and know-how in facing frequent and unique challenges that people aren't aware off or planned for and Cohesion, Operational Preparedness and actual doings are three keys to unlock whatever the future of ageing throws at us and unblocking any hindrances of getting older, hopefully it will not never be a crisis of our lifetime! "
-- anonymity
8/4/24, 6:04 pm - +SL: If with industrial-type AI, automated infrastructure will be the major cost (the system shall be able to upgrade in the future and modular) and shall not be a one-off target during the initial stage, and maintenance cost should be low together with manpower. However, I'm not sure if we discovered the product necessary to support local service in semi-AI mode.
8/4/24, 6:06 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Let's thinking from the perspective of "kitchen sink" ....in statistical analysis to determine the best variables and eliminating the least concerns of all....
8/4/24, 6:07 pm - +~l or Smiley face: AI is an elevator and ever going game of upping the game settings...
8/4/24, 6:16 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Two pillars to consider:
Comforts & Conveniences
If in an unique opportunity of shortage of manpower, you need to up the AI in supporting all encompassing variables into one friendlier ecosystems of delivering cares from one point to many pointers.
In the case and legacy of the USVA (war veterans services), itself a model of long term care and careers from on-site to mobile services. It's worthwhile looking at it and extract the best of the best proven formations and implement at our ends.
8/4/24, 6:44 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
⏰ We will be closing the chat in *15 minutes* ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
8/4/24, 6:46 pm - +SL: Machine learning may be the first step before the industry tap into the benefits of AI in social services? Eg Case registration, continue monitoring…
8/4/24, 6:49 pm - +SL: Regardless of whether it is human or AI, personal data protection is important, and this risk of data protection may be maintained with tools or regular training for social workers.
8/4/24, 6:54 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Twin Paradox theory...
Fact: Ageing persist over time
Paradox: asymmetrical ageing and Randomisation of effects
Resolution: Time frame or inertia frame always asymmetry in nature.
(Note: Einstein GR papers of 1916 and subsequent elaborated by Sciama and
others followed.)
8/4/24, 6:56 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Data points.... aka data mining and big data
8/4/24, 6:56 pm - +~l or Smiley face: China is a big data country to tap and to learn from....
8/4/24, 6:57 pm - +SL: Machine learning A Mature modeling, AI is still something far away for specific aspect.
8/4/24, 6:57 pm - +SL: They are good at industrial level AI
8/4/24, 6:58 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Yes, GAI perhaps coupled with all significant datasets and constantly updating will work and breakthroughs shall arrive faster than humankind could anticipate and imagine.....
8/4/24, 6:59 pm - +~l or Smiley face: They have human analytics from health to economics!
8/4/24, 6:59 pm - +SL: Gai, still for entertaining?
8/4/24, 6:59 pm - +~l or Smiley face: In progress to modulate and synthesize and twinkle into reality for commercial uses.... watch it, coming!
8/4/24, 7:00 pm - +~l or Smiley face: 8 April, 2024
"The Eclipse of Recognition and Reward"
"If ageing is a natural progression of humankind, unstoppable and cannot be slowed down, then we should classify ageing as one natural crisis in the making, always imbalanced and always occuring. In all crisis we need resources from funds to helping hands in order to tackle it swifter and more timely in controlling it. We will need a well trained battalions of personnel and volunteers corp to step up and battle-ready this natural crisis. It is imperative that we have a core of well compensated salary positions and a contingent of willing & non-salary volunteers from charities and communities and grass roots to balance up the effort to get things done in a fast learning environment and stronger footings in managing an ageing friendly ecosystem of services from transport, medical to extra activities. A thorough knowledge, deep thinking and planning to achieve more predicable outcomes with positive results and excellence services.
Therefore, it is important to value all salary social workers and volunteers to embark on learning and experiencing, upgrading of skills and know-how in facing frequent and unique challenges that people aren't aware off or planned for and Cohesion, Operational Preparedness and actual doings are three keys to unlock whatever the future of ageing throws at us and unblocking any hindrances of getting older, hopefully it will not never be a crisis of our lifetime! "
-- anonymity
Future Skillsets and Education?
MOE, MOH, MCCY, MSF, MHA, and MND should look into existing courses in our education system to modulate and synthesize with AI driven capabilities our ITE, Poly and University pupils to train and to be exposed to new and interdisciplinary knowledge and specialisation from sociology, social services, healthcare, resources planning and facilities management to prepare for an ageing friendly ecosystem of careers and higher level of professional cares.
We should further reinforce and encourage pupils to consider taking up social studies and related careers from on-site & mobile cares systems nursing home caregivers to centre executives and professional managers to social workers. Let's shake off the old mindset of social services workers as one of the dirtiest jobs and shapes it into a diginifying and significant contributors of society! And don't forget to pay competitive wages and promising career paths!
Volunteerism?
When you do a favour to another person, you are willing and you are less likely to be calculative or expecting some sorts of return of favour or reward.
Volunteering comes in multiple ways, giving your time to help others, helping a stranger from a fall, joining a charity to continue contributing to your community and so on. You are an enabler and a valuable resource to your community and your fellow countrymen.
Volunteers are non-salary folks, they do not need any reimbursement of expenses from transport to parking to meals. They do it for free! They may even donate money out of their pockets too.
In order to encourage more people to stand up and stand out of their free time and comfort zones, we owe them some forms of recognition. As such we should classify the time they sacrificed and award individuals and companies from the beginning to the ending of this spirit of volunteerism.
Inclusiveness, Encourage & Empower?
Below is a simple structure of awards to people who help out of free will and importantly, unselfishly and wholeheartedly helping others. In the spirit of reciprocity: we give and we take and we turn around and give more! It is that simple, isn't it?
Volunteers & Private Enterprises Awards:
1st year award, "Good Heart"
5th year award, "Enabler"
10th year award, "Contributor"
15th year award, "Big Heart"
25th year award, "Gold Heart"
30th years and above, "Hero"
- - in progress - -
8/4/24, 7:00 pm - +SL: Don't be first mover invest… maybe
8/4/24, 7:01 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Wait & See.....oh I see!
8/4/24, 7:01 pm - +SL: Too risky as outcome not predictable yet
8/4/24, 7:01 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Think, it's useful for complex issues such as ageing which is full of blind spots!
8/4/24, 7:02 pm - +SL: Gigo…
8/4/24, 7:02 pm - +~l or Smiley face: No rusk, no gain and no foresghts?
8/4/24, 7:02 pm - +SL: Data source maybe contaminated..
8/4/24, 7:02 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Clean it
8/4/24, 7:02 pm - +SL: Wait 1- 2 yrs will see whether is an investment product only
8/4/24, 7:02 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Symmetry and asymmetrical
8/4/24, 7:03 pm - +SL: Not possible it is everywhere
8/4/24, 7:03 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Ok, worthwhile to wait...meantime let's start to structure ours
8/4/24, 7:03 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Stratification
8/4/24, 7:03 pm - +~l or Smiley face: How USVA does theirs...
8/4/24, 7:03 pm - +SL: Beware of tech boom
8/4/24, 7:04 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Bust! like bubble bursting
8/4/24, 7:04 pm - +SL: Filtering and multimode Input is important
8/4/24, 7:04 pm - +~l or Smiley face: There are real talents and valuable data sets around
8/4/24, 7:04 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
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