REACH 408 - What are your views on current efforts to support people with disabilities (PWDs) in finding employment?
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07 Nov 2022 (10am - 7pm)
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[10:00 am, 07/11/2022] +REACH: ๐ข Topic ๐ข
At a masterclass on disability-inclusive hiring at the Istana on 2 November 2022, President Halimah Yacob said that employers can do more to open up job opportunities in sectors other than food and beverage (F&B), hotel or kitchens. While there have been increases in hiring in the hospitality and F&B sectors, sectors such as tech, logistics and healthcare have only started opening up to hiring people with disabilities.
๐ฌ What are your views on current efforts to support people with disabilities (PWDs) in finding employment?
Speaking at the event, Madam Halimah also highlighted that PWDs may require adjustments such as assistive technologies to help workers with disabilities in their jobs, adding that such adjustments are not costly and that there are government schemes to help employers put them in place. Madam Halimah also noted that there is government funding support for employers of PWDs such as wage offsets of up to 30% through the Enabling Employment Credit for each Singaporean employee with disability earning below $4000 a month.
Efforts to help PWDs fall within the larger framework of the Enabling Masterplan 2030 (EMP 2030), which is a road map released in August 2022 to support persons with disabilities and enable them to contribute to society. The road map outlines the aim of having 40% of working-age PWDs employed by 2030, up from about 30% between 2020 and 2021.
In addition to the stated aim, EMP2030 also laid out initiatives for employers that would move the country towards this goal. Most notably, it recommended a task force to design alternative employment models for PWDs like micro jobs and temporary tasks. This task force will also attempt to increase the number of organisations that commit to being inclusive through the Enabling Mark, which recognizes organisations that have inclusive practices for PWDs and the Enabling Employment Pledge, whereby employers signal their commitment to support PWDs at work.
๐๐ป https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/more-sectors-should-hire-people-with-disabilities-president-halimah
๐๐ป https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/more-interest-in-hiring-people-with-disabilities-in-sectors-facing-manpower-crunch
๐๐ป https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-aims-to-have-40-per-cent-of-working-age-persons-with-disabilities-employed-by-2030
๐๐ป https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/8-highlights-from-enabling-masterplan-2030-to-empower-persons-with-disabilities
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[10:05 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: In view of the declining birthrate and the fact every worker matters, a all out effort to include and accommodate people with different abilities in the local workforce is of paramount importance.
[10:07 am, 07/11/2022] +Uncle Law: Ministries should have vacancy that are suitable for PWDs.
[10:07 am, 07/11/2022] +Uncle Law: Public service can consider opening up more roles and appointments for them
[10:08 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[10:08 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[10:09 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Same goes for statutory boards and government linked companies
[10:10 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Does NTUC accommodate person with different abilities in their staff across all unions!?
[10:16 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: The same should apply to the various uniform services and law enforcement agencies
[10:17 am, 07/11/2022] +SL: Mom statistics (9-mar) show 30.1% pwd employed in 2018. 66.2% are out of the labour market, and 3.8% are unemployed. This 70% is a huge potential labor force, and society should do its part to accept them. Stigmatization and employer doubt is a critical areas we need to tackle
[10:17 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Snec/sme/various clan associations should give input on their inclusion numbers
[10:19 am, 07/11/2022] +SL: According to the statistic in 2018, 52% of the 30.1% employed are in community industry (23.1%), f&b industry (9.7%), professional service (9.6%) and manufacturing (9.3%)
[10:21 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: 7 November, 2022
To: Our Madam President, Our Distinguished Leaders and All Honorable Members
Good morning everyone!
"Rethinking what is life and living?"
"It is not what you have, it is what you do with what you have to the fullest! Life is not about success, fame or full of money!"
- - anonymous
Can we do better for our vulnerable handicapped fellowmen?
Yes (Boleh, ๅฏ)!
Yes, can Workfare (or purpose created one) pays the CPF portion of employer? It is to further encourage organisation whether is for profits or not, to rethink and employ our handicapped to SIMPLE jobs ahead of the 2030 and breakthrough that 40% barrier!
Short of saying, "give them a lifetime chance to STAND UP and FEEL that they are also RESPECTED for SIMPLE tasks too! Let's creat…
[10:21 am, 07/11/2022] +SL: Clan Organisation, ngo, charity, religious org all should work together to manage this , it is a humanity topic that everyone should do our part
[10:21 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[10:22 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: So the phrase - all stakeholders, carries a wide meaning
[10:26 am, 07/11/2022] +SL: Everyone I am referring to, these organisations, can take the lead to let the ball start rolling, we are all born equal and we should not think pwd is unable to achieve what we do.
[10:27 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Agree
[10:32 am, 07/11/2022] +SL: Equality is at the heart of human rights, ohchr in their publisher always says that statement. I believe we, humanity, should recommend to govt what we can do for pwd from all aspects of life, together with them building this nation for prosperous.
[10:33 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[10:44 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: One vital equaliser when employing our vulnerable handicapped that is PRODUCTIVITY!
We must embrace tolerance in the workplace, how activities are done and what is the end results.
Organisations must be WILLING to accept and adapt to the norms and the abnormal outcomes. This case a handicapped worker at work!
[10:45 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: This needs in depth probing
[10:49 am, 07/11/2022] +SL: How can the community help pwd increase their productivity to a higher reasonable rate so that employers can no longer use productivity as a reason to reject pwd candidates?
[10:49 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: We have solutions, that is all of us today to brainstorm as much as time permits to come up with purposeful guild lines to help our PWDs fellowmen to soft land into the working environment!
In previous chats, there was pointers raised on thinking slow and thinking fast. Pls relook and think deeper as to how to derive solutions out of CONSTRAINTS. Today is about PWD and job opportunities.
How to deal and solve these CONSTRAINTS, that will be a winning formula!
[10:50 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Hi SL,
Thank you for supporting! Kudos to you!
Thank you!
[10:50 am, 07/11/2022] +SL: Is the PWD hiring and sustainable rate form part of the ESG competition for listed company?
[10:51 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: ESG to be frank not many company can do it at a sustainable way… Atleast resource not allocated well enough to do real impact
[10:51 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Two separate paradigms.
The proper ESG comes with KPI that perhaps our PWDs could at most chip in partially.
Pls have slacks with our PWDs.
[10:53 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Let me check with my friend in PWD employment.. lol he will have more direct feedback
[10:55 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Ken,
Well Said!
This Zerolised CO is a work in progress!
