REACH 490 - What are your views on the move to install CCTVs at all pre-schools? What more can be done to strengthen trust and relationships between pre-schools and parents?
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04 Sep 2023 (10am - 7pm)
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04/09/2023, 10:02 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: Now is this teacher a local born Singaporean?
04/09/2023, 10:03 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: I once upon my son K2 teacher from PAP Sparkletots taught him how to spell 15 π€¦♀️
04/09/2023, 10:03 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: Fiveteen
04/09/2023, 10:03 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: There I very confirm the teacher not from SINGAPORE
04/09/2023, 10:03 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: from phillipines
04/09/2023, 10:05 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: No Singaporean wants to work or PAP not willing to pay or what’s the reason the engaged so many overseas!!!
04/09/2023, 10:05 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: I called up ECDA and MOE…..that’s in 2017
04/09/2023, 10:06 am - +Rama: Mismanagement so panic!
04/09/2023, 10:09 am - +Frankie Wee: Poor child was forced by teacher listen order become abuse
04/09/2023, 10:10 am - +Rama: You cannot implement no use of personal mobile phone only to use when incident happens!
04/09/2023, 10:10 am - +REACH: *π’ Topic π’*
By July 2024, all pre-schools and government-funded early intervention centres will need to install CCTV cameras, the Early Childhood Development Agency (ECDA) announced on 31 Aug.
The agency said the move is part of its regular review of security and safety measures in the early childhood sector, and is not related to the recent incidents.
π¬ *What are your views on the move to install CCTVs at all pre-schools? What more can be done to strengthen trust and relationships between pre-schools and parents?*
Access to CCTV footage will only be granted for the purposes of providing an objective reference point to clarify feedback or to assist the investigation of serious incidents within the pre-school premises.
But beyond such a physical measure, pre-schools need to be open in their communication with parents in order to build trust and good relationships.
π *Open culture is vital*
Assistant Professor Cheung Hoi Shan from the National Institute of Education said: “The leadership in pre-school is fundamental in ensuring better accountability. An important first step is to conduct careful screening of teachers’ qualifications and track record at the point of hiring, regardless of their years of experience in the field.”
A school culture that advocates best practices in early childhood education is vital too, and this can be done by engaging teachers in workshops or trainings, and setting up routine peer observations of classes.
π *Need for safe spaces*
Every pre-school must have a child safe policy, said the Singapore Children’s Society, in response to the recent incidents.
“This includes but is not limited to: a code of conduct; risk assessment and management tools; an incident reporting and whistle-blower policy; a complaint handling and investigation process, among others.”
It added that all staff must be both familiar and competent with these standards and tools, with mandatory training sessions conducted regularly.
“There is also a need to review whistle-blowing policies such that educators feel empowered to raise concerns about misdemeanours that they encounter at the centre level directly to ECDA’s safeguarding team,” said the society.
π *https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parents-call-for-more-transparency-after-cases-of-alleged-abuse-in-pre-school*
π *https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/cctv-cameras-to-be-made-mandatory-in-all-pre-schools-by-july-2024*
π *https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/cctv-preschools-mandatory-july-2024-parents-footage-serious-incidents-kinderland-ecda-3737806*
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04/09/2023, 10:13 am - +Sha.li.ni: It is sad that we have to get this stage of trust building but one case is too many and at this point, it has necessitated the need for CCTVs.
Taking reference from this case, what could have been done better was how the issue was handled by the school. It seems like it was highlighted but nothing was done and when the case was highlighted to the parents, it was angled as cushioning the impact - telling the parents that your child wasn't treated that badly as compared to another child. It's not about how badly the child was treated. The point is the child was treated badly as a matter of fact.
This comes across as a lack of empathy.
First step is to equip managament with empathetic communication skills. If the centre leader is not competent, someone from higher management should do it. It helps to diffuse the situation at the start rather than being dismissive. This comes from personal experience of handling student discipline and having to engage parents of victims and offenders.
Moving away from that incice, parents have to play their part. They can't go in with a preconceived mindset that the school has erred and demand for 'proofs'. This stems from a lack of trust in the system. Damage is done from the incident but it takes time to gain the trust back.
Perhaps changing the mindset about CCTVs as deterrence could work. Why do we have to catch only 'bad' things? Can centres or any other organisations use CCTVs to highlight good acts for eg. Someone offering their seat to those who need it more in the train - screenshot these things and share them. It could catalyse the change in the way we look at CCTVs
04/09/2023, 10:14 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: Lucky there’s phone as this is not the only case can I imagine if there’s no phone then all these will be swept under the carpet
04/09/2023, 10:14 am - +Rama: Sweep under the carpet is the norm with minimum accountability
04/09/2023, 10:16 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: Just like the vaccine injury many were being swept under the carpet. I know various ppl from all walks of life and was extremely disappointed reason being not I dun want to vote for Tharman but we lost “TRUST” in the government
04/09/2023, 10:18 am - +Unknown: Do these preschool principals have to rotate their tenure after certain number of years? Especially if private preschools
This makes the principle take responsible to check and not condone any bad activities
04/09/2023, 10:23 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: How these teacher behave are the reflection of how they had been treated or seen during their young childhood time.
