REACH 190 - How to encourage vaccination (SK)
01 Feb 2021 (11am - 7pm)
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[11:41 am, 01/02/2021] +REACH: Woman warded after Covid-19 vaccine: SGH says no evidence symptoms are side effects https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/no-evidence-that-patients-symptoms-are-linked-to-covid-19-vaccine-sgh?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany
[11:42 am, 01/02/2021] +REACH: askST: Why you need to get your Covid-19 vaccine shots https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/askst-why-you-need-to-get-your-covid-19-shots?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany
[11:50 am, 01/02/2021] +REACH: 📢 Topic 📢
More than 113,000 people have received their first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said on Thursday (Jan 28).
Among them, there were 432 "adverse event reports" linked to symptoms generally associated with all vaccinations. Most symptoms resolved on their own within a few days, said MOH. There were three cases of anaphylaxis, or rapid onset of severe allergic reactions, but all of them recovered and were discharged after a day's observation or treatment, the ministry added. All three had a history of allergies, but none had a history of anaphylaxis, which would have precluded them from receiving the vaccine.
MOH said it will continue to work with the Health Sciences Authority and the Expert Committee on Covid-19 Vaccination to closely monitor the safety of the vaccine and ensure the vaccines used in Singapore are safe for its population groups.
💬 How can we encourage more people in our community to get vaccinated?
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[11:51 am, 01/02/2021] +Caleb: Update the vaccine website FAQs
[11:51 am, 01/02/2021] +Caleb: And have a more comprehensive FAQs
[11:53 am, 01/02/2021] +Bobby Tan: List down probable allergy effect so that people can be well prepare and not at a shock . Especially people who are allergy to certain medicine.
[11:53 am, 01/02/2021] +Caleb: Maybe do a 2 in 1.
Vaccine plus saliva test for covid-19?
[11:54 am, 01/02/2021] +Nats: To add on to that, not only have insurance coverage (or what not), but also medical (and emotional) help at the ready
[11:54 am, 01/02/2021] +WJ: Give benefits of traveling overseas. Reduced quarantine when returning.
[0:05 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Covid vaccines already having an effect on UK outbreak, research suggests
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/covid-vaccines-already-having-effect-170846213.html
[0:09 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Another country, UK has see tangible benefits in vaccination after Israel - even after 1st jab.
But UK is delaying the 2nd jab so as to roll out to more people - which is against the guidelines of vaccine makers and WHO.
But getting vaccination for everyone does stop the covid-19 pandemic.
So despite some risks of adverse reactions to a small minority of people, everyone should try to get vaccinated - because the risks and effects of getting the covid is far more worst than getting ourselves vaccinated.
[0:13 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ana: Be specific about symptoms and cases which will be covered and will not be covered under vaccine insurance.
When healthcare institutions keep saying there's "no evidence" of whatever conditions needed for covid insurance coverage, it undermines public trust and willingness to get vaccinated
[0:15 pm, 01/02/2021] +Caleb: +1
[0:17 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
25 COVID-19 cases with B117 variant found in Singapore: MOH
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-b117-uk-variant-south-africa-singapore-25-cases-14069952
[0:19 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
So the speed of mutated variants has indeed strike with speed.
We are not only dealing with original covid, we are seeing more variant B117 UK strain hitting our shore.
Thus only vaccination can protect us.
[0:19 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ana: I want to get vaccinated ASAP, but
(1) knowing there's no sufficient media coverage of these people who are suffering immediately after getting vaccinated,
(2) these anecdotal experiences of family members suffering, hospitals being iffy about "no evidence", leading to not getting covered by insurance stated by the government, and
(3) having a family to support
really makes me hesitate.
[0:22 pm, 01/02/2021] +XaniceAfcai: 1. Educate the people on the vaccine and what are the expected, do and don't.
2. Advertise on TV and radio on vaccination.
3. Poster in neighbour or public places.
4. Rc members or volunteer of each estate to go around neighbourhood to promote and educate people on vaccination.
[0:23 pm, 01/02/2021] +Rama: Use dialects where possible and necessary along with malay and tamil.
[0:34 pm, 01/02/2021] +maybellrejoice1: Worrisome, more reports of deaths amongst the elderly following mRNA vaccinations at nursing homes.... from a whistle blower.