Many organisations are still figuring out the unknowns least the big worry of business costs?
Do we need expertise and or employ ESG expertise to reformulate one organisation and follow through this green path? Yes!
This ESG protocol, it is at an infancy stage especially for all SMEs.
[10:55 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Thank you, Ken for researching!
So important! Thank you!
[10:55 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: MNC also not possible… SME lol… joke arh? Earn money more important
[10:56 am, 07/11/2022] +SL: Yeah, I am a bit of knowing the possible outcome. I feel sad that ESG is a hot topic everywhere in the business world, and if ESG is also unable to help in the pwd topic, what is the carrot for businesses to hire pad?
[10:56 am, 07/11/2022] +SL: Pwd*
[10:56 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: I know him personally… have been facing employment issue. Can’t help much. Especially if their education is not high
[10:57 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: If MNC can do it well and sustainable and profitable yes it will eventually happen.
[10:57 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: But for SME to adopt early.. it is kinda hard unless is profitable to do it. If not effort waste in doing ESG. At the expense of profit, I don’t think is possible.
[10:58 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Bigger MNC with global footprints are into this ESG.
They can afford a sustainable Dept and a Chief Sustainability Officer (CSO) too!
It's real and really happening now!
[10:59 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Business costs, one tall order!
[11:00 am, 07/11/2022] +SL: I thought the S in ESG referring to social responsibility, which included the disability includiness, all are withinnthe CSR framework? ๐ค
[11:00 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Let's quickly SECURE our PWDs prior to the ESG set foot into our world...?
[11:00 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Like environmental, yes done well. As it reduces cost overall. Makes sense.
Reduce power usage, water usage etc. reduce and rethink difference sources.
F&b don’t give straw, possible cause reduced cost. Only some make changes like MacDonald Changes it’s cap so we can still drink properly. Not like the rest remove and say for environmental ๐คฃ is a joke
[11:00 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Hi SL, great insights!
Thank you!
[11:01 am, 07/11/2022] +SL: I don't see disability inclusiveness different from ESG, disability inclusion improved corporate performance I would say
[11:02 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: When employing PWDs, it has to be PURPOSE built-in.
Specialised job scopes with little KPI or better still, NON!
[11:03 am, 07/11/2022] +SL: I hope I m not advance in this frontier ๐appologies if I m
[11:03 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: That is, if our policymakers introduce CREDIT POINTS for hiring PWDs, that's one enablers?
[11:03 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: It’s not easy, as it might reduce efficiency. For some roles.
Of course companies had tried their best. Like MOS and KFC we seen them employed staff with certain disabilities. But at the expense of service standard ๐
Better work need to be done to improve the work suitable for them. Which still lacking sometimes.
[11:04 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: We seen during covid SMRT also hire some PWDs at the entrance of some major station to provide direction guide. But seems like no more… is it because not effective?
[11:04 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Hi SL, every idea will build MORE ideas till breakthrough comes, that's a solution to our CONSTRAINTS and helping our PWDs to gain footings into society, more meaningful!
Thank you again!
[11:05 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Another case is a down syndrome staff being scolded loudly by his supervisor in front of the store manager who kept quiet with customers watching!
[11:05 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Good deeds....when good intent happens, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER!
[11:05 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Provide jobs also need to give meaningful ones as well… they have feelings as well
[11:06 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Burger King outlet
[11:06 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: That’s quite sad… but I do see some improve overtime. KFC in boon Keng a kid I seen him improve a lot of time
[11:06 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Embrace EMPATHY!
ONLY IF one is mentally challenged, one will never knows the pain and sadness this human has to troll his or her entire lifespan!
Such intolerances should be addressed!
[11:06 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[11:07 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Andrew, we think alike, thank you again!
[11:07 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Supervisors has added stress and might not be trained enough to handle staff with additional training and supervision required
[11:07 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: No public update from store hq
[11:07 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Most welcome
[11:07 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Then why appear to accommodate!?
[11:07 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Again, THROW THAT PRODUCTIVE DEMONS OUT OF THE CORPORATE WINDOWS!
[11:07 am, 07/11/2022] +KL: Lol I think to change ppl
[11:07 am, 07/11/2022] +KL: set should change ppl
[11:07 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[11:08 am, 07/11/2022] +KL: yesterday I went Chinatown a car block the traffic light and ppl with wheelchair can’t not pass
[11:08 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Productive and meaningful… in order for sustainable
[11:08 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Sad!
[11:08 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Not such thing as for charity. Not all appreciates it
[11:08 am, 07/11/2022] +KL: this show how evil ppl are towards unfortunat ppl
[11:08 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: The will and willingness to do GOOD!
ANYTHING ELSE, SIMPLY DOESN'T MATTER!
UNLESS ONE STARTS COUNTING!
[11:08 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Agree
[11:09 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Lack of empathy and PURPOSEFUL EDUCATION!
[11:09 am, 07/11/2022] +KL: U want see the picture ? I have sent it to LTA / SPF and reach
[11:09 am, 07/11/2022] +KL: Last time I sent they ask me to login to report as a police case .
[11:10 am, 07/11/2022] +KL: Omg so no case no report ?
[11:10 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: An abled human besides good EDUCATION, he or she must posses the following:
Intellectual, Energy and a good and positive personality!
All 3 must be the ingredient of a successful human!
Why personality matters most? Let's think deeper!
[11:11 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: I once was coming down the escalator together serangoon mrt and good looking young lady in a wheelchair almost ran over my leg! The look on her face showed frustration at being handicapped!
[11:11 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[11:11 am, 07/11/2022] +KL: Chinatown to the Sheng siong area very cramp
[11:11 am, 07/11/2022] +KL: really wanted to share the photo here
[11:12 am, 07/11/2022] +KL: But wait ppl say I troll and pofma
[11:13 am, 07/11/2022] +KL: ๐ justice hard to carry out
[11:13 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Thank you Andrew!
Answer: you don't want to employ a lousy person with questionable personality or worse character?
Is that how an organisation select or award scholarship to deserving youth or young adults?
[11:13 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Empathy and charity is different. Just sharing.
I grow up with one taking care of him for 3 years during school time.
[11:13 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: You are a treasure of perseverance
[11:13 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Overly charity sometimes… makes them feel really bad.
[11:14 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: I wonder on the selection process
[11:14 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: True
[11:14 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Not easy.. but somehow I take it as a mission ๐
[11:14 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Your input is appreciated
[11:15 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: I don’t feel is extra work. To me just lending a hand.
