REACH 466 - What are your thoughts on CPIB's reports on the Ridout Road Rental Properties?
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30 Jun 2023 (10am - 7pm)
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30/06/2023, 8:59 am - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
On 28 June 2023, the Prime Minister Office issued a statement on the rental of State Properties at Ridout Road by Minister K Shanmugam and Minister Vivian Balakrishnan. The statement included a report submitted by the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) and a seperate review conducted by Senior Minister Teo Chee Hean.
The CPIB Report found no evidence of corruption or criminal wrongdoing by Ministers Shanmugam and Balakrishnan. The Attorney-General’s Chambers (“AGC”) has agreed with CPIB’s findings and recommendations and directed that no further action to be taken as the facts do not disclose any offence.
💬 *What are your thoughts on CPIB's reports on the Ridout Road Rental Properties?*
In the CPIB report released on Wednesday (Jun 28) following a month-long review, the agency said it found no preferential treatment given to the ministers and their spouses.
There was also no disclosure of privileged information in the process of the rental transactions, and no evidence to suggest any abuse of position by the ministers for personal gain, said CPIB in the report.
The Attorney-General’s Chambers (AGC) has agreed with CPIB's findings and recommendations, it said in the report. AGC has directed that no further action be taken because "the facts do not disclose any offence".
👉🏼Statement from the Prime Minister's Office
https://www.pmo.gov.sg/Newsroom/Rental-of-State-Properties-at-Ridout-Road-by-Min-Shanmugam-and-Min-Vivian-Balakrishnan
👉🏼 Ridout Road bungalow rentals: CPIB finds no corruption or wrongdoing by Shanmugam, Vivian
https://str.sg/iUsq
👉🏼 Ridout Road bungalow rentals: CPIB finds no corruption or wrongdoing by Shanmugam, Vivian
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/ridout-road-shanmugam-vivian-balakrishnan-state-bungalows-cpib-investigations-3592041
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30/06/2023, 9:09 am - +Rama: Report not opened to public scrutiny so cannot be accepted without Q and A public meeting. Also, free to air channels and sph seem quiet 9n details.
30/06/2023, 9:20 am - +Frankie Wee: We have no intention them whatever they have money to buy
30/06/2023, 9:21 am - +Smiley face: "Only If you can't describe what you are doing as a process, you don't know what you're doing."
- - W. Edwards Deming
30/06/2023, 9:22 am - +Frankie Wee: Whole Singapore already found out and know how much salary they earn than our local.
Minister so easy money earn than our we low pension.
30/06/2023, 9:26 am - +Sunshine Pooh: In order for one to access if there was no COI or it was a fair transactions.. all aspects of the process should be open for public scrutiny & review.
30/06/2023, 9:27 am - +Rama: More likely to raise doubts!
30/06/2023, 9:27 am - +Rama: Overpaid and underworked
30/06/2023, 9:27 am - +Rama: Will never happen!
30/06/2023, 9:27 am - +Sunshine Pooh: The review panel is not partisan. They r part of the ruling govt & their review and decision will never be impartial or fair.
30/06/2023, 9:28 am - +Uncle Law: There isn't much we can do
30/06/2023, 9:28 am - +Rama: Ownself check, cover, promote, discipline ownself for the last 57 years!
30/06/2023, 9:28 am - +Frankie Wee: LHL said in new SM Teo to revise independent I don’t get it meaning
30/06/2023, 9:29 am - +Rama: Exactly and they know that!
30/06/2023, 9:29 am - +Sunshine Pooh: Another episode of pulling wool over our eyes... but pple r not stupid
30/06/2023, 9:29 am - +Rama: Still, they could not care what the electorate think!
30/06/2023, 9:30 am - +Rama: Why put the report in Parliament under miscellaneous!?
30/06/2023, 9:31 am - +Rama: Wha oxley gate and ridout both helped by SM TCH & not a parliamentary committee consisting of at least one elected MP from each party!?
30/06/2023, 9:32 am - +Rama: Why*
30/06/2023, 9:32 am - +Sunshine Pooh: But it is immaterial to them. They know the people can't & won't do anything abt it
30/06/2023, 9:33 am - +Rama: Yet, we still have keyboard warriors by the thousands who keep silent at the ballot box!?
30/06/2023, 9:35 am - +Uncle Law: Eh we say so much here got use btw?
30/06/2023, 9:41 am - +Uncle Law: As much as we want to trust the gov, but the actions don't seems to show
30/06/2023, 9:41 am - +Uncle Law: Similar to the Keppel case
30/06/2023, 9:45 am - +Frankie Wee: PAP govt don’t lost against power over law
30/06/2023, 9:48 am - +Smiley face: Subject vs Object
30/06/2023, 9:50 am - +Smiley face: Next week, perhaps?
30/06/2023, 9:50 am - +Smiley face: Circumstances?
30/06/2023, 9:53 am - +Timothy Low: “No evidence to suggest any abuse of position by the ministers for personal gain” - actually the same can also be said for the Aljunied GRC case. So I wonder why different treatment? Is it because it’s opposition?
30/06/2023, 9:54 am - +Frankie Wee: PAP is member who can overcome the power against opposition take meanwhile own self confidence
30/06/2023, 9:54 am - +Frankie Wee: Parliament is like battle each other opposition
30/06/2023, 9:55 am - +Smiley face: The rigor and the Vigor...
30/06/2023, 9:55 am - +Timothy Low: Even though there is no criminal offense, as ministers they ought be put to a higher standard. Moreover there is a potential conflict of interest, as minsters themselves they should try to avoid such things from happening in the first place. I think there should be some form of “punishment” within the party itself to prevent such potential conflict of interests from happening
30/06/2023, 9:55 am - +Smiley face: A reasonable assumption...non-presumptious.
30/06/2023, 9:56 am - +Uncle Law: Politics is like that
30/06/2023, 9:57 am - +Frankie Wee: Human traffics treat fair to policy while govt overpaid
30/06/2023, 9:59 am - +Kenneth Lee WM: 29 June 2023 straitstimes, A7 page, showed shanmugan's unit is $30.94 psf rental, total quantum $26,500. Neighbouring unit which is as large as his is paying $32.50 psf rental, $26,000. It's interesting how "pay more than neighbour" is interpreted.
It's also interesting that despite not knowing what SLA's minimum price is, their bids came very close to it.
30/06/2023, 10:01 am - +Kenneth Lee WM: Even though legally transactions are ok, the optics is not good. Politicians should stay far far away from such things to avoid having their integrity questioned.