CNA Nursing Home Whistleblower: Seniors Are DYING LIKE FLIES After COVID Injections!
Jan 26, 2021
Health Impact News
James (he gives his last name in the video) is a CNA (Certified…
[1:00 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ben: Whilst I too have spoken to people who have been vaccinated and didn't feel well either, I think these cases are infrequent and short-lived. Maybe a few days feeling tired, some headaches etc. We don't know if these are psychosomatic either. With all the anxiety and uncertainty, people feel nervous and the stress alone can make people feel unwell. I will be taking the vaccine when the opportunity comes.
[1:01 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ben: Things that make me suspicious and want to look further before accepting this as Fact.
[1:02 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Bruh at least click on the link and then know why they call it medicalkidnap lmao
[1:04 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ben: Tempting of course, but no thanks lol. I don't want to keep funding them through click bait advertising!
[1:07 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Covid vaccine - hope for elderly
https://www.biopharma-reporter.com/Article/2020/11/23/COVID-19-vaccine-hope-for-older-adults-AstraZeneca-Pfizer-Moderna-trial-data
[1:07 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Covid vaccine: Pfizer says '94% effective in over-65s'
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54986208
[1:11 pm, 01/02/2021] +WJ: Important point for public: there's insurance coverage to COVID-19 vaccination complication.
[1:11 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOZDa4rKxNg Early data from Israel - where 20% of its population has been received the Pfizer jab - suggests it could lead to a 33% decline in infections among the over-60s, just two weeks after the group were vaccinated.
While COVID-19 vaccines have been shown to reduce the risk of serious disease, this new data suggests the UK may have to rethink it's decision to delay the second jab.
[1:11 pm, 01/02/2021] +maybellrejoice1: https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/doctors-around-the-world-issue-dire-warning-do-not-get-the-covid-vaccine/
[1:14 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ben: Are you usually resistant to vaccinations or is it just this one? I'm asking without judgement to understand the context of this post.
[1:15 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
There are many conspiracy and misinformation website coming out from US - supporting Trump conspiracy.
Specifically the QAnon conspiracy website.
Anti-vaccines is also part of this conspiracy.
[1:16 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ben: Some historical background to put things in perspective. https://www.bmj.com/content/325/7361/430/related
[1:16 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ben: Worth reading before spreading misinformation about vaccinations.
[1:18 pm, 01/02/2021] +~宇: You should be charged for spreading misinformation
[1:22 pm, 01/02/2021] +maybellrejoice1: It's just info pls. Not spreading anything. Everyone has a choice pls. You decide.
[1:23 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: Err share more credible source I really don’t like non mainstream media... if not @+65 6336 7926 Megan please moderate.
[1:24 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: @REACH Singapore
[1:24 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
QAnon conspiracy
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/25/qanon-conspiracy-theory-explained-trump-what-is
[1:27 pm, 01/02/2021] +~宇: That's the exact rationale of folks spreading misinformation. "I'm just sharing, you decide."
[1:27 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
There are many disinformation websites spreading conspiracy theory.
Among the conspiracy theory is the disinformation of anti-vaccination to sow further chaos to the world that everyone seen in Trump administration.
[1:27 pm, 01/02/2021] +Berny: Ok ah, I'm pretty neutral on this ya, but by just "sharing" without fact checking, pofma can hammer you down
[1:28 pm, 01/02/2021] +Berny: So unless you are very sure of the info and facts, best is to read and stop the circulation when in doubt
[1:28 pm, 01/02/2021] +Berny: That is also why I rarely share articles on whatsapp, unless because it is funny
[1:29 pm, 01/02/2021] +~宇: How about you do us all a favour and stop with your "care and sharing"
[1:29 pm, 01/02/2021] +Berny: Like this one:
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/covid-19-china-deploys-anal-swabs-test-coronavirus-14052524?cid=FBcna
[1:29 pm, 01/02/2021] +Berny: Because, its funny
[1:30 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: Lol 🤣
[1:30 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Lol I sense much hypocrite
Someone who doesn't even participate in this place regularly suddenly comes out to confront someone else over some (might not be true) news
[1:30 pm, 01/02/2021] +Berny: Credible or not is another story
[1:31 pm, 01/02/2021] +Phyllis: Why so angsty!