04/09/2023, 10:23 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: It’s the personal behaviour
04/09/2023, 10:23 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: How they managed “stress” just like a baby the only thing they know is cry
04/09/2023, 10:24 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: Where’s adult will show behavioural during stress
04/09/2023, 10:24 am - +Noraini: This message was deleted
04/09/2023, 10:30 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: Again if can come out with a good management guide line then these could be avoided.
A child is a mirror of the parent and hence I am mindful as I used to relive stress by throwing things and swiping off the table and when i saw my 3yrs old grab stuff and throw things I saw myself thank god it wakens me and I hug him and apologise whenever he did that in P1 I seek school counsellor help and here we are good. I am not shame cause I want to create awareness to seek help early.
04/09/2023, 10:30 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: The staff reflects if the principal is good and observant
04/09/2023, 10:32 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: My boy once had a big bump on his head in childcare and cried and after viewing CCTV parents not allowed Haiz they say a x’mas tree hits him well that was in 2015.
04/09/2023, 10:33 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: I was so busy taking care of my bedridden mum, dialysis fil (father Inlaw and mil(mother Inlaw) got breast cancer relapse financially. Physically and mentally stress totally drained out.
04/09/2023, 10:36 am - +Terrie Wong: Agree. I have observed that staff behaviour anywhere takes after management attitude.
- So I believe issues within this pre-school is more deep-seated.
- The whistle-blower or any concientious person who can't stand the toxic atmosphere would leave the place.
04/09/2023, 10:36 am - +Rama: He won so the electorate who are displeased will have to bite the bullet for the next six years!
04/09/2023, 10:36 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: There are plenty of such cases just that I was not reported.
04/09/2023, 10:37 am - +Rama: They should
04/09/2023, 10:37 am - +Rama: Not necessarily
04/09/2023, 10:38 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: Other than childcare there are places like the old age home if everyone recall it was on the news how the elderly was being abused as well and just 3yrs ago I hear the same story from a parent of my PSG group
04/09/2023, 10:38 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: The government should also do similar for the old folks home
04/09/2023, 10:38 am - +Rama: Seems trivial to the authorities!
04/09/2023, 10:39 am - +Rama: So ntuc should run old folks homes!?
04/09/2023, 10:41 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: What I meant was to allow cameras unknow now polyclinic they stop camera also lol
04/09/2023, 10:41 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: Cause if the doctors were caught saying anything wrong or etc WhoM owns the polyclinic will have to answer for it
04/09/2023, 10:42 am - +Rama: Very selective implementation to their advantage!
04/09/2023, 10:43 am - +Rama: All caregivers should have access to common area cctv footage in old folks home
04/09/2023, 10:45 am - +JkL: I recommend to install cctv on all Childcare and elderly care centres..this is nothing news..other countries alreY implement this
04/09/2023, 10:59 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: Another things that upset me was our condo bomb shelter door was not able to closed and ask can pass BCA T.O.P and eventually CSC Haiz….BCA are also getting lenient and yet now HDB are so extremely expensive!!! If you know building surveyor you will know the materials used nowadays are downgraded than before Haiz…..and BCA passing are less strict than before
04/09/2023, 11:15 am - +Rama: The price we now pay for new flats!
04/09/2023, 11:16 am - +~N: Yup, put CCTV everywhere, including HDB corridors, maybe in homes as well, just in case. Increase surveillance so that everybody is protected.
Suggestions:
Review hiring practices so that as much as possible, suitable candidates are hired.
Do a root-cause analysis/incident review of the case.
04/09/2023, 11:17 am - +Rama: All hdb blocks should have cctv in the stairs cases with a access for residents
04/09/2023, 11:21 am - +Rama: Lift not possible due to privacy issues and clothing worn by female
04/09/2023, 11:29 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: There are already various CCTV in lift and staircase of HDB however not all constituencies have it.
04/09/2023, 11:30 am - +Rama: But no access to footage by residents
04/09/2023, 11:31 am - +Singapore Maid Agency: Only SPF
04/09/2023, 11:31 am - +Rama: Yes
04/09/2023, 12:15 pm - +~L: Not sure residents need access to lift cctv footage.. could be an invasion of privacy.
04/09/2023, 12:18 pm - +Rama: Agree but stairs cases cctv can spot drug addicts and underage sexual advances and theft in dwelling escape.
04/09/2023, 12:19 pm - +~L: Yes, hopefully SPF are using new tech to detect these crimes!
04/09/2023, 12:20 pm - +Rama: It will cost residents increase security charges
04/09/2023, 12:32 pm - +Noraini: Not residents' cost. Should be budget of HDB etc
04/09/2023, 12:37 pm - +REACH: Dear contributors,
please be reminded to post content relevant to the topic that is being discussed. We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!
Megan π
04/09/2023, 12:41 pm - +Uncle Law: I support the move to install CCTVs at all pre-schools.
My child suffered injury during his childcare years ago. We requested for CCTV footage to understand the cause of incident, however the principal rejected our request and states that the CCTV are not working.
We made a report to ECDA, they have done their investigation, it was not switched on or not working. We could tell that the injury suffered by our child is likely due to a negligence by their teacher.
End of the day, is the child who suffered at the wrong doing or negligence of the operator.
04/09/2023, 12:59 pm - +Rama: Agree
04/09/2023, 12:59 pm - +YongSeong@Sg: who will have access to those cctv footages?