30/06/2023, 10:02 am - +Kenneth Lee WM: SLA is sitting on great pieces of rental asset - how can they afford not to lease them out for more than 4-5 years? where's their marketing?
30/06/2023, 10:03 am - +Smiley face: Mkt practices are 2-3 years lease unless exception, landlord and tenant go for 3+3
30/06/2023, 10:03 am - +Frankie Wee: Black and white paper
30/06/2023, 10:04 am - +Smiley face: Then stay where?
30/06/2023, 10:05 am - +Kenneth Lee WM: with their salary, they can afford to stay anywhere they wish!
30/06/2023, 10:05 am - +Smiley face: Each property is always UNIQUE...
LIKEWISE FOR B&W bungalows, unique from the other private bungalows...
Why?
30/06/2023, 10:05 am - +Smiley face: Choice to choose...
30/06/2023, 10:06 am - +Kenneth Lee WM: yes, poor choice to choose SLA gov bungalows which raise current issues now.
30/06/2023, 10:08 am - +Smiley face: As a landlord, if you only have ONE potential tenant...what will this landlord do?
Hold on and wait for the next potential tenant to surface or negotiate with this One and Closed the deal and move on?
So how? Any other smarter ways?
30/06/2023, 10:08 am - +Frankie Wee: Money not enough but alway enough money to buy 😂
30/06/2023, 10:10 am - +Kenneth Lee WM: so many hnw foreigners coming into singapore. eg: actively market to them, put it into their info packet when they apply for business permits/PR etc. don't wait for them to check SLA portal.
30/06/2023, 10:10 am - +Smiley face: So what other ways, if you in this pair of shoes?
Each property is unique...
There is an old saying "it is the house that looks for the owner and not the other way round?"
Is this myth true or just superstition at play?
30/06/2023, 10:11 am - +Kenneth Lee WM: if it's going to be controversial, i would not wear those shoes.
30/06/2023, 10:11 am - +Smiley face: Choice to choose between owning or renting or ?
30/06/2023, 10:12 am - +Smiley face: Contrary wisdom vs Convention wisdom...
Common vs Uncommon...
30/06/2023, 10:13 am - +Frankie Wee: Their pocket money of course money easy whatever they rental or owned or keep his own capital than liabilities
30/06/2023, 10:23 am - +Frankie Wee: In the Gospel of Matthew we find a story in which Jesus speaks with his followers about paying the temple tax. He instructs his followers, “Go to the sea and cast a hook; take the first fish that comes up; and when you open its mouth, you will find a coin; take that and give it to them for you and me” (Mt 17:23-27).
30/06/2023, 10:27 am - +Rama: Sgd1M for a full time MP is okay
30/06/2023, 10:28 am - +Smiley face: Some made their money easy while others not so...
Why? Is it luck playing or is it more than just lucky strikes?
30/06/2023, 10:28 am - +Smiley face: 30 June, 2023
'Circumstances?"
" The CEO must tell all his staff about the functions of the big house and a few staff are grumbling and jealous about it?"
- - anonymity
What if a CEO prefers to entertain her/his VVIPs at home than in the "office or hotel" because these two are public areas with many eager eyes and ears dropping which is not an ideal Location to discuss in-depth issues of sensitivity.
So the global management allows this CEO to occasionally use her/his home to engage the clients and build closer relationships with them; in a relaxed and in an informal settings.
Is this alternate use of the home an ideal location or not so, and is it not also a resting place for this family?
- - in progress - -
30/06/2023, 10:28 am - +Rama: Is he and Vivian renting out their own property to pay for the ridout properties!?
30/06/2023, 10:28 am - +Rama: Agree
30/06/2023, 10:28 am - +Rama: Amen. Hallelujah. Praise God
30/06/2023, 10:29 am - +Rama: They have their own interpretation of integrity!
30/06/2023, 10:31 am - +Rama: Their shoes are beyond the priciest brands!
30/06/2023, 10:32 am - +Rama: Jack Neo movies hit a wall!?
30/06/2023, 10:33 am - +Rama: Yes
30/06/2023, 10:33 am - +Rama: Agree
30/06/2023, 10:34 am - +Rama: Corruption is not always clear cut if actual.
30/06/2023, 10:35 am - +Kenneth Lee WM: We must remember that the main task of keeping singapore running is the thousands of civil servants, perm secs etc. Not the MPs.
The couple of hours MPs spend talking in parliament can affect all our lives and ruin singapore. Our MPs are now given the power to legalise anything they want. There is nothing citizens can do about it even if we don’t agree with it.
So I would pay them enough.
30/06/2023, 10:54 am - +Smiley face: "...history has shown that if not handled and communicated clearly it will manifest into the politics of "Envy & Reputation" ...
30/06/2023, 10:55 am - +lesli: <Media omitted>
30/06/2023, 11:42 am - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. After reading through most of the new articles on this bungalows case - I see no wrong in the Ministers rental of colonial bungalows.
They follow the procedures as laid out by SLA and has no privileges accorded to them.
2. They use their own money they earn to pay for the rent.
30/06/2023, 11:45 am - ☸️ Danny 心:
3. As for the Aljunied GRC mismanaged town council fund, the responsible MPs didn't follow the tender procedure - and misused the residents' taxpayers money to overpay by $33 million.
The gross negligence as custodian of taxpayer fund must be held accountable - as they are held guilty by the court. <This message was edited>
30/06/2023, 12:01 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
4. It is interesting to note that, people say whatever an office holders do, they must try to avoid doing to be at the high moral ground.
5. But in Singapore, whatever a person do, be it the man in the street, be it the Ministers, - anyone will have touch the law.
Eg. Buy cars, everyone needs to pay Coe.
Buy houses, be it HDB or private houses, everyone will have to abide by Singapore housing rules.
Go hospital, everyone have to pay similar fees etc.
So I don't understand must be at high moral ground and should avoid controversy pertaining to Singapore rules?
Everything we do touches the law - regardless of who you are - unless you don't want to live in Singapore.
So expect Ministers to live in vacuum is it - so that they will be forever in high moral ground?
I don't understand the logic?
Then wonder who will want to be Ministers and MPs?
If capable people stop serving in the public sector - then all Singaporeans will be in deep shit!
30/06/2023, 12:02 pm - +Frankie Wee: I thought SlA very rich why can’t upgrade the house @ Ridout Road?
This house very dirty and poor maintenance.
30/06/2023, 12:02 pm - +Rama: My conditions is accountability and with a full time MP
30/06/2023, 12:03 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Full time MP means, MP cannot be ministers, serve town council only?