I am from same school as yip pin Xiu. My friend was the first physical challenge student in school with program to accommodate them.
[11:16 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Wow
[11:16 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Handicap friendly school
[11:16 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Lovely
[11:16 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: When lift is down lol… try carry 4 levels
[11:16 am, 07/11/2022] +Timothy Weerasekera: I have a more "upstream" contribution.
How is Singapore going to become a more inclusive society when we keep killing generations of people with disabilities like down syndrome through abortion?
The impetus for creating pathways for success for those of us with special needs must have as its precondition enough people to necessitate those pathways. But as a culture we actively see these precious people, often as liabilities and burdens to be catered to, rather than individual lives of incredible potential.
Not having these diverse people among us makes them more and more invisible and, we’ll always be in an out-of-sight out-of-mind mode where they and their families will have to struggle by themselves.
Perhaps as we consider employment pathways, we could…
[11:16 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: ๐คฃ lucky my friend was light.. due to CP
[11:16 am, 07/11/2022] +Linda Seng: Agreed
[11:17 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Society these days leave Charity to settle that empathy jobs!
Isn't it true?
The world has been drown with success and forbid failures!
From MSM, it showed success over failure?
It is that FAILED story that is the MOST important lesson for humanity! Isn't it or realistically continue to embrace the STRONGER and charity the weak ones?
Where is dignity, how about respect and finally SELF CONFIDENCE?
Are all the above the hard truths or else?
[11:17 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: I know that feeling when walking up!
[11:18 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Creating meaningful jobs.. are not easy. Redesigning and management supportive to get it done.
[11:20 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: The will and willingness to Embrace inclusiveness...
All jobs can be PURPOSE created!
How about hiring a blind person to answer calls and as a receptionist?
Will it become a failed job scope?
[11:20 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Let's hear openly from employers who are not willing or dead set against employing people with different abilities. Is it fear, embarrassment, cost or pressure from able bodied employees!?
[11:20 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Reality bites...that productivity and efficiency in play!
[11:21 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Still need to check the computers for informations ๐ training also required to give them the information they required to provide to customer
[11:21 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Receptionist no longer just simple desk jobs
[11:22 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Have a buddy who can SEE and do the impossibles!
It REALLY doesn't matter...
[11:22 am, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Incentives to hire is very low… unless the person have a mission to make it happen. Who will risk their job for someone might or might not workout
[11:23 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Where is empathy, how about respect, and importantly self CONFIDENCE to all PWDs?
[11:24 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: STARTS with CPF borne by Workfare or a purpose created entity to help employers to hire and adapt to changes!
Btw, change is a big disruption to all! Willing or not willing?
[11:32 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Good point
[11:33 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Point for thought
[11:34 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Peer pressure can be a severe setback!
[11:39 am, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: 7 November, 2022
"What a Great Lunch with You"
Uncommon Sense?
How to start Conditioning people to see our PWDs are ok and able people?
Ms Sumiko Tan or Ms Grace Ho, both are established household names and well know ST journalists. The duo have strong readerships/followings within their reach and access! Are there similar good journalists in the Chinese, Malay and Tamil newspapers, please rope them in too!
How about interviewing our PWDs whom are presently employed?
To show society at large that it is chill and cool to engage our PWDs to the workplace!
What are theirs challenges and failures along their life paths and importantly who gave them the inspirations and who willingingly employed them? And what were their feelings now and then? Anymore imp…
[11:44 am, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[0:15 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: 7 November, 2022
Employer Perspectives?
Employing PWD can be a lifetime commitment to an organisation? Why so?
Simply, the PWDs don't quit unless otherwise for whatsoever reasons because they are socially immobile to begin with.
Hired and fired a PWD, are there existing labor laws to protect them and are these rules FAIR to both employer/employee with disabilities?
How and when situation arises to let go a PWD? What are the follow up interventions to find another job for her/him?
Afterwords:
The future?
An aging workforce, soon many workers will age and what if some becoming disabled as age passed on. How, what and where helps will arrive for such unfortunate aging seniors?
- - in progress - -
[0:17 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: So hard to hire my friend 2.2k also cannot hire people to do. Cause computer and stuff… they thought just seat there do nothing but answer call ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[0:18 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Arrange cab, sometimes help with conference etc
[0:18 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Only during the time when police wear shorts!
[0:18 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: If me, no issue
[0:20 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Lol young too low pay no prospect, old cannot handle ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[0:20 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: So hard to hire receptionist also
[0:20 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: For those with PWD, are employers distant from WSQ certification when considering employment!?
[0:38 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Are there SkillsFuture courses catered to PWDs?
[0:38 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Would be great to hear
[0:47 pm, 07/11/2022] +65 9617 1577: Maybe call center or help desk rather than receptionist?
[0:47 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Possibly
[0:50 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Good idea, Hi Poh. Thanks!
[0:51 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Let's find More jobs and fittings for our PWDs...
[0:51 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[0:54 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Let's STARTS our creativity in searching for simple tasks...
Eliminate these constraints of job scopes first!
[0:55 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: So long a disabled person is not mentally unable...has hand or leg will do!
That simple!
[0:56 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Use simplicity in solving complex constraints!
[0:58 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Sensible and logical approach.
It will enable employer and employees (PWDs) to engage and placement of jobs never existed but created by ALL OF US!
ONE FOR ALL AND ALL FOR ONE!
[1:01 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Exactly
[1:02 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Musketeers!
[1:02 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: "Never says it's impossible, think all possibilities and perhaps that is an ideal life that wakes up everyday with purposes and most of all, it must be meaningful!"
- - anonymous
[1:04 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Amazing guy this anonymous!
[1:05 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Solving pain and sadness, that is most meaningful to all abled lifes!
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[1:05 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Touche
[1:07 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: That's why is anonymous!
Hero than egoistic!
We need many heros and heroines!
In search of the champion employers, the queens and the kings of this PWDs!
That's meaningful, any other "this and that" equals unwilling!
[1:08 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: ๐๐๐
[1:08 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: What if our PWDs also belonging to the LWW?
[1:12 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Giving TAX benefits to company that hires PWD?
[1:13 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: To renovate physical space accommodate pwd
[1:23 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: 7 November, 2022
FIRST by creating or crafting never seen before jobs and unique roles for PWDs.
Next is to identify physical infrastructure from lifts, stairs, toilet, work desk and space to emergency exits.
Follow by policies to encourage more employment. Tax benefits for renovations from landlord to tenants. How to qualify and the quantify amount to help it succeed?