04/09/2023, 12:59 pm - +YongSeong@Sg: and who will bear those costs?
04/09/2023, 12:59 pm - +Rama: This is a sensitive issue for evaluation
04/09/2023, 12:59 pm - +Rama: π€·♂️
04/09/2023, 1:00 pm - +Rama: Cctv not working is a financial liability!
04/09/2023, 1:54 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
1. It is shocking to see teachers abusing and manhandling helpless young child in their custody.
2. Pre-school teachers as custodian to young pre-schoolers suppose to love the children they take care off and help them to learn and grow in their formative years.
3. The trust that parents handover their children to the pre-school teachers and pre-school - assuming their children will be well look after and in a safe pair of hands - is all the more shocking - when discover that their children are in fact being abuse and manhandled.
This is totally unacceptable.
4. Even a buddy teacher to "check and balance" one another didn't work out - because the Prinicipal that run the school chain - did not treat the ill-treatment report seriously, or simply brush it aside in the hope that such actions will go away or go unnoticed.
This is not one or 2 rouge teachers on the prowl, but senior management irreponsible attitude that embolden rouge teachers to continue their unacceptable conducts - leaving vulnerable children to suffer indefinitely until the abuse blow up when videos capturing the abuse go online.
5. Hence CCTV installation and ensuring the CCTV operate properly become imperative to protect the young children.
I strongly support ECDA's move.
I will also urge teachers to be able to carry their personal handphone with them in the child care centre to record abuses not capture by CCTV to whistleblow - as rouge Prinicipal may attempt to edit or erase CCTV footages or refuse to allow parents to see the CCTV footages - as the footages require the consent of the Principal to be released.
The uncooperative nature and attempt to sweep the abuses under the carpet is evidence in this Kinderland cases - if not for the whistleblower video footages taken by another teacher.
6. Other than CCTV footages, there must be other safeguard put in places such as:-
a. Buddy teacher to peer supervise one another.
b. Principal routine walkabout to check teachers performing their duty wholesomely.
c. Weekly meetings among teachers and Prinicpal to identify any problems in handling the children - and what assistance needed to handle problematic children.
d. Quaterly meet the parent session - to update parents of the children development.
7. It is important to regain the trust of the parents putting their children in pre-school or child care centre - as this is one important means to ensure parents can work in peace - while their young children are well taken care off and learn in pre-schools.
Without the worries that their children are being abused in the pre-school.
8. Most important, ensuring the right teachers are recruited into pre-school is all the more important - that should possess the qualities of being caring, compassionate, resourceful to handle different children needs and emotion, and able to impart positive skills and knowledge to the young children.
9. Hence it is important now to do damage control and regain the trust of the parents - following this unfortunate saga - whereby a few minority black sheep spoil the whole broth.
04/09/2023, 2:00 pm - +Rama: ECDA not firm with checks and balance and not upfront on incidents!
04/09/2023, 2:01 pm - +REACH: *π’ Topic π’*
By July 2024, all pre-schools and government-funded early intervention centres will need to install CCTV cameras, the Early Childhood Development Agency (ECDA) announced on 31 Aug.
The agency said the move is part of its regular review of security and safety measures in the early childhood sector, and is not related to the recent incidents.
π¬ *What are your views on the move to install CCTVs at all pre-schoops? What more can be done to strengthen trust and relationships between pre-schools and parents?*
Access to CCTV footage will only be granted for the purposes of providing an objective reference point to clarify feedback or to assist the investigation of serious incidents within the pre-school premises.
But beyond such a physical measure, pre-schools need to be open in their communication with parents in order to build trust and good relationships.
π *Open culture is vital*
Assistant Professor Cheung Hoi Shan from the National Institute of Education said: “The leadership in pre-school is fundamental in ensuring better accountability. An important first step is to conduct careful screening of teachers’ qualifications and track record at the point of hiring, regardless of their years of experience in the field.”
A school culture that advocates best practices in early childhood education is vital too, and this can be done by engaging teachers in workshops or trainings, and setting up routine peer observations of classes.
π *Need for safe spaces*
Every pre-school must have a child safe policy, said the Singapore Children’s Society, in response to the recent incidents.
“This includes but is not limited to: a code of conduct; risk assessment and management tools; an incident reporting and whistle-blower policy; a complaint handling and investigation process, among others.”
It added that all staff must be both familiar and competent with these standards and tools, with mandatory training sessions conducted regularly.
“There is also a need to review whistle-blowing policies such that educators feel empowered to raise concerns about misdemeanours that they encounter at the centre level directly to ECDA’s safeguarding team,” said the society.
π https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parents-call-for-more-transparency-after-cases-of-alleged-abuse-in-pre-school
π https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/cctv-cameras-to-be-made-mandatory-in-all-pre-schools-by-july-2024
π https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/cctv-preschools-mandatory-july-2024-parents-footage-serious-incidents-kinderland-ecda-3737806
04/09/2023, 2:01 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Not ecda, it is the principal.
Kinderland I believe is a private run pre-school chain. <This message was edited>
04/09/2023, 2:09 pm - +Rama: Regulations authority ultimately responsible for oversight
04/09/2023, 2:10 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
1. Before people start to cry "blue murder" on pre-school teachers for abusing young pre-schoolers, I have also witness grandmothers abusing their grandchild in public in at least 2 occasion.
