Sunday, February 3, 2019

Singaporean Chinese identity unique but will keep on evolving: PM Lee
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/pm-lee-singaporean-chinese-identity-unique-but-evolving-11200478

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Ricky Lim
As immigrants come from the various Countries of Origin - eg. China, India, Eurasia, ASEAN etc - once they turn citizens in Singapore - we are all Singaporeans - with Singaporean's identity though with the respective Heritage roots.

Once Singaporeans. we are self-ruled --- but still maintain an implicit ties with the Countries of Origin.

But at all time, Singaporeans must 1st and foremost, put Singapore Sovereignty, National Interests, National Identity and National Survival - as our 1st and most important priority 
- because Singapore is the place where we live, we stay, we work, we rest, we play and we bring up our descendants.

And the well-beings of Singapore - will directly impact our well-being and our descendant's well beings.
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Ricky Lim
The various Heritage roots by maintaining implicit ties with their Countries of Origin - can help to promote business link, people-to-people link etc - and facilitate mutual benefits and win-win outcome for Singapore and the respective Countries of Origin.

Such heritage roots and implicit links - will help to promote peace and prosperity with Singapore and the various Countries of Origin - as we have more in-depth understanding of each cultural roots.
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Ricky Lim
This message need to be reinforced every year - as new immigrants are converted to become Singaporeans - to make up for the shortfall in child birth.
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Ricky Lim
Ricky Lim
It is thus important to preserve every single aspect of our Heritage Roots that define Singapore.

For eg. the Oxley House need to be preserve - as it defines the development and existence of modern Singapore - the birthplace of Governance that build modern Singapore.
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Oxley House is the Nexus ---- that unite all cultural ties of immigrants in Singapore together - and build the current modern Singapore.
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Jasveer Jurrah
Ha ha ha ha
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Justin Lee
Evolving from Orang Cina Bukan Cina to Banana. Lol...

"Auto lock ???"

Is it because I am a Chinese?

Ha..ha...
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Ah Lauz
Sasrika, Acha Hey, Baboo-ji

As per quoted: Singaporean Chinese identity unique but will keep on evolving (obviously changing), to Singaporean Chinese-"FT-Mixed" due to cross-marriage and converts (to cover up for their mistakes for importing too many of such from "many countries" AND now trying to give to those borned before 1949 but converted to SG before 1996 some post-PG perks) ....... and for whatever reasons also failed to mention Tangxi village (just vagely covered as Canton, even refused to acknowledge as GuangZhou) ........ that was where his great-great came from. LOL

"The new arrivals will enrich our cultural heritage with their different life experiences and perspectives" - with 5000 years of (phleghm spitting) culture and (loud talking) heritage / habits. LOL

The local Peranakans already surrendered to the fate of being called OCBC - Orang Cinas Bukan Cinas. LOL
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Wan Wan
Reading half way, went to Zzzzzzzzzzz!
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Peter Han
Because this guy mostly states the obvious; me too Zzzzzzzzz even before finishing the headlines!
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Sundar Kannan
Lol! I mean he could be a stand up comedian cmon give him a break
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Paladin Nicholas Lawrence
Hmmm . . . I wonder if you would still be posting this if he had been talking about Singaporean Indian identity.

Guess not.
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Masa Soh Mengming
Paladin Nicholas Lawrence Alright. Some Chinese locals like me have a good impression of China. We defend China. Then some Indians upon reading this tell us to balik Cina!

When we criticise India, the same people take offence on behalf of India! Double standards much?
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Lawrence Seow
Chinese identity? Some say Peranakan isn't Chinese but an entirely different race. LOL
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Masa Soh Mengming
Just stupid. It is clear that he is suggesting that our Chinese culture has nothing to do with China!