- - in progress - -
[1:25 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: 31 October, 2022
Are you Gifted or not?
"Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future."
- - John F. Kennedy
From An Old Sage!
Socrates said that "awakening knowledge is far more powerful than implanting it."
Socrates strongly believed,"that ignorance of knowledge does not rule out the capacities to reason and finally to understand principles of a subject."
Modernity?
One person is successful or smarter than the next person?
A person's intelligence and abilities, is it in-born or perhaps education or maybe diligent or either one attribute or two attributes or all three?
The reality is, the trains of society will never wait for people and often enough it has no tolerance for those whom are sl…
[1:39 pm, 07/11/2022] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Social Objectives
Supporting PWDs disability to find employment will meet the following objectives:-
a. PWD disabled can find meaningful jobs to feed themselves and for their families - providing them a sense of self-worth and self-sustainability.
b. Society burden or tax burden to provide financial assistance to disable persons if they are unemployed will be alleviated.
c. Business facing labor shortage - will have a new source of labor supply to tap on.
Also business who have social objective in mind to help the less fortunate - will have the opportunity to provide employment to the PWDs.
d. It is an inclusive policy to actively embrace the disabled group so that they will not be neglected - a good way to win support for the Government.
[1:40 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: An inclusive society
[1:44 pm, 07/11/2022] +Grace: I know many retirees who are quite bored and still v productive - they can be part of the workforce (new programmes/tracks for them?)
[1:44 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Likewise
[1:45 pm, 07/11/2022] +Grace: Many disabled are "differently abled" - they may face struggles w/ mobility but some can work from online?
[1:45 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: An area to be tackled
[1:50 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: There is… my friend work as backend for recruitment company
[1:51 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Differently abled but the job opportunities if they can apply not so clear. But as WFH becomes a norm. Maybe more options available for them I guess
[1:52 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: One enablers, WFM.
[1:53 pm, 07/11/2022] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
My close friend comments:-
Need more in depth understanding on the type of disability and what jobs they are suitable for.
Visual handicap and mobility handicap are very different.
[1:54 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Is there an ongoing study!?
[1:54 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Let's build models and matrix, the varieties of challenges.
Starting with wheel chair bound and blind.
[1:55 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Try Europe or US for data.
[1:55 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Not really.. the thing is how many of them out there we don’t even know the figures…
[1:55 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: If preparing jobs for those people are there enough to go around
[1:56 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Social services have their jobs to be done on this.
[1:56 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Country is not big… is a chicken and egg problem. But of course we can find able body to fill if they have options. But will it be too simple for able body ๐
[1:56 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Anyone wish to start a WORLD DISABLED JOBS SITE cum organisation?
Unique opportunity and uniquely SINGAPORE too!
[1:57 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: HWA do help them find jobs…
[1:57 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: And mainly low level jobs… high level ones really is apply like normal people
[1:57 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: 3 cheers!
[1:57 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Passive or active mode?
[1:57 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: I know and executive from SingTel. So do we give them special rights? Or treatment as normal?
[1:58 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: An”
[1:58 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Actions matter most!
The intellect, the energy and the will!
[1:58 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Low level jobs need to improvise and upskill
[1:59 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: We should make exceptions and accept as norm to accommodate
[2:01 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: We got 2018 figure.. extrapolation may help
[2:02 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: 2018 key figure I means
[2:02 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Sometimes they might consider.. if they can handle stress not everyone is exposed to them and understand them well.
To me give them equal opportunity for employment is good. Extra can be done if they prepare to hire. Or even grants to provide company to make job redesigning or accessibility.
[2:03 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: How many people work with people with physical challenges over long period?
[2:04 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: I did for few years.
[2:05 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: The consideration is a lot… not simple as just giving them the job.
Are we paying them extra or their limitation to reduce pay?
How will other colleague compare if given same pay but work have to be given to able body due to their limitations…
Not easy for any managers that haven’t done it before
[2:05 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: Some of them are brilliant
[2:05 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Agree
[2:06 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: This is a tough question for many managers to consider
[2:06 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Even in school my classmate don’t ask him out due to Accessibility issues… what more if we work?
[2:07 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Someone have to prepare to send him home after that or he has to find his way coming over or back
[2:07 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Society must make the effort to accommodate inclusively
[2:08 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: We are humans…. Be frank… not easy
[2:08 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Once or twice possible
[2:08 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: For your whole work life we don’t nanny the whole way
[2:08 pm, 07/11/2022] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Challenges of providing employment for PWDs and solutions need to overcome them
1. However, for business to provide jobs for the PWDs disabled, there will be challenges that will need to overcome :-
a. Business must be confident of doing well - before it have the buffer to help the PWD disabled by providing jobs.
A struggling business with problem making end meet - will have problem providing jobs for the disabled to fulfil the social objective.
b. Business must have a strong sense of helping the less fortunate - inherently ingrained in their corporate culture. Because business no matter how profitable but with no inherent ingrained corporate culture to provide jobs for the disabled - will not have the stamina and merely providing a lip service - because business will need to transform recruitment, work process, supervisors that know how to compassionately managed the disabled, motivate disabled to do their best and satisfy customer demands.
c. The following conditions must also be available to ensure PWD disabled employment are successful :-
i. Government must have a dedicated education institute that trained PWD disabled to ensure they have the right skillsets required by the business.
ii. Government must ensure there is a PWD matching to jobs - in a partnership between the training institute and the business whereby :-
- Business provide a pipeline of internship program year after year to the disabled - to ensure the PWD can fit into the organisation - and upon graduation, land a permanent job with the hosting business.
- To encourage more business to join this PWD matching programme - government can provide salary grant to each successful matching - to subsidise the business.
- Depending on the type of disability, business will need to modify the workplace so that the disabled can perform their work. Government grant to modify the workplace will enticed more business to participate - to cover the cost needed for modification.
[2:08 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Lame excuse if inclusive society is just mere words
[2:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: I grew up with one… I bring him to toilet clear shit. Wash him up clothed him
[2:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: November 7, 2022
Actions matter most?
Steps:
Prioritize actions over merticulous plannings.
Leverage on existing social infrastructures.
Test out these short terms solutions.
Replicate successful ideas.
Applying these successes onto the long term goals and occurring challenges.
Afterwords:
Having a flatter organisation flow will be beneficial than a triangle and tall chain of command. It's all about racing against time and timing happens to be a decider of success or failure in executing and implementing any initiatives.
