REACH 400 - What are your views on Singapore's stance on drugs consumption such cannabis, and those who consume them overseas?
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03 Oct 2022 (10am - 7pm)
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[10:00 am, 03/10/2022] +REACH: 📢 Topic📢
Singapore has long been known for its zero-tolerance policy towards substance abuse. However, in light of recent events, most notably a series of occurrences where national athletes were found to have taken cannabis overseas, questions have been raised about Singapore’s stance on cannabis.
At a Singapore Anti-Narcotics Association conference on 29 Sept, Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam reiterated the government’s stance on cannabis and that the government bases its policies on evidence and science, which clearly shows cannabis use is harmful.
💬 What are your views on Singapore's stance on drugs consumption such cannabis, and those who consume them overseas?
Yet, according to a recent survey commissioned by the Sunday Times, slightly over half of the 1000 respondents surveyed believed that Singapore should consider legalizing cannabis for medical purposes.
Speaking at the conference, Minister Shanmugam said: “If we are not careful, if we are not strict, our country will be awash with drugs. It’s your children and mine who will be affected.”
For example, in Thailand where the cultivation and consumption of cannabis were legalised in June, there have been reports of teenagers hallucinating and harming themselves after smoking cannabis. The Thai authorities have since had to impose stop-gap measures - such as banning cannabis use in schools and banning its sale to children as well as women who are pregnant or breastfeeding - to control the situation.
“I asked IMH to do a literature review in 2015 and they looked at a comprehensive review of the literature that had been published on the use of cannabis. And it was clear from all over the world, research papers done by scientists, that cannabis consumption is associated with irreversible brain damage, shrinkage of the brain, as well as serious mental and psychiatric illnesses,” Minister added.
Acknowledging that there are indeed medical uses for cannabis, Minister Shanmugam said that the government will approve of the use of cannabis if “doctors prescribe it under certain conditions for a patient”. However, Minister Shanmugam also stressed that cannabis prescription “should be a choice of doctors, not pharma companies selling through shops”.
👉🏻https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/sia-passenger-who-allegedly-made-bomb-threat-example-of-drug-harms-shanmugam
👉🏻https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/53-per-cent-think-spore-should-consider-legalising-cannabis-but-only-for-medical-use
👉🏻https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/speeches/sana-conference-on-recovery-and-desistance-from-substance-abuse
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[10:41 am, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Maintain our stance and strengthen further
[10:47 am, 03/10/2022] +Noraini: I just learnt my friend's son smoked cigarette from sec 4. She said peer influence from Queenstown secondary. I already 😢😲 .
Cannabis is not even in my scope of discussion.
Next year my son going Nitec West (my choice). Now they tell me it's gangster environment. Tried to change location to Central but Nitec red tape policy not flexible.
Now alarm bells on my head
[10:59 am, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Likewise for me when I first started smoking in secondary school but couldn't catch on.
[11:01 am, 03/10/2022] +Uncle Law: Educating the kids as early as possible. Strengthen with visits to rehabilitation if possible. This way they have a better sense of consequences
[11:03 am, 03/10/2022] +SL: Actually, what is our stance now? Are we going to maintain zero tolerance for substance abuse? I m confused as I thought it is zero tolerance.
[11:03 am, 03/10/2022] +Timohty Low: Is smoking cigarettes less harmful than smoking cannabis? What’s are the differences in terms of damage?
[11:04 am, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Status quo for źero tolerance
[11:06 am, 03/10/2022] +Timohty Low: If the damage is the same, why are we allowing people to smoke cigarettes and not cannabis? If not ban both for the sake of everyone’s health?
[11:10 am, 03/10/2022] +SL: I m still unclear about the stance as I was confused by the survey result and the perception of opinion outcome of overseas consumption for recent cases. Are the clauses in the regulation going to amend to exclude oversea consumption?
[11:11 am, 03/10/2022] +Rama: No exemption whatsoever
[11:12 am, 03/10/2022] +SL: Great to hear that there is no exemption 👍👏👏
[11:23 am, 03/10/2022] +SL: A 2003 article from Imperial College School of Medicine, St Mary's Hospital indicated that Cannabis increased the incidence of mental illnesses (schizophrenia and depression), its compound “Tetrahydrocannabinol” has cardiovascular effects, and sudden deaths have been attributed to smoking cannabis.
[11:24 am, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: 3 October, 2022
"Hard to Quit or Easy to Quit 毒瘾难改?"
"Only when you felt remorseful, the subsequent events would be full of pains...so why do it?"
- - annoymous
"Survey said...?"
History:
In the two Opium wars (1839-42 & 1856-60) of China, millions of addicted Chinese, broken homes and lastly a destroyed country!
Now:
It is 'cool and chill' (没事) to consume abit of 'this and that' drugs, aka party or lifestyles supplements of fun and relaxation? Are these truly fun and meaningful (eating) habits or 'part of' a person's stressful life? What's the benefits in trying without been caught and or addicted? The key is avoiding something yet it seems to be rather thrilling thing to do it!
Why no?
In one sentence, simply, its a harmful recreation!
Why yes…
[11:30 am, 03/10/2022] +Rama: But as our MHA K Shanmugam said, becoming very tough
[11:32 am, 03/10/2022] +SL: We need to be united and stand for if zero tolerance is the status quo. Else zero tolerance will no longer be there as the pressure is mounting to disband this concept.