Case 1
In one case, I saw a grandma taking a tree branch with many dry leaves and sub branches - threatening to beat her grandson dress in kindergarten.
She say why you don't want to walk.
He say something like tired.
She lifted her "cane" and threaten to strike her grandson twice.
The grandson scream before she hit him.
I turn around and stare at her.
An auntie walking towards us also look uneasy but she look down pretend not to see.
The grandma seems to know someone is monitoring her and she didn't whack her grandson.
But they stick around not moving.
As I can't be staying around for too long, I resume my brisk walk - as I didn't see her striking the child.
If she strike her grandson, I will call the police for welding an inappropriate weapon to cause harm.
Case 2
1. In a shopping mall, I emerged from the toilet.
2. From afar, I heard a young child in a pram crying loudly.
3. Before I can size up what happen, I realised that the grandma remove one of her slipper, held it on her hand and wanted to use the slipper to slap across the face of the crying child.
4. Sensing I need to do something quickly before the abuse take place, I shouted across the long corridor to warn her to stop the act.
5. I think she was startled and turn to look at me.
6. I gesture to her to drop her slipper and warn her I will call police if she harm the child.
7. She look sheepish and drop her slipper as I walk towards her, and sensing that she has regretted her action I walk away and occasionally turn back to ensure she did not carry out the abuse.
04/09/2023, 2:11 pm - +Rama: π³π€¦♂️π€·♂️π ππ
04/09/2023, 2:20 pm - +Smiley face: "Young Innocent children are the undemanding victims of physical, verbal and or mental abuses at home in school or violence acts in private or in public! Likewise for the 'normally slower' and the mentally disabled people and how about abuse at the workplace or social media and Internet? Just when the public assumed that the Court will settle these inhumane cases and thereafter, a fair verdict in favor of the victims and punishments handed to the perpetrators and life goes on well; these victims of abuse will remember for life, the torture and torment goes on and on in the victims mind! Is prevention better than cure; is early detection the least painful for the victims? Will heavier punishments lessen the crime of abuse? Are abusers themselves once upon a time victims of abuse too? What are the appropriate social justice for all? Are we living in a highly stressed society whereby the stronger wins the weaker ones and how about those who speak loudest shall tame the rest? Has society blinded not until there is a crime scene?Where is our conscience, dignity and respect for others?"
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04/09/2023, 2:22 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
In all these cases, the child parents don't even know that their child are being abused by their grandparents who suppose to help them to look after their children.
Such incidents run through my mind a few times how to report or handle such cases better.
At the very least, the child parents should be informed....π€ <This message was edited>
04/09/2023, 2:23 pm - +Rama: How effective is our child protection services along with whistle blowers!?
04/09/2023, 2:29 pm - +Smiley face: The means of Abuse is all about CONTROL!
Controlling others or controlling a situation, all these amount to a certain degree of abuse or lacking sane judgement!
04/09/2023, 2:30 pm - +Rama: Repercussions and consequences take a back seat!.?
04/09/2023, 2:30 pm - +Andrew Ang: Spare the cane, spoil the child. It's all about proper parenting and not child abuse. Don't mix up.
04/09/2023, 2:30 pm - +Smiley face: So what is the profile of an abuser?
Possessive by nature?
Love to control it all?
No regards for others feelings or emotions?
Or simply selfish and the SELF over the rest?
04/09/2023, 2:31 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Agree. No amount of CCTV will help if they don't address issues. Why was there whistle blowing? Obviously there were issues not addressed or swept under carpet because of cronies
04/09/2023, 2:31 pm - +Rama: Moving towards western style child upbringing!?
04/09/2023, 2:31 pm - +Smiley face: These are non-vocab to abusing lots!
04/09/2023, 2:32 pm - +Rama: Agree
04/09/2023, 2:32 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Thankful that some have the decency to report for the sake of the children
04/09/2023, 2:32 pm - +Smiley face: Let it go, let them fall and let them stand up ..etc?
04/09/2023, 2:32 pm - +Andrew Ang: By using social media to expose such deeds might not be the right thing to do
04/09/2023, 2:32 pm - +Rama: Some doesn't cut it!
04/09/2023, 2:32 pm - +Smiley face: Civic minded folks with conscience
04/09/2023, 2:32 pm - +Rama: Current trend!
04/09/2023, 2:33 pm - +Smiley face: It can be a mental illness!
04/09/2023, 2:33 pm - +Andrew Ang: Blame it on the management of the child care for not being able to foreseen such circumstances.
04/09/2023, 2:33 pm - +Andrew Ang: A big problem in the future.
04/09/2023, 2:33 pm - +Smiley face: Situational awareness, one enabler against abuse and other blind spots!
04/09/2023, 2:33 pm - +Jimmy Chew: It's the management that needs to be addressed or the owners. Profits and favoritism and convenience. Surprisingly the owners are not taken to task
04/09/2023, 2:34 pm - +Smiley face: Teachers or caregivers?
04/09/2023, 2:34 pm - +Rama: Outcome not carried by sph/mediacorp so public are not updated.
04/09/2023, 2:35 pm - +Rama: Both
04/09/2023, 2:35 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Should have compensation for the child and parents than just 'oh sorry, sorry '
04/09/2023, 2:35 pm - +Smiley face: Public education and public announcements...will it helps?