If you want faster results, try the uncommon ways to kick start this noble cause, to create and find jobs for our PWDs!
- - in progress - -
[2:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Lol try doing it daily.. for 1 year
[2:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: A true fine example of a human being
[2:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: I did it for 3
[2:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: There are a lot of thresholds or limitations, and regardless of these, someone needs to start rolling the ball effectively if we aim to improve the condition by milestones and raising up pwd with dignity, and helping them live independently just like others.
[2:10 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: How much heart also will be tired if people expect you to do it
[2:10 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Very rare individual
[2:10 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: To me is a relived when I was changed in class.. someone take over my baton
[2:10 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: But still not an easy task
[2:11 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Understand
[2:11 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: Any consideration for activities that he can join? Something difference for going out for leasures
[2:13 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Lol… why we need to accommodate him? Is a expectation? Or he need to find ways if he wants to join?
We are young… and really how often if you always plan… might as well exclude him makes life much more easier. We make the decisions daily…
[2:13 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Hence, is take both hands to clap
[2:13 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: He/she need to also understand, which over time he also knows… it is not easy for us
[2:14 pm, 07/11/2022] +REACH: ๐ข Topic ๐ข
At a masterclass on disability-inclusive hiring at the Istana on 2 November 2022, President Halimah Yacob said that employers can do more to open up job opportunities in sectors other than food and beverage (F&B), hotel or kitchens. While there have been increases in hiring in the hospitality and F&B sectors, sectors such as tech, logistics and healthcare have only started opening up to hiring people with disabilities.
๐ฌ What are your views on current efforts to support people with disabilities (PWDs) in finding employment?
Speaking at the event, Madam Halimah also highlighted that PWDs may require adjustments such as assistive technologies to help workers with disabilities in their jobs, adding that such adjustments are not costly and that…
[2:14 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Even now not all places are wheelchair friendly… example Bugis lol
[2:14 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: The only way out for wheelchair is on the other side of the road without access if rain..
[2:15 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: As kids we go Bugis often no?
[2:16 pm, 07/11/2022] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Varied types of disabilities - some are physical, some are mental
1. However like my close friend mention, disabilities have many types - some are physical, some are mental.
2. Thus internship provided by the business and matching of jobs by the training institute - become the key for successful landing the PWD to the business - to see whether the PWD can successfully do the job well and perform the tasks assigned by the business and meet the customer demands ---- whether if they are physically disabled or mentally disabled.
[2:16 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Being wheelchair friendly will be first step for any wheelchair bound individuals to able to travel on their own.
[2:16 pm, 07/11/2022] +Grace: how to make the pace of life in SG less stressful ๐
[2:17 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: I think businesses, when hiring pwd, they are looking for contributions from pwd, not hiring them for poster boy/girl. Hence, objectively company should not wait until the business itself gets profit and then only hire. Pwd cannot wait and pwd is part of society to contribute to productivity.
[2:17 pm, 07/11/2022] +Grace: caregiver fatigue - another thing to tackle... cos of our high cost of living
[2:17 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Yes no point being poster boy/girl it cannot be long term
[2:17 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: In recession they are the first to go..
[2:18 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: If they are not contributing their share
[2:19 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: He stated in his interview ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[2:19 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Wonder should share the CNA interview ๐
[2:19 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Later kena wack him
[2:21 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Definitely
[2:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: The changes he face as a physical challenged person growing up
[2:24 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: https://youtu.be/N0V8RQVt6eY
[2:24 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Wow
[2:26 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Too bad they remove sail from Olympic.. if not you will know him… one of the top sailers in Paralympic
[2:26 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Won’t be just pin Xiu
[2:27 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Can’t find the CNA one
[2:28 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: I agree
[2:29 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: In a global village, humans have different cultures and needs, and sometimes it amazes the group what unique leisure event friends will bring to us. I remember last time when in the stat, we did that. Every week, at our gathring we learn something unique and it's fun regardless of where we came from.
[2:30 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Yup.. I go sailing and tennis with him… just unique…
Handicap tennis is not easy
[2:30 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: ๐
[2:30 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Sailing as well
[2:30 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: If more schools are open to be handicapped abled. Then kids get exposed to them earlier in life
[2:31 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Of course the kids need to be strong in normal school
[2:31 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Kids can be quite mean
[2:31 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: ๐
[2:32 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Adjustments in infrastructure and staff mindset needed.
[2:32 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: It is tragic in the real world. They are usually the first batch to be dismissed.๐ข
[2:33 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: If they are asset then will be different.
[2:33 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: They are someone's children, spouse or siblings who already face difficulties in their life!
[2:33 pm, 07/11/2022] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
"Please don't jump the gun': Diner regrets complaining to manager about service in restaurant"
https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/please-dont-jump-gun-diner-regrets-complaining-manager-about-service-restaurant-staff-with-autism#:~:text=%27-,Please%20don%27t%20jump%20the%20gun%27%3A%20Diner%20regrets%20complaining%20to%20manager%20about%20service%20in%20restaurant,-AUGUST%2010%2C%202022
[2:34 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: One fine example!
[2:34 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Apply that JSS?
[2:35 pm, 07/11/2022] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
I don't expect PWD to excel like normal people.
Unless customer, business know about their conditions and cut them some slack.
[2:35 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Agree
[2:36 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: You are absolutely right. They are not easy, especially in sports, not only the playing technique but also the ability on the gadget they rely on playing, Salute after seeing their courage.
[2:36 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Of cos, productivity is not a consideration when hiring our PWDs!
Also useful HR assets, pls don't count it too!
Enable or Disable?
[2:37 pm, 07/11/2022] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
And business who usually do well will have more slack to employ PWD.
I know of a local bank that has a special program for PWD - UOB that employs PWD with specially trained supervisor to handle them.
[2:37 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Singapore MNC tried as much as possible.. government push mah…
[2:38 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: That's the way going forward!
How about interviewing UOB? How they done it and any unforeseen challenges?
We want to hear failures!
[2:38 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: They can if given the right job and task.
[2:38 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Push and Pull strategy
[2:39 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: ร would like to be informed of pwd adapting in the civil service, government ministry, skateboards, uniform services, government linked companies, law enforcement agencies to see how far our leaders have gone in accommodating them .
[2:39 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: But similarly they can be an asset… is very hard for them to change job. If they see them that way
[2:39 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Try swimming with your legs, stay afloat with your pair of legs and please clocked under 2 minutes for a one way 50m lap?