[11:35 am, 03/10/2022] +SL: Action for zero tolerance speaks a thousand words. It will indicate clearly to the world the stance.
[11:38 am, 03/10/2022] +Rama: The current social media chat is why answer in Singapore for consumption overseas!
[11:39 am, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: "Doing things in closed door or doing things outdoor or doing things far away...?'
- - annoymous
[11:40 am, 03/10/2022] +RH: Watch recent coverage by CNA on teen vaping as flws ...
Review ...
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/why-teens-vape-singapore-talking-point-special-2954496
[11:41 am, 03/10/2022] +RH: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/watch/talking-point-2022-2023/teen-vaping-part-1-are-we-crisis-2957681
[11:41 am, 03/10/2022] +RH: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/watch/talking-point-2022-2023/teen-vaping-part-2-how-can-we-end-it-2974306
[11:42 am, 03/10/2022] +RH: The review more or less sums up wat is covered in the 2 videos.
😁
[11:45 am, 03/10/2022] +RH: Keep the status quo.
Again, if there is a need, such as for medical reasons, then it can be prescribed by the relevant authorised professional.
So, rules r ther to keep the general popn safe.
Exceptions can be made, based on case by case basis.
No need to change the rule.
It's for the sake of posterity.
[0:02 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: No difference if caught!
[0:42 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: 3 October, 2022
"Do or Don't - Many sticky situations?"
" When your guests stay with you, they bring along baggages of habit and behavior. When you live in the same home, you tends to be comfortable untill you visit others home, are you opening your door or...?"
- - annoymous
Strictly speaking, some young ones, the younger generation and the newly arrived folks (singles) may feel that Singapore is a restrictive, boring and no fun place,...Where are the avenue for recreations and relaxations? Will education helps, perhaps no?"
To be a 'closely protected' country or selectively 'open and close' policies or on the path of openess? This is a shifting paradigms of individuals, aspirations and demographics! Watch out, it's happening for a while...?
Some of your guests are 'READY'? How about you and your neighbors, sooner or later or don't care about changes and challenges?
- - in progress - -
[0:46 pm, 03/10/2022] +SL: Is section 16 of the Tobacco (Control of Advertisement and Sale) Act effective in deterring?
[0:48 pm, 03/10/2022] +SL: Where and how are these stocks coming from and selling in Singapore?
[0:52 pm, 03/10/2022] +Valli: Maintain Zero tolerance.
Once you allow use, abuse will go infinity.
And all the efforts that we have done so far will go down the drain.
As can be seen in neighbouring countries, even though they are conservative country, allowing cannabis results in higher crimes , etc
[0:56 pm, 03/10/2022] +KSFoong: Just like open up for bicycles on foot path. No way to reverse!
[1:02 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Agree
[1:04 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: "Thermomixer for 'society', it comes with a steeper price to pay? Better to cook using proven simpler kitchen tools or try mitigating and innovative methods, can also,...just don't flop the food?"
- - annoymous
用于‘社会’的 Thermomixer，要付出更高的代价？最好使用经过验证的更简单的厨房工具做饭，或者尝试减轻和创新的方法，也可以，......重要的是不要把食物弄脏？”
- - 无名
[1:12 pm, 03/10/2022] +KSFoong: Why use a butcher’s big knife to kill a chicken🤔？we should not treat exceptional case as norm.
[1:46 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: A humble and traditional thoughts . Frankly allowing sportsman or whoever go almost free after taking drug is already a leyway . They not even war hero’s . If will make it hard for sg to explain why we captial punished drug offenders ( consumption or trafficking) next time . The issue is both encourage Kingpins into SG .
[1:54 pm, 03/10/2022] +65 9847 9001: cannabis leads to harder drugs. cigarettes leads to more cigarette and lung cancer, they don't go and steal from others to feed their cigarette addictions haha
[1:55 pm, 03/10/2022] +65 9847 9001: kids will be kids, a moment of error and curiosity, Bill Clinton smoke cannabis in his youthful days. We all do naughty things went we were teens
[2:01 pm, 03/10/2022] +REACH: 📢 Topic📢
Singapore has long been known for its zero-tolerance policy towards substance abuse. However, in light of recent events, most notably a series of occurrences where national athletes were found to have taken cannabis overseas, questions have been raised about Singapore’s stance on cannabis.
At a Singapore Anti-Narcotics Association conference on 29 Sept, Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam reiterated the government’s stance on cannabis and that the government bases its policies on evidence and science, which clearly shows cannabis use is harmful.
💬 What are your views on Singapore's stance on drugs consumption such cannabis, and those who consume them overseas?
Yet, according to a recent survey commissioned by the Sunday Times, slightly over half of the 1000 respondents surveyed believed that Singapore should consider legalizing cannabis for medical purposes.
Speaking at the conference, Minister Shanmugam said: “If we are not careful, if we are not strict, our country will be awash with drugs. It’s your children and mine who will be affected.”
For example, in Thailand where the cultivation and consumption of cannabis were legalised in June, there have been reports of teenagers hallucinating and harming themselves after smoking cannabis. The Thai authorities have since had to impose stop-gap measures - such as banning cannabis use in schools and banning its sale to children as well as women who are pregnant or breastfeeding - to control the situation.