30/06/2023, 12:04 pm - +Rama: Tweaked the current rules
30/06/2023, 12:04 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
So who become minister?
30/06/2023, 12:05 pm - +Uncle Law: Maybe town councils shd be run independently
30/06/2023, 12:06 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
By who if not elected MPs?
30/06/2023, 12:06 pm - +Rama: Follow American style! Pluck from industry
30/06/2023, 12:06 pm - +Rama: Definitely
30/06/2023, 12:06 pm - +Uncle Law: Y must be MP
30/06/2023, 12:07 pm - +Uncle Law: MP only sit at the meetings
30/06/2023, 12:07 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Is US the model we want to follow - with deep polarisation and division?
30/06/2023, 12:07 pm - +Uncle Law: On ground still done by managing agents and staffs
30/06/2023, 12:08 pm - +Rama: If part time MP has other income, allowance must be lowered
30/06/2023, 12:08 pm - +Uncle Law: HDB manages all HDB related issues
30/06/2023, 12:08 pm - +Uncle Law: JTC managed all industrial related
30/06/2023, 12:08 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Singapore is rank among the most well run in the world by world competitive body.
And now we are talking about emulating others when others adore us.
30/06/2023, 12:08 pm - +Uncle Law: Set up a board to manage all the towns
30/06/2023, 12:08 pm - +Uncle Law: Cleaniness
Maintenance
30/06/2023, 12:09 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Must as well no politicians only public service.
Anyone countries in the world do this?
30/06/2023, 12:09 pm - +Uncle Law: This way is fair to the people
30/06/2023, 12:09 pm - +Rama: There is a lot to read in between the lines and understand before emulating and following us
30/06/2023, 12:10 pm - +Uncle Law: All the funds can be better managed centrally
30/06/2023, 12:10 pm - +Uncle Law: Run in similar fashion as HDB
30/06/2023, 12:10 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Yes read between the lines - but our governance is one of the best in the world.
30/06/2023, 12:10 pm - +Uncle Law: HDB offices within towns
30/06/2023, 12:12 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
If no politicians only civil service - then Singapore no longer a democracy.
30/06/2023, 12:12 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Constitution need to rewrite.
30/06/2023, 12:13 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Then what do we call our country, not democracy, not communism?
How do other countries see us?
Who is our head of state?
Who appoint the civil servants?
30/06/2023, 12:13 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Then how is our government form?
What make up the government?
30/06/2023, 12:16 pm - +Sam: Town council must be run by the elected MP so thar there is accountability towards people that elect them.
30/06/2023, 12:16 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Agree.
30/06/2023, 12:17 pm - +Rama: Full time MP
30/06/2023, 12:18 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
In other countries, governors for individual states are elected.
They are local governers - essentially the same as MPs who run the town council.
30/06/2023, 12:18 pm - +Rama: So, let's do away with Mayors
30/06/2023, 12:19 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
What is the use of full time MPs when full time can still mismanaged $33 million.
30/06/2023, 12:21 pm - +Rama: Part time MP side income will be done way with
30/06/2023, 12:21 pm - +Uncle Law: Is the same what's the use of having your comments when it is bias towards one party
30/06/2023, 12:22 pm - +M L Kelvin Tan: I also realised that a lot of the jobs need HDB to approve. So what is the purpose of the town council, when HDB is still holding a lot of control over many matters?
30/06/2023, 12:22 pm - +Rama: Good point!
30/06/2023, 12:23 pm - +Uncle Law: Exactly
30/06/2023, 12:23 pm - +M L Kelvin Tan: Anyway, I doubt anybody will listen to our feedback, just like the Ridout case which we all know the outcome <This message was edited>
30/06/2023, 12:23 pm - +Uncle Law: Exactly
30/06/2023, 12:24 pm - +Rama: My sentiments exactly!
30/06/2023, 12:24 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
I don't bias against one party.
I only look at issues and comments objectively.
Pse highlights which part of my comments is bias?
30/06/2023, 12:26 pm - +Sam: HDB won't clean your rubbish, won't bother about anything outside your flat, won't help you to do pest control, cut your tree. The list can go on and on
30/06/2023, 12:27 pm - +Uncle Law: It's quite obvious
30/06/2023, 12:27 pm - +Uncle Law: No need to point out
30/06/2023, 12:28 pm - +Sam: I realised that the view can be biased simply because we do not have enough facts. Probably our government is doing poorly on disseminating facts or rather people just can't be bother to find out
30/06/2023, 12:30 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
For example, I agree with almost 90% with what the government does except plastic bags.
And I voice it.
I look at issues, not siding one party and against others.
I am only interested in assuring our national interest and national security is intact.
So far only PAP can guarantee these.
Not WP, not PSP, not other opposition parties.
30/06/2023, 12:31 pm - +Rama: Very poorly!
30/06/2023, 12:32 pm - +M L Kelvin Tan: But even then, it is quite blur as well. If mistakes are made by HDB on placing a lift shaft so close to the carpark that it is subject to damage from heavy vehicles, the TC will have to bear the consequences. Or the shopping mall is situated at a location not accessible to most residents and that it was quite costly to build, the TC will eventually have to bear it, no? <This message was edited>
30/06/2023, 12:33 pm - +Sam: TC will take over the maintenance once infrastructure work is completed
30/06/2023, 12:33 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Unfortunately, nea still decide to charge people for using plastic bags.
But give carbon credits to companies.
30/06/2023, 12:33 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
30/06/2023, 12:33 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
30/06/2023, 12:33 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
30/06/2023, 12:33 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
30/06/2023, 12:33 pm - +Sam:
Though TC do have their own infrastructure work, but their job mainly on maintenance
30/06/2023, 12:37 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
UN - the World body doing preliminary study to use plastic carbon credit - to regulate the use of plastic bags.
Many companies in favour of such approach including Singapore companies. <This message was edited>
30/06/2023, 12:38 pm - +Evangeline: On the topic in question, while the CPIB report has concluded that due process has been followed, I guess the question for me is - how are our public servants/ ministers thinking about the issue? Knowing that this could potentially pull down public sentiment. Coming away from this, people will question whether such a decision was made as a priority over winning the hearts and minds/ serving of citizens.
Fundamentally, what is the priority in their decision making? Personal comforts vs serving the public (which includes winning the hearts and minds of citizens). It is not as if these 2 ministers do not have comfortable abodes to begin with.
30/06/2023, 12:41 pm - +Timothy Low: I believe under LKY this kind of thing will not even happened in the first place
30/06/2023, 12:42 pm - +Smiley face: https://youtu.be/1KKG22aBgjU
30/06/2023, 12:42 pm - +Rama: Definitely
30/06/2023, 12:49 pm - +Timothy Low: I am glad NEA decided to charge for using plastic bags. Imagine the number of plastic bags being wasted every year.