[2:40 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Mentally challenged ones.. not so sure. Those are really tough. For many years I didn’t really work volunteer with mentally challenged ones.. is a different ball game all together
[2:40 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Mobility, this case includes job!
[2:42 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: The community should provide psychological aspects of help to pwd. Their feeling is as weak as others, but what is waiting for them is twice as harsh from their surrounding. I see many breaks in Down office which no one know how to help them. In-house clinic recommendation is “just leave them alone during that moment”. will this really help? I don't know.
[2:46 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: I think this is where society needs to help to create a systematic process/approach to equip them with the skills to make sure they are assets to an organisation. In addition, is there any research or development that helps them to assimilate into the current working environment?
[2:50 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Is autism a disability or not so or cannot be ?
Autism is a lifelong developmental disability that affects a person's ability to make sense of the world and relate with others. Autism comes from 'autos', the Greek word for 'self', and a person on the autism spectrum is often referred to as someone who lives in a world of his own.
[2:52 pm, 07/11/2022] +65 8796 9013: Autism can do a job but give them time to learn slowly because he or she has difficulties skill like making coffee or tea or dishwasher
[2:57 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.integrityinc.org/what-are-the-5-types-of-autism/
[2:57 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Different spectrum… I know some minor ones. Go to NS, and married and have kids… hard to judge
[2:57 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Some really just minor… maybe if not diagnosed can be just normal human with a bit of temper ๐คฃ
[2:58 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Can have a meaningful simple family too!
Public bus driver is one job.
[2:59 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Driver not sure… ๐
Only the companies can judge if they are a fit
[2:59 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Suggest to REACH, the next outdoor activities to include Autism school visit as one venue of interest to educate our interested citizens?
[3:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Plus disabled school too!
[3:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[3:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: If insurance will cover with such conditions ๐ in the end is a business. If they cover should be ok
[3:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: "SEEING IS THE START OF BELIEVING "
[3:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Just volunteer you will able to exposure to them.. not those meaningless CIP ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[3:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Already happening!
[5:16 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: Lol you all say so much do you know they got eaten in workplace ? In one gov hospital . they only earn 1800 SGD . The person only got small handicapped only already get bully can’t imagine a authism person. How many ppl heart to heart talk to them ? Eat and make them feel useful is 2 matter .,
[3:01 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: This will be a high if not huge cost
[3:01 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: I don’t believe in flag day ๐
Is a must but meaningful or not I doubt so
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: They are not cheap labour
[3:01 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Meeting them direct before flag day.. when ask they can explain then makes more sense but too much more to impmeny
[3:01 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Implement
[3:02 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Let the law treats these work bullies!
Name and shame them too!
[3:02 pm, 07/11/2022] +SL: The number in who - world report on disability indicating the employment rate (table 8.1, page 262) for disability person in Norway (2003) is 61.7%,
Switzerland (2003) is 62.2%. How do they achieve it?
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: You think they dare to speak out ?so before Gov say in news please do ur rounds
[3:03 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Not easy… being unique…
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: in secret . Don’t wear ur bloody ceo badge ard
[3:03 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: There will always be bullies from your neighbor, to the school and onto the roads!
It's all about behavior and behaving!
[3:03 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Whistle blower? Pls stand up!
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: Heart to do things and say nice things is 2 different things
[3:04 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: ⁰
Get those involved in f⁰⁰lag day to
[3:04 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: A first world society has no room for rude behaviors and mostly taking advantages over the less abled people!
[3:05 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: My sentiments exactly
[3:06 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Lol humans… seems too many..
๐คท๐ป♂️
[3:06 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Seen”
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: The articles is just justified for cheap labour
[3:06 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Even it takes One more generation to cultivate empathy and respect to anyone! So it will be worth more than any money can makes it!
[3:08 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: ? Which part I might have missed it
[3:08 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Where is the respect, do they have hearts, how about self confidence on those who are compromised through bullying?
Are they civic minded or selfish individuals chasing that dollars and cents!
[3:08 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: To each their own
[3:08 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: ๐ be in a wheelchair just roam around Singapore will see… please have a strong heart
[3:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Hopefully we are dealing with a tiny amount of such folks?
[3:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[3:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Of course there are equally nice people around… see your luck
[3:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Agree
[3:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: One is enough…
[3:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: More warm hearted people!
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: i really feel like sending u tge picture how the car block the walk way at Chinatown
[3:10 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: There will ALWAYS be selfish folks!
[3:10 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Put it here
[3:10 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: No matter how tiny… really just one can make life hell for you
[3:10 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[3:10 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: We always mind our business.. how many dare to confront them? If they are rude?
[3:11 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: So the next time things happened, would anyone stand up to help or walk away quicker than a wheelchair?
[3:11 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: This is where we must learn from others around the world.
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: i wanted to confront the driver but ppl in merc leh wait sue me how . call police they already left
[3:11 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Here it goes...
[3:11 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Try having kids taking lift…
[3:11 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: My eyes rolls always…
[3:12 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: If kids like that… how about wheelchair?
[3:12 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Number plate is enough to apprehend!
[3:12 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Then, jail and fine with no separation
[3:12 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: People don’t even let us go up…
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: The drive saw me still give me bird look .
[3:12 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Plaza Singapore lift, city square lol… lots of people don’t need lift but choose to squeeze in. Then stare at people outside with wheelchair and toddlers
[3:12 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: The kids will learn and perhaps a hero role model too! This parent!
[3:13 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Pea brain
[3:13 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: ๐ ๐คท๐ป♂️
[3:13 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Speechless but what can I do? ๐คฃ
[3:14 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: They have the right to take lift too…
[3:14 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Someone must INITIAL to ask to excuse a space for the disabled!
Or you see me and I waiting for others to intervene? Finally all abled bodies entered the lift, door closed and bye bye!
[3:14 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Even if they just squeeze in without queuing… you think wheelchair a lot better? ๐คฃ
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: lucky I don’t take lift often
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: cos I always feel to give to needy
[3:15 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: 10 times… not even once… ๐
[3:15 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Handicapped First! How about blind People!
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: waste electricity and Green
[3:15 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Another consideration
[3:15 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Plaza Singapore you see it everyday
[3:15 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: It's time someone PURPOSELY go there to initial it!
Go there and wait for the right moment!
[3:15 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Vivo city is another one lol
[3:15 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Got it!
[3:16 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Give way to others in need
[3:16 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Recorded it!