04/09/2023, 2:35 pm - +Jimmy Chew: I am not sure how many kids have been abused in these kindergarten and other kindergarten
04/09/2023, 2:35 pm - +Rama: Can we Asians raise children without capital punishment!?
04/09/2023, 2:35 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Folks should be trained to the Right thing
04/09/2023, 2:35 pm - +Smiley face: Refund of fees?
04/09/2023, 2:36 pm - +Rama: Help in understanding how the crime was dealt by the courts!
04/09/2023, 2:36 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Nope for trauma
04/09/2023, 2:36 pm - +Smiley face: Try crossing over the mentality of the tiger mum...KS mindsets
04/09/2023, 2:36 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Not all. Assumption
04/09/2023, 2:36 pm - +Rama: Exactly!
04/09/2023, 2:36 pm - +Smiley face: Slaughter a Chicken to teach all monkeys?
04/09/2023, 2:37 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Tiger teachers ?
04/09/2023, 2:38 pm - +Rama: Public humiliation has its perks!
04/09/2023, 2:38 pm - +Smiley face: the brave and courageous shall win ! (ηθ·―ηΈι’εθ θ！εΊθͺ《ε»ι’θΊηΈε¦εδΌ 》)
the intelligence person shall win!
(εθ ηΈι’ζΊθ θ!)
04/09/2023, 2:39 pm - +Smiley face: Old ways and always worked?
04/09/2023, 2:39 pm - +Rama: Mostly
04/09/2023, 2:39 pm - +Jimmy Chew: CCTV is after abuse. Do they monitor every day. Hahaha bouncers told me they whack drunkards at blind spots
04/09/2023, 2:40 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Seriously do management check CCTV s
04/09/2023, 2:40 pm - +Smiley face: Sekali, CCTV not working or the harddisk wiped off!
04/09/2023, 2:41 pm - +Rama: Trick of the trade!
04/09/2023, 2:41 pm - +Jimmy Chew: The intelligence will win because they are smart at reframing. Like we have contacted the parents and parents said they didn't hahaha..PR on overdrive
04/09/2023, 2:41 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Own self check own self hahahaha
04/09/2023, 2:42 pm - +Smiley face: Circumventing to avoid conviction aka acting blur!
04/09/2023, 2:42 pm - +Smiley face: Motto!
04/09/2023, 2:42 pm - +Rama: Currently our present government
04/09/2023, 2:43 pm - +Jimmy Chew: I think the kindergarten should be closed maybe abuse and hidings have been the norm
04/09/2023, 2:43 pm - +Rama: Possibly π€·♂️
04/09/2023, 2:44 pm - +Smiley face: Talk to your child or children, they are the best and the last line of defence!
Innocent children don't tell lies unless..
Having a strong bonding is a MUST for a family to coexist meaningfully, for lifetime sake!
04/09/2023, 2:44 pm - +Smiley face: Family Compact!
04/09/2023, 2:46 pm - +Rama: Yes
04/09/2023, 2:47 pm - +Jimmy Chew: It could be systemic
04/09/2023, 2:48 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Yes. The only problem is the family working to survive π
04/09/2023, 2:48 pm - +Jimmy Chew: That's why child care
04/09/2023, 2:48 pm - +Rama: True
04/09/2023, 2:49 pm - +Smiley face: Find quality time to engage and to build many ways of communication within a family compact!
04/09/2023, 2:50 pm - +Smiley face: 1st Happiness, letting others take care of your children!
04/09/2023, 2:51 pm - +Smiley face: That's life in SG!
Find ways to 'ring fence' your valuable assets, aka your child till they grow up to 12 years and above!
04/09/2023, 2:52 pm - +Smiley face: Let parents decide which kindergarten they chose!
Is our MOE run kindergarten safer?
Are there CCTV and structure and protocols placed against such unfortunate crimes of abuse?
04/09/2023, 2:53 pm - +Smiley face: If one cannot check oneself, then no point checking others?
04/09/2023, 2:55 pm - +Smiley face: Are teachers under tremendous stress both at school or at home or both? Fatigue?
Where are the early warning systems?
04/09/2023, 2:57 pm - +Smiley face: One early sign is ATTITUDE of an individual?
Lacking energy, late for work, verbal behavior, social or anti social with colleagues and fip flop dressing!
04/09/2023, 2:59 pm - +Smiley face: We are looking for signs of Aggression, easily Anguish , Anxiety prone and impatience. The
Any of the above traits are potential abusers in the making or abusers at large in waiting to explode!
04/09/2023, 2:59 pm - +Smiley face: The opposite of all these undesirable traits is PATIENCE, SIMPLE and COMPASSION!
04/09/2023, 3:00 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
My close friend comments:-
But I have a serious concern on installation of more CCTVs. Children bathe in the child care centres, need changing.
And the CCTVs are going to capture them undressing. I can't imagine if the footages fallen into wrong hands.
My comments:-
Hmm...
I think those in the bathroom, or children undressing are not monitored by CCTV.
My close friend comments:-
Hard to say. Some well equipped childcare center - Yes, they have very spacious bathrooms.
But certainly not those retrofitted from land properties - whereby one CCTV will have a full view (including bathrooms or spots whereby children undress).