“I asked IMH to do a literature review in 2015 and they looked at a comprehensive review of the literature that had been published on the use of cannabis. And it was clear from all over the world, research papers done by scientists, that cannabis consumption is associated with irreversible brain damage, shrinkage of the brain, as well as serious mental and psychiatric illnesses,” Minister added.
Acknowledging that there are indeed medical uses for cannabis, Minister Shanmugam said that the government will approve of the use of cannabis if “doctors prescribe it under certain conditions for a patient”. However, Minister Shanmugam also stressed that cannabis prescription “should be a choice of doctors, not pharma companies selling through shops”.
👉🏻https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/sia-passenger-who-allegedly-made-bomb-threat-example-of-drug-harms-shanmugam
👉🏻https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/53-per-cent-think-spore-should-consider-legalising-cannabis-but-only-for-medical-use
👉🏻https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/speeches/sana-conference-on-recovery-and-desistance-from-substance-abuse
[2:02 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: This is a pragmatic and forward thinking approach. Enabling safe use, controlled and under supervision will prevent abuse. "Acknowledging that there are indeed medical uses for cannabis, Minister Shanmugam said that the government will approve of the use of cannabis if “doctors prescribe it under certain conditions for a patient”. However, Minister Shanmugam also stressed that cannabis prescription “should be a choice of doctors, not pharma companies selling through shops”.
[2:03 pm, 03/10/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
There are 3 issues that I wish to convey my thoughts under this topic (addiction, health impariment, adverse social and economic impact) :-
a. Drug abuse (addictive drugs such as cannabis, heroin, opium etc).
b. Vaping
c. Smoking - cigarettes addiction through nicotine
[2:03 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Yes, true. We shouldn't over-react to a moment of curiousity, but equally not become complacent to the impact of dangerous drugs, such as heroin, crack etc.
[2:04 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Alcohol is probably more harmful than cannabis, and smoking cigarettes worse than both of them.
[2:05 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: cannabis has shown to be an effective medical drug, like other authorised medical drugs, which are also dangerous is abused.
[2:06 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: The question isn't about Cannabis, per se, it's about safe management of it, and avoiding the message that it's ok to take regularly.
[2:07 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: We allow spirits to be used recreationally, but not while driving or at work. We also take action when people break the law under the influence. We don't stop people at home (or in bars!) drinking Whisky.
[2:07 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Andrew,...
This thingie" cannot play play!
[2:09 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: So, is the debate about medicinal use of cannabis, or about accepting the use of cannabis overseas for recreations (or medical) use?
[2:09 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Hi KL, good observations...
What if these "pins" are already here?
[2:10 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Remain to be seen how much further we can strengthen our laws on this.
[2:11 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Rule#3....
"Do it far away and don't get caught "
[2:11 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: I think it been common for medical use . No need debate plus hospital use morphine no need use diamorphine
[2:12 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Extend your holiday to dilute the body system before returning to Singapore
[2:12 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: If yes do inform in this chat . I think so during covids also a lot small pins got caught right ?
[2:13 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Maybe look at all countries where is is used (some for both purposes). Canada, US, Thailand, Czech Republic, Portugal, Russia, Croatia, Spain, Ukraine, Austrilia, parts of Africa and Switzerland
[2:13 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Andrew, good observations...
If it was so easy, there will not be a need for law and order. If it was that simple, all would have given in. Finally, if these Drugs problems don't exist than there is crime too?
[2:13 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Kingpin will lead to traids and lead further unrest
[2:14 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: So best banned all , later become MFA issue again like that Malaysia case
[2:14 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: KL, bingo!
What if triads already here? Maybe only!
[2:14 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Minister Shanmugam, CNB, AGC is cracking their heads
[2:15 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: It always here just that more or less and they don’t own gun
[2:15 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Stand FIRM!
Not all things are equal and negotiable too!
Drugs is one such non negotiable trade!
[2:15 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Medicinal use of cannabis is allowed in extreme circumstances, I understand, already: "Medical cannabis
In recent years, the usage of medicinal cannabis has been relaxed, but nevertheless remains severely restricted, and it's often been considered as the drug of last resort after all treatment options have been exhausted.
The Singapore's National Research Foundation (NRF) announced on January 10, 2018 that it would develop synthetic medicinal cannabinoids, or chemical compounds found in the marijuana plant, to eventually help treat diseases such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. Part of a broader S$25 million ($19 million) investment by the body into synthetic biology, the initiative is intended to boost Singapore's push to develop a “bio-based economy,” and …
[2:15 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Yes
[2:15 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Singapore - not sure if it's true as it's on Wikipedia
[2:16 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Poppies seed is spice but we banned it
[2:17 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: I believe in Malaysia still available. Saw some in Malacca years ago.
[2:17 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Sorry to ask Are u in sg or Malaysia ?
[2:19 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: I am in Singapore now but was on holiday some years ago when I saw it
[2:19 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: If u bring a kg over sure gone case lol
[2:19 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: I don't want people on street corners selling illegal drugs at all, and I'm happy the penalities are stiff. However, if there is a legal path, that is measured, controlled, managed, for medicinal prescribed use then maybe not so bad. It would be easy to then monitor and alter the policy as needed.
[2:19 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Only 1-2 nation banned it
[2:20 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Chapter 26, "Fudge counter -Fudge and the future...
[2:20 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: One u trade drug can buy armes
[2:20 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: The futures lies on your hand :)
[2:20 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: We already have drugs though - Alcohol and Cigarettes.