[3:16 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: For what? Lol
[3:16 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Stomp? People are not graceful… even to able body…
[3:16 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: So wheelchair you need to have a good heart
[3:16 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[3:16 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: If doing not issue, put on social media
[3:17 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: How about parents carrying babies and groceries bags on the other hand?
Roll the eyes and pretend to be blind too?
[3:17 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Video recording!
[3:17 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Heart
[3:17 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Attitude!
[3:17 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Wait....
[3:18 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Car driver who threw away bus captain’s phone charged with committing public nuisance
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/car-driver-who-grabbed-and-threw-bus-captain-s-phone-charged-with-committing-public-nuisance
Watch the video in this news!
[3:18 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: I will turn the other way to such people.
[3:19 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: VERY good deed! Thank you!
[3:19 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Yup as always ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: U record wait ppl sue u . my scare wor lol .
[3:19 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Exclude yourself and show the rest the correct gesture
[3:20 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: By not boarding the lift and let the needed people go in!
[3:21 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: One little good and rite will spark others to reflect!
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: When raining a lot of cars like to wait the shelter for ppl block walk way as well . I saw a lot of times . Some do give way bur most don’t
[3:24 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Use Soft Skills to handle tough nuts!
Not starting a fight nor shaming a chap for not!
It's about maintain face that everyone has it, use that SOFT APPROACH!
[3:25 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Rule based or ruthless based?
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: even normally pll
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: drench in rain . Can’t imagine wheel chair ppl
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: Why can’t they wait somewhere and call the person when the person reach the shelter
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: Must block the shelter zebra crossing
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: esp those slope when u normal don’t wait at the wheel chair access
[3:30 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: It all flows down to upbringing... those younger years!
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: u now raining go walk ard can see
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: Esp old / wheelchair ppl need to go hospital not like ppl on wheelchair purposely want to go out on rainy days , correct ๐
[3:36 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: More wheelchairs coming, this aging society!
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: some ppl even worse go shelter at taxi stand on rainy day . see taxi keep asking them to pass as they not waiting for taxi .tge 2 old couple waiting very long . realise that group of ppl not waiting for taxi .
[3:37 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Handicapped parking lots ..use this proven concept
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: i think when rain is different and handicapped parking lots and blocking shelter walk way for handicapped is different
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: just because incosderate of ppl
[3:39 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Enforcement...
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: who enforc ?
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: u ?
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: u drive on the road will find a lot of incosderate ppl
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: u those private estate even worse . park every where . esp those near hdb block like shunfu area . 4 cars block the slope on weekend .
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: searangoon area also
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: u know wheelchair cant fly right
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: one even accuse me of taking photo say will sue me but I was playing Pokรฉmon ๐
[5:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +KL: Btw I when into the area due to road diversion cos of expressway building not i too free ๐
[3:56 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Great feedback, KL.
Your feedback will create more awareness to all of us!
Thank you!
[4:14 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: 7 November, 2022
To: Our Distinguished Transports Authority, Policymakers and All Honorable Members
"PRIVATE-PUBLIC Actions!"
PROPER!
Collaborate with Grab, Comfort and Gojek to ENABLE all disabled Passengers their mobile numbers designated as TOP priority 24/7, peak & off-peak hours, weekends and holidays and 'weather' proof over the rest of the public.
Whenever a handicapped person book a ride, she or he will get the first booking.
NAUGHTY?
Misuse of this priority queues will result in up to 10x the fares for this one way ride! No need to go Court to proof nor video to proof! This misuser will pay 10x the fares! No sweat! ALL WINNERS - the provider and the misuser!
ANY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES or blind spots?
Handicapped Pass (็ด้ๅก):
Let this Han…
[4:19 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: One card
็ด้ๅก
Lurus Kad
เฎจேเฎฐாเฎ เฎชாเฎธ் เฎ เฎ்เฎை
[4:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: ? Is done or you propose?
[4:22 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Looks legit ๐
[4:23 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Trying to seek consensus with all and importantly elevates to the policymakers!
All for the benefits of our disabled fellow countrymen.
Thank you!
[4:24 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Do able…. But wheelchairs need special taxi.. not normal taxi.
Normal taxi are for those can easily mount and dismount from wheelchairs. Those heavy weight ones need specialise ones..
[4:25 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Pls arrange with operators... collaborate efforts..
This ONE CARD!
[4:25 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[4:25 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Identify transport needs!
[4:26 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Usually those wheelchair bound already have comfort taxi partners that ferry them often.
[4:26 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: That know how to handle them…
[4:26 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Not all taxi drivers are friendly towards wheelchair bound
[4:26 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Good effort but not practical
[4:26 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Speaking from experience ๐คฃ
[4:28 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: There is a group of taxi drivers that provide such service and at no extra charges… not sure is comfort ones or non Profit groups form ones
[4:29 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Those electrical wheelchair can only go specialise taxi or taxi ambulance.
[4:30 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Should we succeed, let this initiative flow and share with our ASEAN and all Urban and developed nations.
How about less developed nations? What's their needs and technologies?
[4:30 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Lol less developed nations they are poor thing
[4:30 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Br known in this ONE CARD
[4:30 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Usually supported by non profit for the mobility
[4:31 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Poor countries those people are not well taken care off… only rich countries can afford such access…
[4:31 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: What is a smart city nation?
Can it be smarter?
[4:32 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Adaptation is one BIG attributes... this human race!
[4:33 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Kindness is required…. Government can do is limited
[4:33 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Collaboration between providers and policymakers
[4:34 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: First make all public places from MRT accessible with decent cover from rain… that’s first step bah
[4:34 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: 5 November, 2022
Rethinking what is life and living?
"It is not what you have, it is what you do with what you have to the fullest! Life is not about success, fame or full of money!"
"Never says it's impossible, think all possibilities and perhaps that is an ideal life that wakes up everyday with purposes and most of all, it must be meaningful!"
"Be intellectually curious, have a stomach fills with positive energy and importantly cultivate a good and a pleasant personality!"
[4:34 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Mandate accessibility as building design requirements
[4:35 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: If can’t even provide access what is all those taxi for?
[4:35 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: We still short of lift in many MRT stations…
[4:35 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Ask BCA
[4:36 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Ask MRT and BCA
[4:36 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: MRT is cost… not cheap…
[4:36 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Drill deep.. is money..
[4:36 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Hence still many old station if cost is an issue they will not have full access
[4:38 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Just hope that all the newer stations have access as their design.. will be fair enough… those legacy station haiz no choice
[4:39 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Accessibility will be key requirements for them to go to work. You can be paying for cab to work… ๐
[4:40 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Don’t make sense also..