[1:31 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: 😅
[1:34 pm, 01/02/2021] +~宇: I'm free to chime in whenever I like. This channel doesn't belong to you little guy
[1:34 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Hahaha shut up bro you forever troublemaker one
[1:35 pm, 01/02/2021] +Phyllis: Hiyoh relax. Today only 1st FEB!
[1:36 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: Chill guys.. anyway try to share mainstream or credible source nowadays the world is crazy enough...
Need some peace lol
[1:37 pm, 01/02/2021] +~宇: So am I wrong in asking her to stop spreading misinformation
[1:38 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: No issue arh...
[1:38 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Lol I'd rather just have Ben's message than yours lmao, at least Ben approaches the issue with a balanced perspective and supports his statement with something else while you? You're just like you should be charged
I hope you're charged with electricity lmaooo
[1:39 pm, 01/02/2021] +jimmy chew: Haha yeah. This is Reach chat. If defunct Best to include link. I accidentally shared some good news about pfizer. Then my friend send me a link on same website but there was an advert that pfizer sponsored another drug. Good to know if refute maybe provide evidence.
[1:40 pm, 01/02/2021] +Phyllis: Not wrong la, maybe can put in a nicer way
[1:40 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: For me if I am pissed off enough I will go Google and amass information to shoot people... but then again, for the good for people usually mainstream do fact check a bit more so we don’t usually open fire 🤣🤣
[1:40 pm, 01/02/2021] +~宇: You don't get to police who says what here little toad. This is Reach not your channel
[1:40 pm, 01/02/2021] +Fulgrim: Wah
[1:41 pm, 01/02/2021] +Fulgrim: What happened ? I can smell the gunpowder
[1:41 pm, 01/02/2021] +Phyllis: Oi what TOAD.
[1:41 pm, 01/02/2021] +Phyllis: I despise name calling!
[1:42 pm, 01/02/2021] +jimmy chew: My friend shared with me CNN, Russian Times and aAl jerzera .All different perspective. Even BBC on is bias and I thought it was neutral 😐
[1:42 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: 😥 just a platform to share our thoughts.. mind your language please 🙏
[1:42 pm, 01/02/2021] +jimmy chew: Agree. Agree 👍
[1:43 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Wah I toad? Then you what? Cyberbully? Accomplice of ahem, 9742 4440?
[1:44 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Everyone has their agenda, so it's really up to us to judge for ourselves lor :/
[1:44 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: @REACH Singapore admin please assist 😅
[1:44 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ben: You do need to be careful. You are sharing it, and giving no counter view so it does appear like an endorsement.
[1:45 pm, 01/02/2021] +REACH: Covid-19 vaccines can't currently be given to S'poreans who wish to travel overseas, due to limited supplies: Janil https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parliament-vaccines-cannot-currently-be-given-to-singaporeans-who-wish-to-travel-overseas?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany
[1:45 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Ben is nice. Be like Ben. Not like Jun Yu.
[1:46 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ben: 👍
[1:47 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Got data as to who doesn't and who wants to take the vaccine amongst the general population? Meaning not those prioritised ones like frontline and elderly
[1:53 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ben: They mean that people who wish to travel will not be prioritised for vaccination. The headline is very ambiguous otherwise, implying maybe that after vaccination you cannot travel.
[1:54 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: On my point, now got lotsa paid surveys ask about vaccine, whether we want to take it or not
There are tons and tons of survey panels asking the same question, am sure some are commissioned by gahmen one
[1:55 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: We go way back, WAY BACK lol
[1:55 pm, 01/02/2021] +jimmy chew: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/consumer/nightclubs-and-karaoke-outlets-in-the-dark-after-pilot-project-fails-to-take-off
[1:57 pm, 01/02/2021] +jimmy chew: I think the appropriate ministries should advice those in there groups who are active in participating in the scheme. Sad to see them not being updated to listen too. I know the government is busy but they also doing their best to help
[1:57 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Ah yes this one, thanks for sharing it here!