[2:21 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Plus Washing Money...
"This M is the road to all E....!"
[2:21 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: U know why drugs are banned but not cigarettes? It the level of addiction
[2:21 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Yes
[2:21 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Don't agree
[2:22 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: I agree with you, but currently not possible in Singapore. So are people travelling abroad to consume for medical purposes? My understand is that a small daily dose is required.
[2:22 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: A kg seed may not produce 15g diamorphine . That one you need to ask chemist as I not professional.
[2:22 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: If there a replace medication I don’t think we need to use morphine
[2:22 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Don't agree for medical? I respect your opinion (and our difference of opinion!)
[2:23 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Mostly on war or terminal patient
[2:24 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Which drugs do you mean? Drugs ranges from aspirin to crack cocaine! I think cigarettes are probably the most addictive. Look how hard it is for people to give up, and how many 'ways' to give up there are offered. From patches to hypnosis!
[2:25 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Frankly I think sooner or later cigarette will be in
[2:26 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Not sure if it's cannabis that leads to harder drugs or the illegal sales people pushing harder drugs. No evidence in countries where medical cannabis is obtained legally, that those patients are now consuming harder drugs.
[2:27 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Need to be careful how we read the statistics. When people obtain medical cannabis from a dr, there is no evidence they are turning to crime to fuel their habit. Why would they need to? If I have a headache I don't need to rob and steal to buy from Watsons.
[2:28 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Generally, there is no difference between marijuana and cannabis and the two terms are often used to describe the same thing.
Cannabis describes cannabis products in general.
Marijuana specifically refers to cannabis products that are made from the dried flowers, leaves, stems and seeds of the cannabis plant.
How much THC does marijuana contain?
Compared to other forms of cannabis, such as hash and hash oil, marijuana usually contains the least concentration of THC. The average potency (concentration or strength) of THC in dried cannabis is between 15% to 30%.
How is marijuana consumed?
Although marijuana is usually rolled up and smoked like a cigarette or cigar, or made into edible products like cookies or brownies, it can also be brewed as a tea or inf…
[2:28 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Medical cannabis doesn't need to be smoked. It can be consumed as a liquid or tablet.
[2:29 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Difference between marijuana and hemp
Hemp is a variety of the cannabis sativa plant. The main difference between hemp and other strains of cannabis such as marijuana is that there is a very low percentage of THC compound in hemp, lower than 0.3% and therefore, hemp is not normally used as a recreational drug. Rather it is grown for its fiber seed and most often used for industrial purposes, such as in the manufacturing of paper or clothing. It can also be used as a food product.
Difference between “marijuana” and “marihuana”
The term “marihuana” is most commonly thought to have first originated from the Spanish language spoken in Mexico in the early 1900s. It entered the English language soon after. Over time, “marijuana” became the more common spelling us…
[2:29 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Yes, exactly. We shouldn't confuse cannabis products for medical purposes with dangerous drugs like heroin or tobacco.
[2:29 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Government is aware can still leaf to misuse and abuse
[2:30 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: If we give people access to safe consumption of cannabis to treat a condition then they don't need to buy illegally in a form they have to smoke.
[2:30 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: That you should get a doctor letter
[2:30 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Hemp as a possible usage for GREENER construction materials, this hemp aka hempcrete (concrete)!
[2:31 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Yes, 100%. should only be available by perscription in a form that is mild and safe.
[2:31 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/cbd-products-are-everywhere-but-do-they-work
[2:31 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: So if arguments about this Cannibis, perhaps it should be based on Utilisation and benefits than loose usages...
[2:32 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: That makes sense, yes
[2:33 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Casual use becomes a questionable issue of abusing the good intension of medical purposes!
[2:34 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Let's look at economic benefits of the CBD industry: https://www.europeanbusinessreview.com/economic-impact-of-cbd-worldwide/
[2:34 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Will never happen here unless medical data is accepted!
[2:35 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Correct, more study is needed.
[2:35 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: We have an excellent bio medical reputation. Again, Singapore can lead the world here.
[2:35 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: If we apply the Utility concept of reasonings.
Perhaps, use for 'fun' would equal to illegal activities.
Example of a person seeking medical interventions on schedule treatments or emergency, knowingly infused Cannabis as one antidote of treating. It will be lawful with medical reasons.
[2:36 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Let outsiders keep trying to convince us on their terms!
[2:37 pm, 03/10/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Drug abuse (addictive drugs such as cannabis, heroin, opium etc)
1. Drug abuse (specifically cannabis, heroin, opium and other newer addictive drugs) - have been a detrimental effects to :-
a. The health of drug abuser - which is not only addictive but according to medical specialist :-
Straits Times (PUBLISHED OCT 2, 2022, 5:00 AM SGT)
Multiple studies, including those done by Singapore researchers, have found that cannabis use is linked to effects ranging from impairing a person's memory and decision-making, to developing major psychiatric conditions such as schizophrenia, depression and bipolar disorder.
"Early, chronic, recreational consumption of cannabis, in particular, is generally found to exert deleterious effects on learning abilities, executive function, working memory, verbal memory and general intelligence," said a 2017 paper by three Singapore researchers.
b. The effect from addiction is scientifically proven beyond reasonable doubt :
A literature review by another team of psychiatrists and researchers from IMH in 2015 found that among those who used cannabis, about one in 10 will develop dependence.