Just like how some Peranakans think they are not Chinese!
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Christopher Goh
China shld stop thinking Spore Chinese are same as China chinese. Guilt tripping spore wont help your china cause.
Spore Chinese are Singaporeans. Period.
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Raneir Fohnob
Who foots the bill for fireworks
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黄柏安
From banana man to mangosteen man
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Adrian See
Are we not proud of our own Singaporean Chinese identity that we hope it "evolves" into something else? Evolution can go both ways, beneficial or harmful.
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Masa Soh Mengming
That may be so, but if people suggest that Chinese culture here has nothing to do with China, well tell that to my born in China grandmother!
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Francis Ong
Why is he playing the racial card? In Singapore, we celebrate our festive holiday together regardless of what holiday is it. LHL and his gang is the one the bring in people from India, China, philipines etc and create all the tension. What is he talking about Chinese identity? In the original Singapore that I know of, there is no Chinese identity, everyone of use are Singaporean. Now, we are divided into different class.
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Raneir Fohnob
Chinese identity evolving to Ang Moh. See howany ise western names for no reason. Lol
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Paul Tan
“Chinese” 华族 is collect name describing 华夏 descendant, basically mean the people originated from China. This include races like Northern Han Chinese people, Japanese, Koreans and many others. Also southern Han Chinese people share more genetic similarities with Vietnamese.
So strictly speaking say "Chinese" is a race is not accurate.
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Dave Lim
Han chinese is han chinese in itself. Vietnamese similarity to chinese is due to mixed blood given its history and close proximity with China & SEA nations.
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Tan Kwong Moh
Hahaha.......How about Dr Tan and Mr LHY having breakfast at Teck Ghee.....(AMK Ave 10)
Not fake news, only no report on CNA.......
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Gerrard Villa
Did you have your Reunion dinner with your brother and sister? How long No eat together???? You still want to ask Singaporean to keep its Chinese tradition while you ignore family values.
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Ong Khong Mhning
A few Chinese Singaporeans have lost their Chinese identity when they choose to marry people of other races. They do it in the name of 'love' and non-racial discrimination but in so doing they have in fact diluted the Chinese culture within their own families and the Chinese community as a whole. Love is very fragile but cultural identity must remain intact if it is to make people 'beautiful' and proud.
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Jasveer Jurrah
Beautiful.... Ha ha ha ha ha .....
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Eddie Lim
chinese most capable, most diligent...is in our dna... cant help it :)
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Richard Kam
That is why Singapore refuse to give Chinese New Year Eve off for School children saying that CNY Reunion Dinnner is not important.
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Swee Meng Ling
Every household also has each own unique characteristics. So?
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Dave Tan
Unique meh?? Thought Singapore India more unique? As can become Malay!
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Foong Mun Loh
Ng Eng Hen is best proof of that evolution......he looks like an Orang Utan liao
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Mac Lee
you disappeared when the nation want you to comment on the malaysian's boat incursion, death of Aloysius Pang. utterly useless.
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Michael Morgan
He must be in Disneyland.
He may be is in Disneyland
He is in Disneyland.
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Norah Arc
You are not and cannot par with chinese neither par with the west and will always be judged beneath them in languages and even in competence. An inferiority cultural
complex, and complexities, which you have to be constantly defended and this passed on to every generation.
Such a breed has nothing to give of themselves on a personal level except... What does the law, in spirit, says? (most vocal on this subject)
You end up being a repressed society and how can anyone relate to that?
But you are made rich(an obsession with the covetous), or rich enough to have need of nothing and so death is a lonely experience.
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Ah Lauz
Singaporean Chinese identity unique but will keep on evolving, to Singaporean Chinese Mixed....... and for whatever reasons never mentioned Tangxi........
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Pengchuen Leong
To all Singaporeans
And friends , wishing all a Happy lunar New year and good health and happiness .
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Singh Prem
With respect, do not share his historical account of the Chinese from early Singapore time. Too simplistic and not entirely true in several parts. Present day influx of Chinese, from China, has not created integration with our Chinese whom we are familiar with....and definitely not with other races.
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Dave Lim
People develop according to their evironment. Every provinces in China have their specific heritage and practises not one is the same, even between villages there are some unique differences. So what if there are some difference here, important point is essentially its the same. Please don’t try to carve out something just bcos of poilitical need.
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George Lim
What about evolving Malays, Indians and Eurasians?
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Chua Lee Kheng
Those Chinese in Sgp who have fond memories of China are already on the way to the heavens, leaving their descendants behind. The Singaporean culture that many of their descendents experienced are mostly a mix of western and eastern cultural practices. It is not easy for outsiders to understand our Singaporean culture, some of which is the love of many kind of food. One of the catayst for the development of Singaporean culture is the introduction of the English language into the mainstream eastern communities which open up a new and free world; the West, like the Western food in Sgp hawker culture.
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James Liew
Is this message even necessary? I am Chinese growing up in the early sixties and I learn our history conscientiously! Seems to me it is simply stating the obvious. In his CNY message, the PM should focus on other more important bread and butter issues e.g. the ever-rising costs of living.
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In search of the real Singapore stories, beyond Raffles