04/09/2023, 3:01 pm - +Smiley face: The more complex a human innate psychology is the more it will implode into many uncontrollable situations from argument to assaulting others!
It's about CONTROL!
Sounds like the animal kingdom!
04/09/2023, 3:02 pm - +Jimmy Chew: No one knows Stalin is these atrocious
04/09/2023, 3:03 pm - +Smiley face: When a person is in the mood of controlling, he or she will find ways and blindspots to act up the mighty SELF! Out of Control!
So what is CCTV for?
If there is a will, there will be ways...?
04/09/2023, 3:03 pm - +Jimmy Chew: When leadership choose to be blind, bad things happened. Follow lah
04/09/2023, 3:03 pm - +Smiley face: Not until over 26 million killed! That really stalled the world!
04/09/2023, 3:04 pm - +Smiley face: Leadership matters most in any organisation or Same.
04/09/2023, 3:04 pm - +Jimmy Chew: It's the animal kingdom. The lions and lionesses ignore what they hyenas does. See Lion King π
04/09/2023, 3:04 pm - +Jimmy Chew: <Media omitted>
04/09/2023, 3:05 pm - +Smiley face: Don't discount the Monkeys and elephants in the thick forest of blind!
04/09/2023, 3:05 pm - +Rama: Checking ownself can hide things
04/09/2023, 3:06 pm - +Smiley face: Agar agar...
04/09/2023, 3:06 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Anyway I think the whistles blowing should be done at MOE levels Rather than at the kindergarten. Like safety violations reporting to MOM
04/09/2023, 3:07 pm - +Rama: At ground level
04/09/2023, 3:07 pm - +Smiley face: Even underground just to catch the abuser!
04/09/2023, 3:08 pm - +Rama: Whatever it takes to deal with the pepertrator
04/09/2023, 3:09 pm - +Jimmy Chew: I remembered my working days in HR. One hr officer in charge of whistle blowing indicated verbally that this whistle blower person is a always complaining and we discussed other whistle blowing reports casually. So we're not that professional πππ
04/09/2023, 3:09 pm - +Smiley face: Ok...one hot essay aka datang, pls critic each scenario!
04/09/2023, 3:10 pm - +Smiley face: 4 September, 2023
"The opposite of abuse is dignity and respect others!"
- - anonymity
Types of Abuse?
Verbal
Physical or sexual
Mental
Social media or Internet
How to define the degree of severity of an abused case?
Scenarios:
1) When a parent reprimands the child on bad behaviors or less ideal school works, does it means abuse especially when shouting or scolding or canning happened?
2) When a teacher speaks loudly or shouts at the class or a group of students or a student, the tone and choice of words matter in this case of verbal abuse or just a normal day in a school settings?
3) How about a superior tells the subordinate over mistakes at work or the performance of a staff that was conducted in a rude or ruthless manner, or colleague to colleague, does it equals to abuse?
How will the social justice acts and its positions on any of the above scenario?
- - in progress - -
04/09/2023, 3:11 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Haha pouring water in a child who is told to sleep horizontally is bad
04/09/2023, 3:11 pm - +Smiley face: That's a criminal act!
04/09/2023, 3:11 pm - +Jimmy Chew: My friend's nephew was told to lie in his data presentation by his boss.
04/09/2023, 3:11 pm - +Jimmy Chew: We knows abuse When we see it happens
04/09/2023, 3:12 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Unless we're been abused in kindergarten hahahaha
04/09/2023, 3:12 pm - +Rama: Nothing new!
04/09/2023, 3:12 pm - +Smiley face: Once upon a time being abused and later on in life, getting even on others...!
04/09/2023, 3:13 pm - +Rama: Molest cases
04/09/2023, 3:14 pm - +Jimmy Chew: If the video didn't appear we won't know. That scares me. Now because they don't have personal phones. It will never appear
04/09/2023, 3:15 pm - +Rama: π€¦♂️π πππ€·♂️
04/09/2023, 3:15 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Sounds like an authoritarian State dressing as privacy
04/09/2023, 3:15 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Russian state propaganda
04/09/2023, 3:16 pm - +Jimmy Chew: All good men and women need to stand up and be good
04/09/2023, 3:17 pm - +Jimmy Chew: https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/resistance-responses-collaboration/non-conformity/refusal-to-salute/
04/09/2023, 3:17 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Credit to the whistle blower for doing the right thing
04/09/2023, 3:21 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Can't imagine how may kids are scared by that teacher and the kindergarten system
04/09/2023, 3:22 pm - +Rama: Hope it leads to prosecution and jail time!
04/09/2023, 3:51 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Maybe they should do like the safety violations in the company. Those who are complacent should go to jail for not doing their due diligence
04/09/2023, 3:52 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Death of the innocence of a child and how many has gone through the kindergarten..I am deeply grieved. The future generations damaged for life π
04/09/2023, 3:53 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Are they complicit?
04/09/2023, 3:53 pm - +Rama: π πππ€¦♂️
04/09/2023, 3:54 pm - +Rama: So, no excuses cctv not working and personal mobile phone allowed during classroom sessions for added proof and security!
04/09/2023, 4:00 pm - +REACH: *π’ Topic π’*
By July 2024, all pre-schools and government-funded early intervention centres will need to install CCTV cameras, the Early Childhood Development Agency (ECDA) announced on 31 Aug.