This increases to one in two among those who used cannabis daily.
The team had reviewed more than 500 papers from international medical journals in the US and Europe, as well as other sources of information.
But in general, regular, daily exposure to larger amounts of THC can increase the risk of developing addiction, and other mental health problems such as paranoia, anxiety and psychosis, said Dr Kandasami.
c. We have seen many recent cases of very serious drug induced crimes or suicides :- Just to name 2 :-
a. Double murder - where the son murder his mother and grandmother under the influence of drugs - and go on to hurt residents in his blocks using knife.
b. Halliucination under drug - by being violence and claim bomb in SIA plane.
2. According to the doctors, the use of cannabis for medical purposes is extremely rare in Singapore. The drug is also known as marijuana or weed.
The Straits Times (PUBLISHED OCT 2, 2022, 5:00 AM SGT) has reported that since 2019, two people who suffer from treatment-resistant epilepsy were granted permission to use cannabis-derived medication here.
Hence, drugs such as cannabis, heroin, opium etc - should never be allowed in recreation, over the counter touted as medicinal drugs.
It should be strictly be prescribed by doctors ---- and under very close supervision and surveillance by MOH.
3. Hence our laws on drugs must be draconian - not only locally but also extend to drugs traffick from overseas, or consume in overseas ---- as we do not want our citizens, residents in Singapore - to suffer under the influence of such drugs.
Because it will not only affect the individuals, it will also affect their families, the societies as a whole - as well as the whole Nation workforce.
4. During Qing dynasty in China, opium was introduced as medical drugs from the West. Then it slowly push as recreational drugs.
In a while, the whole China is addicted and very difficult to kick off the habit.
China has to start 2 Opium War --- with the West to stop the flow of Opium into China.
But China with weak people (due to opium addiction), poor weapons, poor resources lost both wars -- and is forced to sign the unjustified treaty with the West.
This is a historical lesson --- that Singapore must not fall into.
"Once we let loose a tiger ---- it is very difficult to catch it, force it back and trap it ---- it will bite and kill many people along the way" --- as quoted by our Minister Shangmugam.
5. Singapore must never show weakness in tackling drug trafficking - even the use of capital punishment - and drug consumption (whether consume locally or overseas).
6. However, I am particularly concern about Singaporeans or residents travelling overseas like Thailand or some other Countries that have legalised drugs --- whereby food, tidbits and drinks are laced with drugs --- and Singaporeans and residents unwittingly consume it.
a. Will such minimal consumption cause detrimental to the health of Singaporeans and residents?
b. Understand that our law will not punish such ignorance consumption - but how would Authorities tighten this --- to ensure drug addict don't use this as excuse to travel to these Countries to feed their addiction and cause problems to our Societies?
7. Lastly, I will like to urge the Government to never go weak in dealing with drug trafficking, drug abuse, drug consumption, recreation drug and even using such drugs for medical purpose (which must be under very tight supervision and surveillance) --- as science have proven such drugs cause more harm than good.
[2:37 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Example of a group of people or alone. Vaping or smoking 'grsss', is a non essential and unjustifiable activities. It should be not lawful regardless of the location or premise.
[2:38 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Utility is the key and decider of the law, either lawful or unlawful!
[2:40 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Utility is clearer than ambiguous especially a person's statutory rights, these days are getting louder and wider?
[2:43 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Is titbits or cooked food with 'Grass' in it, is it a necessary ingredient or not so or a new hype way in making or cooking?
[2:44 pm, 03/10/2022] +REACH: More than 2,000 people exempted from vaccination-differentiated measures due to adverse reactions to COVID-19 shots: MOH
👉🏼 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/2000-exempted-vaccine-differentiated-covid-19-adverse-vaccines-2982301
130 people have received incorrect doses of COVID-19 vaccines: MOH
👉🏼 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/covid-19-vaccine-overdose-underdose-130-moh-undiluted-incorrect-2982176
Online platforms, social media firms may be ordered to block access to harmful content under new Bill
👉🏼 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/harmful-online-content-protect-children-internet-sexual-violence-self-harm-2982196
87% of households have claimed May 2022 CDC vouchers
👉🏼 https://str.sg/wHZ9
[2:46 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: The use of Morphine for palliative patients is a justified medical needs, aka end of life painless medicine.
[2:46 pm, 03/10/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
We have to understand human psychology - push as medical drugs, then recreation drugs, then free for all.
Once we let loose a tiger bit by bit - it become uncontrollable - and a monster is unleash.
Ancient China opium addiction is for everyone to see.
A painful historical lesson.
If we don't learn from people's mistake and painful lesson - then we deserve to be condemned.
[2:49 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Receiving Wrong Vaccine Dosage?
Perhaps is training and how well trained the person that is administering the vaccine.
"One big vial vs one portion...?"
[2:52 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Blocking sites?
Blocking a site is the first happiness and a happy problem unsolved.
Why so?
These undesirable sites will 'circumvent' through VPN etc to 'enter' again, this case reaching out to as many viewers or browsers, intended or unintended!
[2:56 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: What does this mean? We are a country integrated into the world. Who are the outsiders?
[2:58 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Good to hear Social Media being kept in check.
[3:04 pm, 03/10/2022] +SL: Is Rama referring to resident aliens in the Singapore community?