30/06/2023, 12:49 pm - +Rama: Agree
30/06/2023, 12:50 pm - +Jimmy Chew: no need to complaint the people have chosen, so they need to live with their choices. Anyway the ground talk is "ownself check ownself"
30/06/2023, 12:58 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Curbing the use of plastic bags have many ways.
Doesn't mean charging is the best way.
UN if adopt carbon credit, will inject credit as a tradeable goods and plastic bags regulation become a competitiveness parameter - as oppose to mindless plastic bag charges.
Carbon credits are competitive elements - in which nea fail to see
30/06/2023, 1:00 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
And charging plastic bags come with political cost, unable to transform plastic bags usage into a tradeable carbon credits that boost Singapore competitiveness - not enough foresight.
30/06/2023, 1:03 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
That's, carbon credits bring Singapore companies revenue. Don't penalise people who use some as refuse bags.
Plastic bags charges penalise common people - and raise cost to common people.
So which one is better? <This message was edited>
30/06/2023, 1:06 pm - +Timothy Low: Charges is better. Same as GST yeah
30/06/2023, 1:06 pm - +Timothy Low: Bring in more revenue for the Government - why not?
30/06/2023, 1:08 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
If UN didn't see carbon credits with merits, companies didn't see carbon credits as a parameter that boost their revenue - they will not have supported the use of plastic carbon credits.
Just charge plastic bags used will do and make their product cost high - driving lower consumption and poorer business.
30/06/2023, 1:11 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
I support gst charges because it make fiscal budget sustainable.
And the gst support package ensure all lower and middle income not impacted by the gst.
In essence, it is the rich and upper income earners are the one that contributes significantly to the gst without driving out rich investors such as the wealth tax.
30/06/2023, 1:13 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
This will ensure our young workers and future descendants not inherited with big debts - when fiscal budget is not sustainable.
Some people admire US.
But look at US debt - $31 trillion. <This message was edited>
30/06/2023, 1:15 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Current generation, all people live on cash pile - but future generations - all will have to pay the enormous debt.
Does Singapore young generation want this?
30/06/2023, 1:36 pm - +Smiley face: All points to Growth and Potentials of any nation! No growth means people and wealth will outflow.(人财流出)
Two, given the huge debt of the US, will it affect the future and how about now? And how about China, India or the EU?
Three, high impact will yield higher returns and risks too, that's the current momentum of global economics!
30/06/2023, 1:37 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
That's carbon credits use "positive reinforcement" - an incentive to use less plastic by boosting business profits.
Only use sufficient plastic bags to bag refuse and not use excessive plastic bags that harm the environment for common people.
Charging plastic bags used is a "negative reinforcement" - it penalised people from using plastic bags - even to the extent of bagging home solid and liquid waste - resulting in hygiene problems.
On the other hands, forcing common people to fork out their own money to buy refuse plastic bags to bag home waste - double penalties.
30/06/2023, 1:37 pm - +Smiley face: 30 June, 2023
" Rite and Wrong?"
"There is no rite and there is no wrong; the rite proves it's rite and the wrong will prove it's all wrong...so what is rite and what is wrong?"
- - anonymity
The old school of thinking was to pay one's worthy effort for a tale of silver or less than, that's it! The modern thoughts of compensation is to pay according to the contribution of a person's effort in creating economics and non economics (包山包海) values to an organisation or larger circumstances; it's more than monetary rewards, it can also include a small stake in the organisation or free accomodations and other incidental costs of living; all are merits!
Are there real concerns with the new ways of compensation with exceptional circumstances (特殊情况) with it an individual or a group of individuals are continuously contributing to the betterment of the larger others. Wouldn't any enterprise do the same things to retain their valuable and contributing Talents?
Any wrong doings, that is Integrity, Honesty and Merits?
Or no issue at all!
- - in progress - -
30/06/2023, 1:46 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
In other words, carbon credits can be used not only in the confines of business and government - but also to individuals and households.
Carbon credits can be made exchangeable and traded among the business, government and even households and individuals.
Carbon credits essentially become a digital commodity that can be traded in the international exchange.
So why nea didn't consider this - but insist on charging 5 cents per plastic bag?
30/06/2023, 1:47 pm - +Timothy Low: Today's topic is not on plastic bag or carbon credits wor
30/06/2023, 1:48 pm - +Rama: 😳😄🤷♂️
30/06/2023, 1:48 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Else people say I bias.
I not bias.
Good I say good.
No good I say no good.
30/06/2023, 1:51 pm - +Smiley face: “We fear the future because we are wasting today.”
- - Mother Theresa
“I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples.”
- - Mother Theresa
30/06/2023, 1:54 pm - +Smiley face: https://youtu.be/pkwu7OegKzw
"A Talent,...!"
"It is better to have stallions, which we occasionally have to pull back, than to have donkeys you have to kick to move."
- - DPM Dr Goh Keng Swee
30/06/2023, 2:02 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
On 28 June 2023, the Prime Minister Office issued a statement on the rental of State Properties at Ridout Road by Minister K Shanmugam and Minister Vivian Balakrishnan. The statement included a report submitted by the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) and a seperate review conducted by Senior Minister Teo Chee Hean.
The CPIB Report found no evidence of corruption or criminal wrongdoing by Ministers Shanmugam and Balakrishnan. The Attorney-General’s Chambers (“AGC”) has agreed with CPIB’s findings and recommendations and directed that no further action to be taken as the facts do not disclose any offence.
💬 *What are your thoughts on CPIB's reports on the Ridout Road Rental Properties?*
In the CPIB report released on Wednesday (Jun 28) following a month-long review, the agency said it found no preferential treatment given to the ministers and their spouses.
There was also no disclosure of privileged information in the process of the rental transactions, and no evidence to suggest any abuse of position by the ministers for personal gain, said CPIB in the report.
The Attorney-General’s Chambers (AGC) has agreed with CPIB's findings and recommendations, it said in the report. AGC has directed that no further action be taken because "the facts do not disclose any offence".
👉🏼Statement from the Prime Minister's Office
https://www.pmo.gov.sg/Newsroom/Rental-of-State-Properties-at-Ridout-Road-by-Min-Shanmugam-and-Min-Vivian-Balakrishnan
👉🏼 Ridout Road bungalow rentals: CPIB finds no corruption or wrongdoing by Shanmugam, Vivian
https://str.sg/iUsq
👉🏼 Ridout Road bungalow rentals: CPIB finds no corruption or wrongdoing by Shanmugam, Vivian
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/ridout-road-shanmugam-vivian-balakrishnan-state-bungalows-cpib-investigations-3592041
30/06/2023, 2:09 pm - +Smiley face: "If we disappear, the world will carry on without us...modus vivendi."