[4:43 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Akan datang, coming soon, all renewed access for aging and handicapped
[4:46 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: One good thing about this government is it always PLAN ahead years away!
As for the opposite benchers, they love to poke and ply on issues like a devil's advocate?
Any opinions or objections?
[4:47 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: As what PM last night on mediacorp channel 5 news about them!
[4:50 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Lol I saw Opp leader at my supermarket ๐คฃ
[4:51 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Empty vessels making a lot of noise!
[4:51 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: One more, they always recalibrate and improve on things....like an EVERREADY machine, it goes on and on and on...
[4:54 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: It's ALWAYS easy criticizing things..
How about this and that and should be that way and so on!
a common local Hong Kong saying..."Only if one knew (ๆฉ็ฅๆ ไนไธ) !"
[4:55 pm, 07/11/2022] +lesli: S’poreans cannot have it both ways – more opposition MPs but also effective PAP govt: PM Lee
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/s-poreans-cannot-have-it-both-ways-wanting-more-opposition-mps-but-also-an-effective-pap-govt-pm-lee
On topic of inclusivity oso... how to have more voices in Govt but still stay efficient...impt question.
[4:55 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Talking is the easiest trades, actions speak louder than words!
[4:56 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: ๐คท๐ป♂️
[4:56 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Public town hall?
[4:57 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: PAP event
[4:57 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Efficiency of opposing or feel safer to plant a few opposite spikey memosa into the House?
[4:58 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Not easy to find people with heart and serve… to be opposition already tough enough…
[4:58 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: To me it takes guts to stand against PAP
[4:59 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Typical to be controlled
[4:59 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[4:59 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: It doesn't matter, town hall meetings to engage, listen, learn and EXPLAIN policies and the difficulties to our people!
People have good sense of things and all of us are reasonable folks too!
It takes millions voices to sync into ONE LOUD, YES!
[4:59 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Private Singh said so.
[5:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Your background your everything will be on target board. So opposition not necessary bad to have… Atleast they stand..
[5:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Opposition not efficient!
[5:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Is not about guts..
If sensible and logical with decent presentation and good workable solutions... nobody will gun you down!
[5:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: To have someone let us voice we are not happy…
[5:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: If walkover how you know the consensus
[5:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: They need to find the correct footing!
[5:01 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Singapore is smart enough… but just hope not like brexit make it happen without thinking ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[5:02 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: People think government sure win… don’t vote ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[5:02 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Let it be!
Why walkovers?
Is it a strong party presence that opposition dares not try or tikam?
Is not about losing or losing the election deposits!
Where are the HEROS AND HEROINES?
[5:02 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: The only bright spark in WP respected by our late MM LKY resigned soon after challenging WP former chairman.
[5:02 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: No exit!
[5:03 pm, 07/11/2022] +lesli: PAP will work ‘doubly hard, triply hard’ to regain lost seats at next GE: Lawrence Wong
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/pap-will-work-doubly-hard-triply-hard-to-regain-lost-seats-next-ge-lawrence-wong
Respect...๐ค
[5:04 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Nothing great about opposition manifestos!
[5:04 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Hard to please everyone
[5:04 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: One thing for sure!
It will take another half Century for another LKY like to arrive!
It's true, cannot reveal further as to the above.
[5:04 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Did anything happen?
[5:05 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: Anyway back to topic ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[5:05 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: 80% and above is a good policy
[5:05 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Their rally promises amounted to insufficient votes to be elected.
[5:06 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Bingo! Andrew, once again got it!
Promises and hopes must be fulfilled!
People are no fool!
[5:07 pm, 07/11/2022] +Ken: They don’t have guts to be government then they are not ready.. for anything
[5:08 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Singaporeans tend to grumble and complaints... end of the day, all are good people!
That's the distinct Singaporeans culture wherever you go abroad and within...
[5:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Having ABLE WOMEN AND MEN to run a country!
[5:09 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: I don't Want politicians repeatedly talking minister salaries, cost living, transportation and food prices, water issues health care costs with no substance but cannot speak on regional or international affairs affecting us.
[5:11 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Women DPM, foreign affairs minister, law minister, health minister,home affairs minister, commissioner of police/scdf, ica, cnb, attorney General, chief justice.
[5:11 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[5:14 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: What a Lucky nation?
Even now, all of us having meaningful discussions and the digital way to present our thoughts, sentiments and ideas!
[5:14 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: Yes
[5:17 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: From non Aircon buses to MRT, paddlings postman to his electric bike!
Black board with choking chalks to personal Ipads!
M16 to our SAR 21!
Raining days with no shelters to today's connectors to MRT and bus stops and bus interchange.
Indeed, So lucky!
Next comes the cost of livings, this famous sound BITES!
[5:19 pm, 07/11/2022] +Rama: ๐
[5:38 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: 7 November, 2022
The Problems of Abundance (banyak, เฎฎிเฎுเฎคிเฎฏாเฎ, ไธฐๅฏ)
Is it a happiness that Singapore pride itself with full of facilities and amenities for the public use? One example is our National Library system that spans 27 locations and still planning to expand, it is a good cause!
Is it a convenience for all including our disabled people to co-enjoy these purpose-built infrastructures?
Is it costly to use these public goods and services for certain groups of people?
All the above voiced to dollars and cents. To upgrade and better things need many resources from human efforts to materials to better build each item.
How not to cost more when ourselves have no natural resources at all?
Can we do better with lowering cost? Yes, again through tax c…
[6:27 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: Assurance Package to help households offset GST hike to get $1.4b boost, will now total $8b
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/assurance-package-to-help-households-offset-gst-hike-to-get-14b-boost-will-now-total-8b
[6:45 pm, 07/11/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan ๐
[6:55 pm, 07/11/2022] +Smiley face: 7 November, 2022
Proposed Personal Income Tax
For who?
First $40,000 to the next $40,000
The current tax for this category of personal income tax is 7% after all deductibles.
Just in case the global economic situation comes to a slogging phase in Q2/2023, proposed to revise downwards to 5% for these taxpayers.
What's the impact?
What's the net benefit for this group tax payers?
Current at 7% x $40,000 = $2,800 tax payable
Proposed 5% x $40,000 = $2,000 tax payable
Net tax savings will be $800 per taxpayer.
Criteria?
All citizens in this income category regardless of single or double household income.
One year and extendable to next FY subject to future economics situations and or performances.
[7:00 pm, 07/11/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan ๐
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