[3:06 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Good help, next is to monitor situations into 2023 especially into Q2...
[3:09 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: If they are resident they are inside, lol
[3:14 pm, 03/10/2022] +SL: Maybe wait for the detail of the bill and see its impact to public at large after the bill assented to become a law. Fake account is issue in social media.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/08/tech/disney-twitter-fake-accounts/index.html
[3:28 pm, 03/10/2022] +SL: “harmful online content could have at least a moderate impact on children and youths.”
I think technology companies should redesign the parental control or internet security software marked as banking industry products. It required several parental control software and internet security and dlp software installed in 1 unit to achieve the anticipated outcome. It resulted in a significant upgrade of ddr and ssd. The worst case is some of the software contradicted each other.
[3:31 pm, 03/10/2022] +SL: My bad, I mean nonresidents
[3:54 pm, 03/10/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Vaping
1. Vaping is a e-cigarette deliver through an electronic delivery device.
2. It consist of addictive ingredient - primarily nicotine (although other substances such as marijuana oil can also be vaped).
3. It may also contain vape juice usually consists of propylene glycol or vegetable glycerin base that contains nicotine, flavoring and other additives and chemicals.
People sometimes mistakenly think that the cloud of vapor that is exhaled when using e-cigarette devices is just a cloud of water droplets, but it actually consists of fine particles. These fine particles may contain toxic organic chemicals that have been linked to cancer.
4. As nicotine is highly addictive, once started will be very difficult to stop.
5. The most common side effects of vaping include:
Addiction to nicotine (unless nicotine-free cartridges are used)
Coughing
Dehydration
Dizziness
Dry nose
Eye irritation
Exacerbation of asthma in people, with pre-existing asthma
Headaches
Nausea
Sensitive teeth
A sore throat/dry throat/throat irritation
Stomach aches
Tongue sensitivity/tongue numbness/loss of taste.
Other side effects, such as a fast heartbeat (tachycardia), high blood pressure, and possibly seizures have been linked to high levels of nicotine. All products containing nicotine are toxic to children and pets and vaping supplies, including full and empty refills, should be kept out of reach of children and animals, preferably in a locked cupboard. Drinking, sniffing, or even accidentally touching the liquid in ECs can cause poisoning.
Some flavorings (notably diacetyl) and other additives used in ECs have been linked to a respiratory condition called bronchiolitis obliterans, also known as Popcorn Lung. It has also been reported that during the heating and vaporizing process some EC liquids release formaldehyde, a possible carcinogen.
6. Hence Singapore approach to vaping (like approach to drug abuse) - is to make it illegal and ban it on the outset ----- as vaping is harmful to people and serve no useful purpose - but to get people addicted and bring about a host of health problem.
7. Vaping is new to Singapore unlike smoking cigarettes that are introduced since colonial time.
Banning vaping on the outset and making it illegal - has the least social and political impact.
8. Hence I support the Government to make vaping illegal and ban them in Singapore --- a useless habit and product - that aim to cause addiction and harm the people's health with no useful benefits on its used.
[4:00 pm, 03/10/2022] +REACH: 📢 Topic📢
Singapore has long been known for its zero-tolerance policy towards substance abuse. However, in light of recent events, most notably a series of occurrences where national athletes were found to have taken cannabis overseas, questions have been raised about Singapore’s stance on cannabis.
At a Singapore Anti-Narcotics Association conference on 29 Sept, Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam reiterated the government’s stance on cannabis and that the government bases its policies on evidence and science, which clearly shows cannabis use is harmful.
💬 What are your views on Singapore's stance on drugs consumption such cannabis, and those who consume them overseas?
Yet, according to a recent survey commissioned by the Sunday Times, sligh…
[4:02 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: People telling us to follow their lifestyle and way of life
[4:12 pm, 03/10/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Smoking cigarettes, cigar
1. This habit is introduced since colonial times - a deeply rooted habit.
2. Cigarettes contain harmful addictive agent - specifically nicotine - which make it extremely hard to kick the habit.
3. People who smoke can quickly become dependent on nicotine and suffer physical and emotional (mental or psychological) withdrawal symptoms when they stop smoking. These symptoms include irritability, nervousness, headaches, and trouble sleeping. The true mark of addiction, though, is that people still smoke even though they know smoking is bad for them – affecting their lives, their health, and their families in unhealthy ways. In fact, most people who smoke want to quit.
4. According to medical study, about 2 out of 3 of people who smoke say they want to quit and about half try to quit each year, but few succeed without help. This is because they not only become physically dependent on nicotine. There’s also a strong emotional (psychological) dependence. Nicotine affects behavior, mood, and emotions. If a person uses tobacco to help manage unpleasant feelings and emotions, it can become a problem for some when they try to quit. Someone who smokes may link smoking with social activities and many other activities, too. All of these factors make smoking a hard habit to break.
In fact, it may be harder to quit smoking than to stop using cocaine or opiates like heroin.
5. Hence, to ban smoking cigarettes and cigars now (like drug abuse or vaping) - will be have a big adverse political and social impact.
6. The strategy to tighten bit by bit ---- is an appropriate strategy to adopt to bit-by-bit discourage and reduced smoking and inhaling nicotine.
a. Increase tax on cigarettes and cigars sale every budget year.
b. Make many places illegal to smoke - and need to smoke at designated places (ususally uncomfortable - mark roadside smoking areas).
c. Recently even ban smoking in beach
d. Ban young people of certain age onwards from buying cigarettes.
etc.