I just think that even if the core services can't be offered, there'll still be patrons who will do what they can to support such businesses if they switch to other models like F&B
Indeed, they'll have to pivot to something else if they wish to survive
[1:59 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: This one really hard, if we don’t save them they will be the end. But then again, if we do then the other industry that are badly hit then how?
It’s luck and nothing much we can do to help. Subject to market force and situation.
[1:59 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Pivot lor, as I put in the message above
[1:59 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: We help one the rest also wants it.
[2:00 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: Yup if you can’t innovate to survive and depends on government to help. Then it’s on your own. Given rent had given enough help for the whole last year.
[2:01 pm, 01/02/2021] +Caleb: https://youtu.be/3YzOGvIGaX8
[2:03 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Some will say if these businesses pivot to F&B, existing F&B will have to compete but from what I know, it's just simple finger food for now and also back to my logic, some of those loyal patrons of whatever night businesses will definitely do what they can to support the businesses one, even if they can't sing or dance or whatever, and can only eat
But of course there'll be those who will have absolutely no choice but to close shop, it's survival of the fittest, everyone wants to survive, but we all know not everyone will
[2:06 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Say this again. Carrot and stick.
Stop entry to certain places for those without vaccines (eg wedding venues, seminars, IT show, place with mass gathering)
Reward those who get vaccinated maybe a voucher for those who completed 2nd dose and tested antigen for covid.
My 2.14 cents
[2:07 pm, 01/02/2021] +Fulgrim: Wah, just customised sticker one. I thought Megan will be holding a big stick instead. Lol
[2:07 pm, 01/02/2021] +Fulgrim: Like that if drawn to the logical conclusion will be forced vaccination
[2:07 pm, 01/02/2021] +Fulgrim: Hold u down and inject u
[2:08 pm, 01/02/2021] +Fulgrim: Make vaccination mandatory with jail time for those who refuse
[2:08 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: You that new meh LOL this sticker's inspiration prolly came from this group
Last time got a lot of bells one LOL
[2:08 pm, 01/02/2021] +Fulgrim: I first time see....
[2:08 pm, 01/02/2021] +Fulgrim: Slippery slope leh. Imo
[2:09 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: No la
Is more like how everyone likes free stuff so incentivise lor
[2:09 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Good old days when this group close prematurely because of an interesting and intense fight HAHAHA
[2:09 pm, 01/02/2021] +Phyllis: Ya man that was DA BOMB!
[2:10 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: yes this
[2:10 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: 🤣
[2:10 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: two members were kicked out
[2:10 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: transferred
[2:10 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: would be a better word
[2:10 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Lol I actually saved every Megan sticker
[2:10 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: same bro lol
[2:10 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Lai
[2:10 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: special REACH stickers
[2:11 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Bell no need lah hor 😂
[2:11 pm, 01/02/2021] +Phyllis: @REACH Singapore you got yourself a FAN!
[2:11 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Megan need a cane or whip one
[2:11 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: 🤭
[2:11 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: SUGAR CANE
[2:13 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Eh but @Alvin on your point of restricting access to those large scale events hor
What if suay suay someone wants to attend, but not his/her turn to kena stab yet?
Also a bit of a grey area hor
[2:14 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: yes so it should only be implemented after it's widely available for all
[2:14 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: hence you do the reward first
[2:14 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: eg i offer you vaccine if you guai guai take 2 doses and antigen test good you get voucher
[2:14 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: ppl will brag about that which will get more ppl interested to vax
[2:16 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: From what I know, some mobility events that are scheduled to take place here in SG will start in June I think
So maybe around then?
[2:19 pm, 01/02/2021] +Anne: Thanks for sharing.
Actually if you were here a few months back we have already shared similar concerns with the G, and they were also mindful of our feedback, that’s why they set up a panel of experts to evaluate the safety and efficacy of the Covid 19 vaccines, and also did not go for mandatory vaccination.