- - FM Dr Vivian Balakrishnan @the conversation with the Council on Foreign Relations 16/6/23
30/06/2023, 2:10 pm - +Rama: That's obvious
30/06/2023, 2:11 pm - +Smiley face: To say that the entire population or Singaporeans don't read and don't have opinions over this"rental of public assets" issue isn't true...however,
30/06/2023, 2:12 pm - +Rama: Agree
30/06/2023, 2:14 pm - +Smiley face: Hi Andrew,
What's your guess, in % those who passionately care vs those least care about anything?
Thanks
30/06/2023, 2:17 pm - +Rama: Hard to pin point
30/06/2023, 2:18 pm - +Smiley face: What does your mind tell you?
30/06/2023, 2:26 pm - +Rama: Use percentage of elderly as a bench mark holding on to traditional values and way of life
30/06/2023, 2:27 pm - +Smiley face: Multiple choice:
10%
20%
30%
50%
80%
100%
What's your answer? Hint: no rite or wrong
30/06/2023, 2:27 pm - +Rama: 60%
30/06/2023, 2:28 pm - +Smiley face: Let's wait for the rest of our chat mates to answer...
30/06/2023, 2:28 pm - +Rama: Great
30/06/2023, 2:28 pm - +Smiley face: Let's do a poll...
30/06/2023, 2:29 pm - +Rama: Yes
30/06/2023, 2:30 pm - +Smiley face: Waiting....
30/06/2023, 2:31 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
This issue is more psychological issue rather than a perceived corruption issue.
1. The bungalow is a high class scarce commodity that only the very rich can afford.
2. High property prices make people unhappy. But yet it is perceived that the ministers can afford a 2nd property as recreation house.
3. The high pay the Ministers fetch - make people envy.
Hence the slightest slight by opposition to make the bungalow an issue - step on the nerves of common people - even though there are no wrongdoing.
4. Essentially this is a case of "have versus have not".
5. But to those upper income groups, such high living is no big deal - because they earn their worth.
Many rich are having such high living - except they are not public figures.
30/06/2023, 2:31 pm - +Smiley face: "Predictable or Unknown: The Process & The System?"
"Only If you can't describe what you are doing as a process, you don't know what you're doing."
- - W. Edwards Deming
30/06/2023, 2:32 pm - +Smiley face: Oh O..." The politics of Envy..."
30/06/2023, 2:34 pm - +Smiley face: ...which would be imploded out of the context and unfair to the rest of SG and the individuals involved...
30/06/2023, 2:34 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Most of my family members and friends not very interested in this issue - as they feel that there is no wrongdoing.
Opposition are making use of it to hype up election fever.
I am the only one commenting because I am in REACH group.
30/06/2023, 2:36 pm - +Smiley face: In your mind, what's the % that is interested?
Pls see the multiple choice and put your %.
Thanks.
30/06/2023, 2:37 pm - +Boon: TC serves the people. Were their communities asked to vote on their performance ? If not, shouldn’t the communities (not the grassroots leaders or PA related people) vote on their effectiveness?
30/06/2023, 2:38 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
But to be honest, ministers pay is the lowest among the top executive, CEOs and businessman.
I prefer to be the executive than be a minister.
No need to let public "talk 3 talk 4" in everything I do.
If many capable people think this way, Singapore will go into Nothingness and vanish from the atlas.
30/06/2023, 2:38 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
SIA CEO’s annual pay rises 88% to S$6.73 million.
Mr Goh Choon Phong’s annual remuneration for FY2022/23 comprises a base pay of S$1.14 million, bonuses of S$2.96 million as well as shares and benefits amounting to S$2.63 million.
Wow CEO so rich - richer than Ministers. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/business/singapore-airlines-ceo-goh-choon-phong-annual-pay-2022-23-rises-88-s673-million-3591986
30/06/2023, 2:39 pm - +Rama: That's why government has a hard time getting political offiice holders!
30/06/2023, 2:39 pm - +Smiley face: Yes!
30/06/2023, 2:39 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
SIA CEO pay 6 times that of Minister.
How he live and leisure - no one talk 3 talk 4.
30/06/2023, 2:40 pm - +Smiley face: Perhaps so...
30/06/2023, 2:44 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
That's why I prefer the president election to have a contest.
I want to see how Tharman perform versus a little known CEO.
The stature of a highly respected political figure versus an unknown CEO - how well he perform - will give an indication how PAP prepare its coming GE.
30/06/2023, 2:47 pm - +Rama: He will outshine them all!
30/06/2023, 2:51 pm - +Smiley face: 26 April, 2021
"Is life a fixed destiny or a flexible journey? " (fixed or flexible)
“Life is an opportunity, benefit from it. Life is beauty, admire it. Life is a dream, realize it.”
- - Mother Theresa
Scenario:
A poor man becomes an ordinary man...
A poor man became poorer...
A poor man becomes rich...
A rich man becomes an ordinary man
A rich man became poor...
A rich man becomes richer...
So, what do all the above possibilities in one's lifetime or life journey say?
It is a person's willpower to stand up every day doing meaningful things and looking for better results instead of resenting, lamenting or being complacent about one's life!
There is hope, it is in your hands! And stop comparing this to that...
- - in progress - -
30/06/2023, 2:52 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/dbs-chief-piyush-guptas-annual-salary-rises-132-s154-million-2022#:~:text=DBS%20chief%20Piyush%20Gupta%27s%202021,48%25%20to%20S%2413.6m
DBS CEO $15.4 million in 2022.
30/06/2023, 2:52 pm - +Rama: Ridiculous!
30/06/2023, 2:53 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
If ask these CEOs who fetch $15 million to $6 million to be ministers and get $1 million - you think they want?
30/06/2023, 2:55 pm - +Smiley face: Me and my car: Beauty queen and her McLaren
https://www.straitstimes.com/life/motoring/me-and-my-car-beauty-queen-and-her-mclaren
What’s in the boot? NOTHING...
30/06/2023, 2:55 pm - +Rama: Never!
30/06/2023, 2:56 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Then Singapore is doom.
Capable people don't want to be ministers.
30/06/2023, 2:56 pm - +Rama: Exactly!
30/06/2023, 2:56 pm - +Smiley face: Dr Tan See Leng gave up $13m to be our Min- MOM aka 龙哥...