7. I feel that by tightening the noose in smoking helps to make smoking cigarettes more and more difficult helps.
But more targeted help, incentive, promotion and marketing of helping to kick tobacco used --- will be more helpful.
8. Eg. https://www.healthhub.sg/live-healthy/422/howtoquit
This healthhub link to help smokers to kick off smoking is more helpful and targeted.
But stronger push on this approach together with tightening the noose of smoking ---- slowly towards the hard ban ---- will be helpful to move our Nation towards a "smoke free" Nation.
[4:22 pm, 03/10/2022] ☸️ Danny 心: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/property-cooling-15-month-wait-private-homeowners-buy-resale-hdb-analysts-2975946
15-month wait for private home owners to buy resale HDB 'a form of deterrence for buyers with deep pockets': Analysts.
The 15-month wait-out period may also affect the HDB resale market, particularly the bigger five-room and executive flats, say property analysts.
[4:37 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/build-rent-hdb-flats-housing-model-2363826
[4:47 pm, 03/10/2022] +REACH: Job growth for locals shows bringing in global talent not a zero-sum game: Tan See Leng
👉🏼 https://str.sg/wH4S
Airlines' flight plans show Changi Airport volume should reach 80% of 2019 levels by year-end
👉🏼 https://str.sg/wH4i
[4:48 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: https://youtu.be/mai7N8wkrZE
[4:49 pm, 03/10/2022] +Suma pamu: 😀Focusing On milliom dollor flafs wrong move!
Are there only downgraders paying high prices, and COVs (a 4rm flat selling at 550k-600k in punggol, with about 40K COV, so govt thinking Rich downgraders are the only cause?
Not sure what to say. When PRs happily buys HDBwhen he gets eligibilty, A citizen penalised.becz he invested here before.
Lets wait and see how much Prices will.go down.
And Do not worry that Mature estates BTO price 500k Plus, Sooon we might see this Non mature estates, given the current Resale prices there
Goof intention but wrong actions, except the Stress tests🙏🏽
[4:49 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Agree
[4:50 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Yes, I like NZ approach of increases age of smoking by 1 year each year, to inhibit new smokers
[4:50 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Malaysia is following
[4:50 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: Oh, I didn't see that. Good!
[4:51 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: I guess sometimes we can learn good ideas from our neighbours as they can from us, Western or Asian no difference. Everyone benefits
[5:07 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: 3 October, 2022
"If a company survives, it's staffs survive. If a company thrives, it hires more! If a company dies, all of its staffs would have to say bye bye...!"
- - annoymous
Straits Times - 3/10/22
"Workers' Party MP Gerald Giam (Aljunied GRC) asked if a quota for the bottom half of income earners among EP holders could be introduced to encourage employers to hire and train more Singaporeans, as well as ensure skills transfer.
In response, Dr Tan said such a quota would restrict Singapore's ability to compete and hold companies here back.
Instead, MOM is ensuring it brings in quality talent that complements Singapore's workforce via the Complementarity Assessment Framework (Compass)."
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/jobs-growth…
[5:12 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Maybe should define what is talents ? I saw ppl cant even speak English got PR . Remember the tour guide that cheat sg old lady millions ? Aren’t that a good examples ?
[5:13 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: I think call yang something
[5:13 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: Government looking at numbers without due diligence!?
[5:15 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Talent is like hiring a baker than a Senior kitchen help with years of seeing and baking skills....
Talented baker, this case would kick start his role and introduce more receipts and variety of cakes too.
Isn't it talent is more than skills plus a strong sense of innovations too?
[5:16 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: You really think I can’t different cheap white collar with talents
[5:16 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: You really think I can’t different between cheap white collar and talents
[5:24 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: I like your example
[5:25 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Than the talented baker will hire 4 local cleaner and than hire 20 Malaysian baker right ?
[5:26 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: 4 cleaner 3pr only one is citizen
[5:27 pm, 03/10/2022] +65 9740 5395: On today's topic, this is only a part of the problem when B2B transits to B2C, and eventually C2C. Its difficult to govern and give rise to problems like smuggling and online scams.
[5:32 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Hi KL, thanks! One more to share with everyone. To prove that WP quota game plan not so solid proof vs the COMPASS game plan. Non bias, here it goes!
Economics of Wage:
...the price paid to labour for its contribution to the process of production is called wages. Labour is an important factor of production. If there is no labour to work, all other factors, be it land or capital, will remain idle. Thus, Karl Marx termed labour as the “creator of all value".
Determinant of Wages:
wages are determined just like any other price: by supply and demand. People supply their labor, and companies demand it, creating a market for labor.
Cheap labor:
Sir Arthur Lewis’s seminal work (1954), developing economies are characterized by two sectors: a low-productivity s…
[5:35 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Of course U not the one that sacrificed. I agree with you but did not they create 1/6 of local ppl for EM3 and ITE ppl ?
[5:35 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: In the past only 1/6 now it spread to all level
[5:35 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: You are referring to the concept of "streaming"....
[5:36 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Where the 180 Doctor they going to get from developed country ?
[5:37 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: When time arrives, soon, ITE tradesman will earn good wages for hands on projects!
[5:38 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: U sure?
[5:38 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: U from ite ?