As the bicentennial commemorations begin, questions are being asked on what Singaporeans know about their roots and how they look upon the past and their identity.
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/cnainsider/search-real-singapore-story-beyond-stamford-raffles-bicentennial-11199116
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Ricky Lim
Before the old hat at the north claim that Singapore is part of Malaysia or its past is related to Malay King ---- we have to look beyond our history with Malaysia and Raffles --- that go beyond 700 years ago - that comprise of China heritage root, India heritage root and Eurasia heritage root - in addition to our Malay heritage root.

The relics dug out by archaeologists - have proven that our history 700 years ago - are make up of China origin, India origin, Eurasia origin and Malay origin - as evident in the relics that are dug out like chinese ceramics, chinese ancient coins etc ....

This is important because it has now proven that Singapore is not link only to Malaysia and UK but in the earlier years to China, India and Eurasia.

This means that if the old hat up north bully us - not only we have Bigger God-Father UK to back us up.

We have stronger muscle like China, India and Eurasia - to back us up.
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Ricky Lim
This credit go to our PM Lee who strategise by exploiting Singapore Bicentennial celebration to pull in China, India and Eurasian presence 700 years ago beyond Malaysia and UK Raffles presence.

Now the old hat can only "LL".
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Ricky Lim
To summarise, our cultural roots are not only link to Malaysia and UK, but also to bigger Countries like :-
(1) China
(2) India
(3) Eurasia.
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Ricky Lim
In 1368, Zhu Yuanzhang defeated the Mongol Yuan and reunited China. By 1405, which was a mere 37 years after the founding of Ming, Zheng He’s great fleet sailed to the Western Ocean and arrived on our shores. Singapore was an important navigation point for the Ming voyages. Ma Huan’s Longyamen (龙牙门) most probably referred to Tanjong Belayar. That Ming China, within a few decades, was able to generate the economic surplus and assemble the talent and capabilities to set sail so many ships over enormous distances, showed how productive the Chinese economy is once the country is united and organized.
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Ricky Lim
When the per capita income of China reaches half that of the US, China’s GDP will be twice that of the US. (This will be US$38 trillion)

When it reaches 2/3, China’s GDP will be roughly that of the US, EU and Japan combined.(This will be US$45 trillion)
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Ricky Lim
China’s population will peak at 1.44b in 2030 by which time India’s population will be larger.
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Ricky Lim
It is thus important to preserve every single aspect of our Heritage Roots that define Singapore.

For eg. the Oxley House need to be preserve - as it defines the development and existence of modern Singapore - the birthplace of Governance that build modern Singapore.
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Patrick Choe
What is the relevance of History before 1819? I think absolutely no relevance to our present and our future. Move on.
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Masa Soh Mengming
Imagine 200 years later, your descendants will say what is the significance of 1959, 1963 and 1965? Not relevant! This is 2219! Move on!