30/06/2023, 2:57 pm - +Rama: Exception rather than the norm
30/06/2023, 2:58 pm - +Smiley face: There is always an exception...what if more come out to serve SG?
30/06/2023, 2:58 pm - +Smiley face: Min Edwin Tong
30/06/2023, 2:59 pm - +Smiley face: Min-Def Dr Ng Eng Hen
30/06/2023, 2:59 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
That's why not many selfless people like Tan see Leng, Shanmugam, Vivian - will give up their high pay jobs, become ministers and let people "talk 3 talk 4, point here point there".
30/06/2023, 3:00 pm - +Rama: Said his wife told him losing sgd50K a month by entering politics
30/06/2023, 3:00 pm - +Smiley face: It is the Will to Serve!
30/06/2023, 3:00 pm - +Smiley face: Sounds irrational? Isn't it?
30/06/2023, 3:01 pm - +Rama: To each their own interpretation
30/06/2023, 3:02 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Same go for Edwin tong and Ng eng Heng.
30/06/2023, 3:02 pm - +Smiley face: What if after all these saga, some Talents may not come out to serve?
30/06/2023, 3:03 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Then prepare for Singapore to go downhill.
30/06/2023, 3:03 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
This is what the oppositions and their supporters want mah?
30/06/2023, 3:03 pm - +Smiley face: The opposite is willing to serve for the next 57 years...?
30/06/2023, 3:04 pm - +Rama: Not possible at all even for one term!
30/06/2023, 3:04 pm - +Smiley face: Why?
30/06/2023, 3:05 pm - +Rama: Incompetent
30/06/2023, 3:05 pm - +Smiley face: If it happens, our REACH chat will open 24/7 to iron out things...?
30/06/2023, 3:05 pm - +Smiley face: One reason and there are few more too...
30/06/2023, 3:06 pm - +Rama: 😳😄🤦♂️🤷♂️
30/06/2023, 3:07 pm - +Rama: Enough
30/06/2023, 3:07 pm - +Smiley face: Experience, exposure...more
30/06/2023, 3:07 pm - +Rama: Much more
30/06/2023, 3:08 pm - +Smiley face: Is this an ethical or a moral issue or no issue at all! Because humans need to be guided and controlled in order to achieve a stable, a peaceful and a prosperous tomorrow! (control)
True or false? Let's think about it! (knows & knows & unknowns)
30/06/2023, 3:08 pm - +Smiley face: Steady hands...more
30/06/2023, 3:09 pm - +Smiley face: Continuation...more
30/06/2023, 3:09 pm - +Smiley face: Consensus...more
30/06/2023, 3:09 pm - +Rama: Our opposition does have the quality of a competent shadow cabinet
30/06/2023, 3:09 pm - +Smiley face: Collaboration...more
30/06/2023, 3:09 pm - +Smiley face: Lacking what?
30/06/2023, 3:10 pm - +Rama: Foresight
30/06/2023, 3:11 pm - +Smiley face: Yes ..more
30/06/2023, 3:12 pm - +Smiley face: " The young birdies not knowing the no fly zone..."
- - anonymity
30/06/2023, 3:13 pm - +Smiley face: "5 integers of capitalism are land, labor, capital, rich and poor....freedom of tangibles and intangibles?"
- - anonymity
30/06/2023, 3:14 pm - +Smiley face: "One rule of calibration is to objectively be a target of achievement. Collaboration is another subject that needs people's efforts in achieving a good outcome. How to calibrate using human as the 'object' to reach a higher order of tangibles? Is human a 'subject'? If so, what other innovative methods will do the job better?"
- - anonymity
30/06/2023, 3:15 pm - +Timothy Low: If remuneration is the only factor that will attract talents to enter politics, we are doomed
30/06/2023, 3:17 pm - +Smiley face: Yes! Great analogy!
How about Dr Goh Keng Swee and Dr EW Barker? They sacrificed their lifetime to serve, have we all forgotten or otherwise...?
30/06/2023, 3:18 pm - +Rama: Desire to serve like lky is no longer in their blood!
30/06/2023, 3:18 pm - +Timothy Low: Precisely, we shouldnt undermine their willingness to serve the nation, regardless PAP or opposition.
30/06/2023, 3:19 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Provided they are not subject to witch hunt.
30/06/2023, 3:28 pm - +Smiley face: So pessimistic?
30/06/2023, 3:29 pm - +Smiley face: Optimistic
30/06/2023, 3:32 pm - +Smiley face: <Media omitted>
30/06/2023, 3:38 pm - +Smiley face: Once the time is wasted, the opportunity goes with it... Aging follows and one starts blaming others or dooming one's fate to avoid the real cause...(don't waste time)
If one has only one life, might as well make the most of it, do something meaningful, don't think about success or money first! Do meaningful things or work hard...(process over success)
This person's life will not be worse off!
Graduated from a prestigious school is just the beginning... What is important is a person's attitude, character, and personality; all are the most important attributes!
How to communicate effectively with people and coexist with many people is the success story of one person! (character & attitude)
30/06/2023, 3:38 pm - +Rama: Yes
30/06/2023, 3:38 pm - +Smiley face: Wait...
30/06/2023, 3:40 pm - +Smiley face: <Media omitted>
30/06/2023, 4:00 pm - +KL: Btw nowadays scammer no longer have +65 in front
30/06/2023, 4:00 pm - +KL: Do take note
30/06/2023, 4:02 pm - +KL: Got time to think how to get cheaper rental please also solve the scammer issues with law also .
30/06/2023, 4:03 pm - +KL: Will log into scam shield it make me hard pain singaporean get conned
30/06/2023, 4:04 pm - +KL: This message was deleted
30/06/2023, 4:05 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
On 28 June 2023, the Prime Minister Office issued a statement on the rental of State Properties at Ridout Road by Minister K Shanmugam and Minister Vivian Balakrishnan. The statement included a report submitted by the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) and a seperate review conducted by Senior Minister Teo Chee Hean.
The CPIB Report found no evidence of corruption or criminal wrongdoing by Ministers Shanmugam and Balakrishnan. The Attorney-General’s Chambers (“AGC”) has agreed with CPIB’s findings and recommendations and directed that no further action to be taken as the facts do not disclose any offence.
💬 *What are your thoughts on CPIB's reports on the Ridout Road Rental Properties?*
In the CPIB report released on Wednesday (Jun 28) following a month-long review, the agency said it found no preferential treatment given to the ministers and their spouses.