The agency said the move is part of its regular review of security and safety measures in the early childhood sector, and is not related to the recent incidents.
π¬ *What are your views on the move to install CCTVs at all pre-schoops? What more can be done to strengthen trust and relationships between pre-schools and parents?*
Access to CCTV footage will only be granted for the purposes of providing an objective reference point to clarify feedback or to assist the investigation of serious incidents within the pre-school premises.
But beyond such a physical measure, pre-schools need to be open in their communication with parents in order to build trust and good relationships.
π *Open culture is vital*
Assistant Professor Cheung Hoi Shan from the National Institute of Education said: “The leadership in pre-school is fundamental in ensuring better accountability. An important first step is to conduct careful screening of teachers’ qualifications and track record at the point of hiring, regardless of their years of experience in the field.”
A school culture that advocates best practices in early childhood education is vital too, and this can be done by engaging teachers in workshops or trainings, and setting up routine peer observations of classes.
π *Need for safe spaces*
Every pre-school must have a child safe policy, said the Singapore Children’s Society, in response to the recent incidents.
“This includes but is not limited to: a code of conduct; risk assessment and management tools; an incident reporting and whistle-blower policy; a complaint handling and investigation process, among others.”
It added that all staff must be both familiar and competent with these standards and tools, with mandatory training sessions conducted regularly.
“There is also a need to review whistle-blowing policies such that educators feel empowered to raise concerns about misdemeanours that they encounter at the centre level directly to ECDA’s safeguarding team,” said the society.
π https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parents-call-for-more-transparency-after-cases-of-alleged-abuse-in-pre-school
π https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/cctv-cameras-to-be-made-mandatory-in-all-pre-schools-by-july-2024
π https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/cctv-preschools-mandatory-july-2024-parents-footage-serious-incidents-kinderland-ecda-3737806
04/09/2023, 4:13 pm - +Jimmy Chew: https://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/kinderland-management-seems-insincere-after-tense-meeting
04/09/2023, 4:13 pm - +Jimmy Chew: It's systemic
04/09/2023, 4:13 pm - +Rama: Cover up at its best and indifferent!?
04/09/2023, 4:53 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Yeah. Maybe prevalent that's why ban personal handphones? π
04/09/2023, 4:53 pm - +Jimmy Chew: They don't know what they don't know..
04/09/2023, 4:53 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Hitting kids with ruler is a no no
04/09/2023, 4:54 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Maybe they captured More irregularities hahaha
04/09/2023, 4:56 pm - +Frankie Wee: Naught is naught when did teacher told many times and stable born or betraying children. <This message was edited>
04/09/2023, 4:56 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Poor new principal. Maybe the old principal is being protected. Like some old CEO replaced because not to ruin their reputation
04/09/2023, 4:56 pm - +Frankie Wee: Teacher need to encourage and patience with child learning.
04/09/2023, 4:57 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Maybe these old teachers don't know. Queen of the class
04/09/2023, 4:58 pm - +Jimmy Chew: I feel for the parents, no available child care centers to transfer their kids <This message was edited>
04/09/2023, 4:58 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://www.niec.edu.sg/get-started/mid-careerists/
04/09/2023, 4:59 pm - +Frankie Wee: Need a certificate or diploma join childcare
04/09/2023, 4:59 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Yeah
04/09/2023, 5:00 pm - +Frankie Wee: Maybe she is not qualified to joined this job
04/09/2023, 5:01 pm - +Rama: Keep silent and hope issue dies down!?
04/09/2023, 5:01 pm - +Rama: Agree
04/09/2023, 5:02 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Yeah. Standard PR tactic. Say less let it die
04/09/2023, 5:03 pm - +Rama: Just like our government!
04/09/2023, 5:05 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Need to raise Old stories if some bad actors get presented hahahaha
04/09/2023, 5:06 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
1. Should mandate that all abuse case - even once, must be reported to ecda.
2. Failure to do so will have repercussions on the license issue to pre-school and principals will be held responsible.
04/09/2023, 5:10 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Agree. Like reporting near misses to authorities
04/09/2023, 5:11 pm - +Rama: Yes
04/09/2023, 5:14 pm - +Rama: Confirm cases must be highlighted in print media and free to air channels.
04/09/2023, 5:56 pm - +Smiley face: ECDA acknowledges lapse in handling of Kinderland Woodlands Mart case, is reviewing its procedures
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ecda-acknowledges-lapse-in-handling-of-kinderland-woodlands-mart-case-is-reviewing-its-procedures
04/09/2023, 6:00 pm - +REACH: *π’ Topic π’*
By July 2024, all pre-schools and government-funded early intervention centres will need to install CCTV cameras, the Early Childhood Development Agency (ECDA) announced on 31 Aug.
The agency said the move is part of its regular review of security and safety measures in the early childhood sector, and is not related to the recent incidents.
π¬ *What are your views on the move to install CCTVs at all pre-schoops? What more can be done to strengthen trust and relationships between pre-schools and parents?*
Access to CCTV footage will only be granted for the purposes of providing an objective reference point to clarify feedback or to assist the investigation of serious incidents within the pre-school premises.
But beyond such a physical measure, pre-schools need to be open in their communication with parents in order to build trust and good relationships.