[5:38 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: India, Myanmar, Philippines?
[5:38 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: I thgt I say developed country
[5:38 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: :)
[5:38 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Example is plumber.
[5:39 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Pls share with us...
[5:39 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Go read today news ba
[5:41 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Than have to fight daily with plumber from Malaysia which comes across daily
[5:43 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: So competition in play, always do.
No guaranteed of all job security from Left to Right and top to bottom?
[5:43 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Where is the news article, kindly Post it for us. Thanks
[5:45 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: Sorry I like the ideas on importing foreigner doctor cos it benefit me in term of cost
[5:45 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: It impact elite not me :)
[5:48 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: But do sure they got good English last time the doctor I see can’t even speak English and just refer me to specialist.
[5:50 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: May be doctors Coming in from developed countries, like Qatar. The nationalities of these doctors may originate from else where?
[5:53 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Likewise, a well trained and experienced staff nurse working for more than 5 years in our hospital.
When he or she goes to Australia to work, is this imported nurse from developed country?
Or another correct definition, nationality counts?
[5:58 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: U would rather ppl go ite or don’t know what than to give them do nurse mean resource allocation was wrong last decade :)
[5:59 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: But we talk about doctor not nurse
[6:01 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Likewise doctor.
[6:02 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: Big topic...
Need to research deeper this timeline of allocations.
Pls ask MOE, MTI , they would have the headcounts for a list of vocations vs industries need and placements.
[6:03 pm, 03/10/2022] +KL: So did someone binkhood theppl into making” incorrect” human resource allocation decisions last decade ?
[6:04 pm, 03/10/2022] +REACH: 📢 Topic📢
Singapore has long been known for its zero-tolerance policy towards substance abuse. However, in light of recent events, most notably a series of occurrences where national athletes were found to have taken cannabis overseas, questions have been raised about Singapore’s stance on cannabis.
At a Singapore Anti-Narcotics Association conference on 29 Sept, Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam reiterated the government’s stance on cannabis and that the government bases its policies on evidence and science, which clearly shows cannabis use is harmful.
💬 What are your views on Singapore's stance on drugs consumption such cannabis, and those who consume them overseas?
Yet, according to a recent survey commissioned by the Sunday Times, slightly over half of the 1000 respondents surveyed believed that Singapore should consider legalizing cannabis for medical purposes.
Speaking at the conference, Minister Shanmugam said: “If we are not careful, if we are not strict, our country will be awash with drugs. It’s your children and mine who will be affected.”
For example, in Thailand where the cultivation and consumption of cannabis were legalised in June, there have been reports of teenagers hallucinating and harming themselves after smoking cannabis. The Thai authorities have since had to impose stop-gap measures - such as banning cannabis use in schools and banning its sale to children as well as women who are pregnant or breastfeeding - to control the situation.
“I asked IMH to do a literature review in 2015 and they looked at a comprehensive review of the literature that had been published on the use of cannabis. And it was clear from all over the world, research papers done by scientists, that cannabis consumption is associated with irreversible brain damage, shrinkage of the brain, as well as serious mental and psychiatric illnesses,” Minister added.
Acknowledging that there are indeed medical uses for cannabis, Minister Shanmugam said that the government will approve of the use of cannabis if “doctors prescribe it under certain conditions for a patient”. However, Minister Shanmugam also stressed that cannabis prescription “should be a choice of doctors, not pharma companies selling through shops”.
👉🏻https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/sia-passenger-who-allegedly-made-bomb-threat-example-of-drug-harms-shanmugam
👉🏻https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/53-per-cent-think-spore-should-consider-legalising-cannabis-but-only-for-medical-use
👉🏻https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/speeches/sana-conference-on-recovery-and-desistance-from-substance-abuse
[6:46 pm, 03/10/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
[6:48 pm, 03/10/2022] +L or BL: I think the passenger probably had mental health issues. I don't think the millions of cannabis users around the world have ever behaved like that!
[6:54 pm, 03/10/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
"Bomb threat on SIA flight by passenger shows harm from drug use: Shanmugam"
https://sg.yahoo.com/news/bomb-threat-sia-flight-harm-drug-use-shanmugam-144407739.html#:~:text=All%20rights%20reserved.-,Bomb%20threat%20on%20SIA%20flight%20by%20passenger%20shows%20harm%20from%20drug%20use%3A%20Shanmugam,-Staff%20Writer
Bomb threat on SIA flight by passenger shows harm from drug use: Shanmugam.
[6:55 pm, 03/10/2022] +Rama: I'm not do sure about millions
[6:59 pm, 03/10/2022] +Smiley face: 3 October, 2022
"End of the Line"
"For our future generations and our country's future, if by chance it gets out of control, perhaps it will be the end and a new beginning of social chaos. So say no to drugs abuse."
- - annoymous
So what do we need to know?
Since the independence of Singapore (enacted Misuse of Drugs Act (MDA) 1973) especially when 'zero drugs' was established, it is the most sensible and straight forward policy. Outside of our jurisdictions, over the decades, there were several challengers of this MDA by foreign entities or foreigners (offenders) when Capital punishments are handed out.
Abuse or casual use of drugs can be sleeping pills or 'pills' or cannabis either one or all are not wise things to try.
What more to say?
Please never say yes to drugs abuse regardless of race, religion or age!
[6:59 pm, 03/10/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
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