There was also no disclosure of privileged information in the process of the rental transactions, and no evidence to suggest any abuse of position by the ministers for personal gain, said CPIB in the report.
The Attorney-General’s Chambers (AGC) has agreed with CPIB's findings and recommendations, it said in the report. AGC has directed that no further action be taken because "the facts do not disclose any offence".
👉🏼Statement from the Prime Minister's Office
https://www.pmo.gov.sg/Newsroom/Rental-of-State-Properties-at-Ridout-Road-by-Min-Shanmugam-and-Min-Vivian-Balakrishnan
👉🏼 Ridout Road bungalow rentals: CPIB finds no corruption or wrongdoing by Shanmugam, Vivian
https://str.sg/iUsq
👉🏼 Ridout Road bungalow rentals: CPIB finds no corruption or wrongdoing by Shanmugam, Vivian
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/ridout-road-shanmugam-vivian-balakrishnan-state-bungalows-cpib-investigations-3592041
30/06/2023, 4:06 pm - +Rama: Oh!
30/06/2023, 4:06 pm - +Rama: Wow!
30/06/2023, 4:06 pm - +Smiley face: <Media omitted>
30/06/2023, 4:07 pm - +Smiley face: Pick up an unknown call, the next minute your bank money all wipes out?
30/06/2023, 4:14 pm - +Frankie Wee: <Media omitted>
30/06/2023, 4:14 pm - +Frankie Wee: Just reminder never download app such unknown sources
30/06/2023, 4:14 pm - +KL: Thanks . Sorry to divert from topic .
30/06/2023, 4:15 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
My close friend comments:-
My only reaction to the reports is - why was the property vacant for so long?
Was this reflected in AGO audit?
Eg more publicity to promote, or lowering the rental rather than leaving them vacant?
I think people many have this question.
Good if sla can answer and squash any murmurs.
30/06/2023, 4:16 pm - +Rama: Don't hope for an open book findings!
30/06/2023, 4:40 pm - +Smiley face: Every property is unique, as to why some property remained unsold or not rented, that's unique to its own. It's normal !
30/06/2023, 4:42 pm - +Smiley face: "small mind talks about people, mediocre mind talks about events and big mind talks about ideas..."
- - Eleanor Roosevelt (Former First Lady 1933-1945)
30/06/2023, 4:45 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
The issue is opportunity cost.
When a vacant property is not rented out to gain revenue, the premium land is not earning revenue for the government and in fact cost will be incurred to maintain the property - eating into the fiscal budget.
If the vacant properties are rented out, the premium land is optimised and reaping revenue that enhance the government budget without incurring maintenance cost that eat into the fiscal budget.
30/06/2023, 4:46 pm - +Smiley face: Laylong lor...
30/06/2023, 4:46 pm - +Smiley face: Then comes the next lens of viciousness...why laylong so cheaply!
30/06/2023, 4:47 pm - +Smiley face: Chicken or eggs or ?
30/06/2023, 4:47 pm - +Rama: Which came first!?
30/06/2023, 4:49 pm - +Smiley face: The landlord, the house and the tenant...
Which comes first?
First thing First!
30/06/2023, 4:49 pm - +Rama: Landlord, House, Tenant
30/06/2023, 4:50 pm - +Smiley face: How about the recovery of repaired costs?
30/06/2023, 4:51 pm - +Rama: Through increase rental
30/06/2023, 4:52 pm - +Smiley face: First thing first, customer is King!
30/06/2023, 4:53 pm - +Rama: Depending on market conditions
30/06/2023, 4:55 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
So now come to the issue, if the bungalow has successfully rented out to the Ministers - who play a part in contributing to the government coffer - that in turn will help all Singaporeans - why opposition are making noise?
Why opposition supporters jump in to make noise when the money earn helps them?
30/06/2023, 4:56 pm - +Smiley face: Poking here and there lor...
30/06/2023, 4:58 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
That's why, this become a witch hunt - opposition got nothing better to contribute - only endow in talk 3 talk 4, point here point there - hyping up trivial issues to stoke their supporters emotions to score political points.
30/06/2023, 4:58 pm - +Rama: Yup
30/06/2023, 4:58 pm - +Smiley face: ...with the politics of "public figures" which surely the "opposite " would love to jargon and mix into their favorite syrup and stir the entire honeycomb!...
30/06/2023, 4:58 pm - +Rama: 😄
30/06/2023, 4:59 pm - +Smiley face: Satay men
30/06/2023, 4:59 pm - +Rama: With no sauce!
30/06/2023, 5:00 pm - +Smiley face: They create a smoke screen
30/06/2023, 5:00 pm - +Rama: Hollow in nature!
30/06/2023, 5:03 pm - +Smiley face: Let's be objective and understand deeper what is right and what can be improved upon going forward in all cases ...
30/06/2023, 5:04 pm - +Rama: Clarity without assumption
30/06/2023, 5:04 pm - +Smiley face: Yes Sir!
30/06/2023, 5:05 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
So opposition has successfully exploited the "small mindedness of common people", take advantage of jealousy and envy of common people by blowing up the "rich versus the common people" psychology.
And make it a perfect political storm.
At the end who suffers - when talents shy away from politics and refuse to serve as ministers.
It is people like us if Singapore go downhill - and the oppositions will have the last laugh because they have nothing to lose. <This message was edited>
30/06/2023, 5:05 pm - +Smiley face: ...whether it is an organisation, a corporation or an individual; clarity and carefulness in dealing throughout the entire process from the starting point to the end of a transaction...
30/06/2023, 5:06 pm - +Smiley face: Self implode...
30/06/2023, 5:06 pm - +Rama: Just like the titan!
30/06/2023, 5:08 pm - +Smiley face: "Don't hit too hard, a government that works very hard to do what is in the interest of the people and it has a good track record,...and don't hit it too hard!"
- - DPM Tharman Shanmugaratnam @ 45th St. Gallen Symposium (2015)
30/06/2023, 5:11 pm - +Smiley face: "Trust and the Challenges of the Generational Gaps"
Society (time & gaps)?
We are basically different generations in one compact to start with; the previous, the present and the new millennials!
Society itself is full of flaws that makes us as human a divest species of opinions and views of all things under the sun! (a political beings?)
What effects or impacts will it bring to the present moment; that is a diversity of needs and wants and each individual has its own self interest at heart? These millions of lives (billions) of aspirations will traject the policies of economic, political, military and last but not least, to a different degree of social chaos and disintegrations, society to society, developing nations to the developed nations!
How can a society come as one to truly make inclusiveness a reality or it may be an impossible task that is beyond the reality of today's and tomorrow's society?