π *Open culture is vital*
Assistant Professor Cheung Hoi Shan from the National Institute of Education said: “The leadership in pre-school is fundamental in ensuring better accountability. An important first step is to conduct careful screening of teachers’ qualifications and track record at the point of hiring, regardless of their years of experience in the field.”
A school culture that advocates best practices in early childhood education is vital too, and this can be done by engaging teachers in workshops or trainings, and setting up routine peer observations of classes.
π *Need for safe spaces*
Every pre-school must have a child safe policy, said the Singapore Children’s Society, in response to the recent incidents.
“This includes but is not limited to: a code of conduct; risk assessment and management tools; an incident reporting and whistle-blower policy; a complaint handling and investigation process, among others.”
It added that all staff must be both familiar and competent with these standards and tools, with mandatory training sessions conducted regularly.
“There is also a need to review whistle-blowing policies such that educators feel empowered to raise concerns about misdemeanours that they encounter at the centre level directly to ECDA’s safeguarding team,” said the society.
π * https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parents-call-for-more-transparency-after-cases-of-alleged-abuse-in-pre-school *
π * https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/cctv-cameras-to-be-made-mandatory-in-all-pre-schools-by-july-2024 *
π * https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/cctv-preschools-mandatory-july-2024-parents-footage-serious-incidents-kinderland-ecda-3737806 *
04/09/2023, 6:01 pm - +Smiley face: In a few final words, it is about moral reasonings, integrity, decision-making and leadership; the social justice for equal treatment of rights and protecting the weak and the innocent from the aggressors...
04/09/2023, 6:02 pm - +REACH: ππΌ *ECDA acknowledges lapse in handling of Kinderland Woodlands Mart case, is reviewing its procedures*
More: https://str.sg/iTZ3
04/09/2023, 6:07 pm - +Rama: Lapse of protocol to remove teacher is a joke!?
04/09/2023, 6:24 pm - +Umar M: Unacceptable
04/09/2023, 6:24 pm - +Umar M: We must protect our children at all costs.
04/09/2023, 6:24 pm - +Umar M: Such a simple fine and slap on the wrist does nothing to deter or prevent future incidents. Too often this has happened.
04/09/2023, 6:25 pm - +Rama: They screwed up and don't give a dammed!
04/09/2023, 6:25 pm - +Rama: Ownself check ownself!
04/09/2023, 6:25 pm - +Umar M: Imagine if an adult held down another adult then poured water into their throats forcefully day after day. What would the punishment be?
04/09/2023, 6:26 pm - +Umar M: Or if an adult belted up another adult to a chair and prevented them from moving.
04/09/2023, 6:26 pm - +Rama: PR style is to keep mum!
04/09/2023, 6:26 pm - +Rama: π€·♂️
04/09/2023, 6:26 pm - +Umar M: Ludicrous
04/09/2023, 6:27 pm - +Rama: My sentiments exactly!
04/09/2023, 6:42 pm - +65 9387 0282: Did you all even read the article before commenting?
04/09/2023, 6:46 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
⏰ We will be closing the chat in *15 minutes* ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan π
04/09/2023, 6:58 pm - +Smiley face: 4 September, 2023
"Inhumane Behaviors"
"Young Innocent children are the undemanding victims of physical, verbal and or mental abuses at home in school or violence acts in private or in public! Likewise for the 'normally slower' and the mentally disabled people and how about abuse at the workplace or social media and Internet? Just when the public assumed that the Court will settle these inhumane cases and thereafter, a fair verdict in favor of the victims and punishments handed to the perpetrators and life goes on well; these victims of abuse will remember for life, the torture and torment goes on and on in the victims mind! Is prevention better than cure; is early detection the least painful for the victims? Will heavier punishments lessen the crime of abuse? Are abusers themselves once upon a time victims of abuse too? What are the appropriate social justice for all? Are we living in a highly stressed society whereby the stronger wins the weaker ones and how about those who speak loudest shall tame the rest? Has society blinded not until there is a crime scene?Where is our conscience, dignity and respect for others?"
- - anonymity
Additional Punishments?
Abuse, it can escalate into an issue of life or death.
For first time and repeat offenders of child, spouse abuse or human (to include physical and sexual) especially victim is a woman and or child of age 16 years and below with harsher sentences for abusing young children age 12 and below, and people with partial or full mental disabilities.
All abuses, if causing permanent or partial disabilities to the victim(s) or temporary or permanent mental trauma or causing hospitalisation and lifelong or life threatening medical issues (including all known sexually transmitted diseases and mental well-being) of over seven days or loss of human abilities such as to freely move hand or leg, to listen, to speak clearly, or to see; shall receive caning as a deterrent punishment and a firm message to all potential offenders at large: Do not abuse! (δΈζεθ‘)
In a few final words, is about moral reasonings, integrity, decision-making and leadership; the social justice for equal treatment of rights and protecting the weak and the innocent from the aggressors.
- - in progress - -
04/09/2023, 6:59 pm - +Rama: πππ€·♂️π€¦♂️
04/09/2023, 6:59 pm - +Smiley face: Don't despair, there's hope!
04/09/2023, 7:00 pm - +Rama: If only!
04/09/2023, 7:00 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan π
04/09/2023, 7:00 pm - ~ REACH Singapore changed this group's settings to allow only admins to send messages to this group
04/09/2023, 7:04 pm - +REACH: <Media omitted>
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