A people who don't know their history will cease to be a people I can tell you that. Just look at Taiwan glorifying their former Japanese masters. Even if it attained independence, they will fail in establishing a Taiwan identity.
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Joseph Lim
Really... In SG, we have no power to say much in which building stays and which one goes.. My childhood place. Outram Park HDB flats opposite SGH got demolished. And it's now just a empty land. What a waste!!!
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Eddie Lim
still, it was british empire colonisation then that hugely transformed singapore and influenced singapore settlers that led to what we have today and who we are today. i strongly believe its God's will that the whole world shall eventually use a common language ie English!
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Jm Chow
Who founded Singapore ?
We learned from English histroy books,...Sir Standford Raffles founded Singapore in 1819.

Is this a historical fact? NO.

According to the Chinese, (who came to Singapore as sea faring merchants) who brough silk, ivory chop sticks and fine porcelain to bater trade for spices..along the 'Flavor Road'... in communities....Singapore existed long before 1819...
As early as the 780, a thousand years before Raffles, Buddhist monk Jian Zhen, geographer Jia Dan stopped over in Singapore (known by a Chinese name ) and traded with locals living in thriving communities at the Southern tip of Penensula Malaya.

I am sure...the Indians who came from Southern India...came to Singapore long before Raffles, who spread Hindu teaching in the Hindu kingdom in these islands ....had a different story to tell about Singapore.

The first people who came to this island...must be the orang Laut (the fishermen). Chinese merchants recorded trading with them in silver pieces...for pearls and for fresh sea food.
The Orang Luat too must have their own version of the history of Singapore.

Now..archaeological dig in recent times...confirm that Singapore was a thriving trading community long before Raffles.

The British claim that Raffles founded Singapore in 1819 is factually WRONG.
We must not confuse our children with the British falsehood.

Present day Singapore was born in 1965. ... This island was founded by nameless people...long, long ago.
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Foong Mun Loh
cannot be lah.......LKY told Total oil company execs that S'pore was a >>BARREN LAND<< before independence mah......perhaps S'pore was overrun by dinosaurs even !
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Singapore Grammar
Citation needed.
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NG Phillip
Dear Josephine Teo, MOM, -There are many of us from the Merdeka Generation who had loose jobs to foreigners not because. we are not qualified but because of the MOM policy of issuing work permits too easily to foreign talent. Our contribution to build up the Nation over the years , in return we had been shortchanged and our appeals falling on deaf ears and blind eyes year after year. Is that the true loving care been shown to the Merdeka Generation? We are not asking for handout from Government, but allow us to walk with our heads up and holding a proper job that we are trained in for so many years,$$ to fill our stomach and pay the $$$ bills ON TIME.
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Kenneth Avan
An insidious attempt to rewrite history. My guess is that the new narrative will be British colonialism bad, PAP saviors.
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Masa Soh Mengming
Well, my family lived without much electricity and sanitation when the British left. Compare then and now.

Say what you want about the PAP but at least delivered what the British couldn't or wouldn't.
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Jm Chow
Colonialism is BAD.
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Sam Lee
Research shld start from which history book or physical evidence narrates about the man and woman which gave birth to human race and which place as we all have common interlinked DNA unless you believe in Charles Darwin that humans evolved from water microbes then amphibians then monkeys to homo sapiens or peking man or neanderthal etc.

Alphabet starts from A and number starts from 0 or 1 ? How can one understand a book or life if he / she does not start from 1st chapter or calculate without the basics.

Merry and Happy Chinese New Year.
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Mohammad Ismail
There were actually more interesting stories occurred which history never mentioned. Story about Hang Nadim, a smart young boy who gave the idea to the Sultan on how to thwart the swordfish attacks by using banana tree stems but was victimised, Si Tanggang the poor kampung lad who became a foreign prince who disowned his mother etc were some of the past incidents which have never been highlighted.
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Eddie Lim
still, it was british empire colonisation then that hugely transformed singapore and influenced singapore settlers that led to what we have today and who we are today. i strongly believe its God's will that the whole world shall eventually use a common language ie English!
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Ali Gandh
Founder of singapura is and Indian prince Sang Nila utama not Raffles
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