This is a REACH chat group and a means for us to feedback to the G our concerns. Most people however seems to have mistaken this to be a social club and start imposing rules on what you can and cannot share. In this chat group only the T&Cs set out by REACH matters. The additional rules set out by the other members don’t matter. So, feel free to share your concerns with our G. Also, this is social media. You do not need to engage with anybody who is …
[2:23 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: To add on, the approach by Ben is much better than that by the Jun Yu guy
G2 has had countless times when people shared fake news without even reading it first so you also have to understand why some are so hostile
Though I must say there hasn't been any formal request (or directive) by the REACH admins to remove any posts for quite sometime now as compared to in the past so hopefully that's a sign that MCI is much more open to feedback, of a different style than before now
And yes, @Anne, maybellrejoice has been with us for quite a long time now, I recognise the name :)
[2:27 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ben: Might be unfair to those who haven't been offered a vaccine, or do you mean once Gov declares all citizens have been vaccinated other than those who declined?
[2:27 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Yes this
[2:27 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: But reward first
[2:27 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: You take you got voucher
[2:28 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Now the only thing is if have complications
[2:28 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ben: That might attract a different sort of member...
[2:28 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: MOH cannot say no evidence before investigation
[2:29 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: This will kill confidence that we will be covered for by the gov if the vaccine causes any ill side effects
[2:29 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: I hate widesweeping statements
[2:29 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: I wanna focus more on this
Insurance is one thing, but what about other forms of support like emotional?
[2:29 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Just say we are investigating
[2:29 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Don’t say no evidence
[2:30 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Of cos no evidence if you don’t investigate lah
[2:30 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Yass, must learn to be vague at the correct time
[2:31 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Who’s the spokesman for MOH need to learn the basics
[2:31 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: This will create fear and hesitation
[2:31 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: For taking the vaccine
[2:32 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Is it Kenneth Mak?
[2:32 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: When you craft the message to public it must be we take this very seriously and will investigate to make sure no such issue or if it’s unrelated we will also reveal to public. We will care for all sg who have taken the vaccine rest assured.
[2:33 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: That should be the tone
[2:33 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Anything short of that pls throw the script back to the PR team
[2:53 pm, 01/02/2021] +REACH: Bill introduced to make clear TraceTogether, SafeEntry data can be used to look into only 7 categories of serious offences https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/proposed-restrictions-to-safeguard-personal-contact-tracing-data-will-override-all-other?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany
[2:53 pm, 01/02/2021] +REACH: Singapore will have capacity to get population vaccinated against Covid-19 by Q3 2021, but may take longer to do so https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/singapore-will-have-capacity-to-get-population-vaccinated-against-covid-19-by-q3?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany
[2:54 pm, 01/02/2021] +REACH: Over 155,000 have received first Covid-19 vaccine dose; no increased risk of death for seniors https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/parliament-more-than-155000-people-have-received-first-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany
[2:55 pm, 01/02/2021] +REACH: Four who had severe allergic reactions from Covid-19 vaccine have recovered, none needed ICU support https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/four-who-had-severe-allergic-reactions-from-covid-19-vaccines-have-recovered-none-needed?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany
[3:00 pm, 01/02/2021] +maybellrejoice1: Yes thank you so much for having an open mind.
Am concerned as the vaccine was produced in such a short time & the virus has now mutated into different strains.
[3:00 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Thus such timely information on the effect of vaccines on elderly is important to reassure the public that the vaccines are safe.
Public have to be very careful about disinformation websites publishing fake news and information.
Disinformation is a asymmetric warfare employ by many unscrupulous politicians and groups to sow unrest and confusions - to achieve their heinous political objectives.
Lately being Trump and their conspiracy groups.
[3:01 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: And your concerns are totally valid! I just think people shouldn't hentum those who have doubts about the vaccines as anti-vaxxers straight away
Honestly everyone is entitled to their fears and concerns because of the expedited development of the vaccines
[3:01 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: 👍🏻
[3:01 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: We all have similar concerns... I myself don’t want to be vaccinated.
But for work no choice 😭
As much as possible, too many information out there not everyone is expert in knowing information are right. So as much as possible we find credible source.
[3:03 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: I personally am not certain of it myself either
But I think if there's at least one person who's willing to, this person could convince us or something?
Apart from Alvin's incentive idea, this would be like the peer support part of it
[3:03 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: The more MOH is transparent with the vaccine and its side effects the less ppl will turn to fake news
[3:04 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: The thing is are they open about the information? Or they scare will create public panic and hinder the vaccination process?