30/06/2023, 5:30 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
So opposition specifically like to use the term "ownself check ownself" to gain support and political mileage.
And some of their gullible supporters sing along.
Now, we can see that opposition are exploiting the Bungalow issue to "we ownself slap ownself" - when talents stop entering politics to serve as ministers.
We stupid right?
Let opposition play us out? <This message was edited>
30/06/2023, 5:38 pm - +Timothy Low: Haha but it’s true that now it’s “own self check own self”
30/06/2023, 5:41 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
We ownself check ownself.
And the conclusion, we have been gullible - kenna exploited by the oppositions.
30/06/2023, 5:42 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Or rather we ownself slap ownself.
And quietly say "why we so stupid". <This message was edited>
30/06/2023, 5:49 pm - +Timothy Low: Actually this saga just proves that everyone in politics has to be careful and not give the public any misconception on misuse of authority and power. As the saying goes “with great power comes great responsibilities”.
Without the opposition exposing this, this will still be kept in the dark. And I believe both the ruling party and oppositions should gain some lessons learnt from this incident. So it’s not bad thing after all
30/06/2023, 5:50 pm - +Rama: Agree
30/06/2023, 5:51 pm - +Timothy Low: So don’t be so pessimistic, no one can be above reproach and above the law after all
30/06/2023, 5:57 pm - +Rama: Temasek-backed Tessa Therapeutics to cease operations after failure to raise funding
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/startups-tech/startups/temasek-backed-tessa-therapeutics-cease-operations-after-failure-raise
30/06/2023, 5:59 pm - +Stella: Singapore authorities have urgently introduced SingPass face verification for CPF members to log in to their account, after a spate of Android malware scams.
How to spot the scam: https://cna.asia/3r57Sqn
30/06/2023, 6:01 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
On 28 June 2023, the Prime Minister Office issued a statement on the rental of State Properties at Ridout Road by Minister K Shanmugam and Minister Vivian Balakrishnan. The statement included a report submitted by the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB) and a seperate review conducted by Senior Minister Teo Chee Hean.
The CPIB Report found no evidence of corruption or criminal wrongdoing by Ministers Shanmugam and Balakrishnan. The Attorney-General’s Chambers (“AGC”) has agreed with CPIB’s findings and recommendations and directed that no further action to be taken as the facts do not disclose any offence.
💬 *What are your thoughts on CPIB's reports on the Ridout Road Rental Properties?*
In the CPIB report released on Wednesday (Jun 28) following a month-long review, the agency said it found no preferential treatment given to the ministers and their spouses.
There was also no disclosure of privileged information in the process of the rental transactions, and no evidence to suggest any abuse of position by the ministers for personal gain, said CPIB in the report.
The Attorney-General’s Chambers (AGC) has agreed with CPIB's findings and recommendations, it said in the report. AGC has directed that no further action be taken because "the facts do not disclose any offence".
👉🏼Statement from the Prime Minister's Office
https://www.pmo.gov.sg/Newsroom/Rental-of-State-Properties-at-Ridout-Road-by-Min-Shanmugam-and-Min-Vivian-Balakrishnan
👉🏼 Ridout Road bungalow rentals: CPIB finds no corruption or wrongdoing by Shanmugam, Vivian
https://str.sg/iUsq
👉🏼 Ridout Road bungalow rentals: CPIB finds no corruption or wrongdoing by Shanmugam, Vivian
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/ridout-road-shanmugam-vivian-balakrishnan-state-bungalows-cpib-investigations-3592041
30/06/2023, 6:03 pm - +Stella: As long as our Ministers can protect our $ from scammers, they deserve high salary, huge house , etc... It is devastating to lose life savings.
30/06/2023, 6:13 pm - +TD: They can stay where they want. They can afford it.
30/06/2023, 6:14 pm - +Rama: Live modestly. Huge salary is debatable
30/06/2023, 6:25 pm - +Stella: Having good ministers are like having a good insurance policy. They protect the interest of the ordinary people. I absolutely need my ministers to be on top of the game against scammers.
30/06/2023, 6:26 pm - +Stella: Cannot pay peanuts then get monkeys
30/06/2023, 6:26 pm - +Rama: Agree on first point. As for protecting interest of the ordinary people, more understanding is needed. Thirdly, definitely
30/06/2023, 6:27 pm - +Rama: Monkeys are in the opposition indefinitely
30/06/2023, 6:28 pm - +Smiley face: 29 June, 2023
"Circumstances, Communicates and Leadership?"
".. seizing the moment of circumstances, he persuaded millions life and led the people away from adversities..."
- - anonymity
For Lee Kuan Yew, he became worldly known as a great leader who was also a great communicator too!
环境、沟通和领导力？
" 他抓住时机，劝说万生，带领人民脱离困境。"
对于李光耀来说，他被世人称为伟大的领袖，同时也是伟大的沟通者！
30/06/2023, 6:33 pm - +Smiley face: Thanks, Noraini!
Any input from yourself, please do so...
Thanks!
30/06/2023, 6:51 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
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30/06/2023, 6:58 pm - +Smiley face: 30 June, 2023
"Predictable or Unknown: The Process & The System?"
"Only If you can't describe what you are doing as a process, you don't know what you're doing."
- - W. Edwards Deming
To say that the entire population or Singaporeans don't read and don't have opinions over this"rental of public assets" issue isn't true.
The noise:
If we analyse it deeper, perhaps 20-25% of this population will have their say, they do care about the report and they will closely watch the coming Parliamentarians debate over this sensitivity of rights and wrongs. Importantly, history has shown that if not handled and communicated clearly will manifest into a politics of "Envy & Reputation" which would be imploded out of the context and unfair to the rest of SG and the individuals involved.
So unless the procedures and processes are not clear including the system of bidding in this case is about rental of public assets to private individuals. The keypoint here is private individuals and not to be mixed with the politics of "public figures" which surely the "opposite " would love to jargon and mix into their favorite syrup and stir the entire honeycomb!
Let's be objective and understand deeper what is right and what can be improved upon going forward in all cases when public goods or assets or services are involved with all counter parties whether it is an organisation, a corporation or an individual; clarity and carefulness in dealing throughout the entire process from the starting point to the end of a transaction; it shall be non-issue at all !
Afterwords:
"It is better to have stallions, which we occasionally have to pull back, than to have donkeys you have to kick to move."
- - DPM Dr Goh Keng Swee
Predicting the unknown; an exceptional communicator and his team members!
https://youtu.be/pkwu7OegKzw
30/06/2023, 7:01 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
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Goodnight!
Megan 😊
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