[3:04 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Yes this
[3:04 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: But I rather they be honest
[3:05 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: Cause like everywhere any death related to covid vaccine is news worthy and will be smear all over the world
[3:05 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: When ppl turn to fake news it will impede not just vaccination but a whole lot of other issues
[3:05 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: I am sure there will be a few mishaps, but how much will cause the vaccination process to be halted no one will know
[3:06 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Mmhmm, lesser of two evils
[3:07 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: And during this period pls dun let our leaders speak to private group talk about “xiasuay” things.
[3:08 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: Lol ccs actually was quite frank
[3:08 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Tbh I'm on CCS' side on that but y'know how easily people can twist words 🤷♂️
[3:08 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: Just that people didn’t honor the deal of having privilege information and discussion
[3:08 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Yes this
[3:09 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Don’t brag to others our leaders lead the vaccination
[3:09 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Now the big priority on communication is to restore confidence
[3:09 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: By taking it themselves etc
[3:12 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: It's something every nation strives to do but tbh it has no effect on the common hooman like you and me
So I'd rather have a different approach, through peers
Something like "eh bro, come we go together" or "EH BAE" hahaha you get it lah, I want to focus on the peer aspect, rather than a top-down approach like what Alvin said about showing leaders getting jabbed themselves (which I reiterate again, really doesn't have much effect)
[3:14 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Three issues actually
1) Get all Singaporeans on board to get vax
2) Get everyone to still use a mask even after vaxed
3) Taking care those who can’t get vax eg kids elderly pregnant ladies etc
[3:15 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Someone need to come out with a strategy for all three holistically
[3:16 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: No one is safe until everyone is safe
[3:17 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: 1) Peer support!!
2) Insist that being vaccinated doesn't make one totally immune, let alone immortal cuz it's immoral
3) Insurance enough? Let's not forget my emotional support point
And I typed in pointers too, yikes
[3:22 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: 🤭
[3:22 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: For 3, yes need emotional and community support
[3:23 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Hell yes, support. We need support. Peer and emotional! One's an encouragement, another's an assurance
[3:23 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Cos those not vaccinated will be surrounded by those who did and no one knows if the virus could survive even inside a vaccinated host or not
[3:24 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: So you could be vaccinated and yet a host for the virus at the same time
[3:24 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Which makes it worse
[3:24 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: So let's assume it would, and continue our mask-wearing, personal hygiene and social responsibility
[3:24 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Yes so 2 is about this
[3:24 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Vax already doesn’t mean no need mask
[3:24 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Better start drilling that inside our skulls right now
[3:25 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Otherwise ppl might just ignore masks after getting vaxed
[3:25 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: Hence my 3 part problems
[3:50 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: People who need to travel have to wait turn to be vaccinated for COVID-19: MOH
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-vaccination-priority-singapore-travel-parliament-14086080
[4:00 pm, 01/02/2021] +Ken: https://www.facebook.com/93889432933/posts/10158069362102934/?d=n
[4:31 pm, 01/02/2021] +REACH: [Sent by Gov.sg – 1 Feb]
As of 12pm, MOH has preliminarily confirmed no new cases of locally transmitted COVID-19 infection.
There are 29 imported cases, who had already been placed on Stay-Home Notice upon arrival in Singapore.
MOH will share further updates in its press release that will be issued later tonight.
go.gov.sg/moh010221update
[5:13 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/how-singapore-picked-its-covid-19-vaccines
How Singapore pick our covid-19 vaccines. 4 types available in the market - mRNA, viral vector, inactivated virus and protein sub-unit vaccines.
[5:16 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Nursing home residents in Singapore start to receive Covid-19 vaccine
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/nursing-homes-in-singapore-start-vaccinating-residents
[6:02 pm, 01/02/2021] +REACH: S'pore must balance stewardship of green spaces with land constraints: Desmond Lee https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/spore-must-balance-stewardship-of-green-spaces-with-land-constraints-desmond-lee?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany
[6:20 pm, 01/02/2021] +jimmy chew: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/proposed-restrictions-to-safeguard-personal-contact-tracing-data-will-override-all-other
[6:20 pm, 01/02/2021] +jimmy chew: An excellent move
[6:21 pm, 01/02/2021] +Caleb: heard some fb commented that, the doc did not do any check
[6:21 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Lol you out of touch ah just now REACH already sent that in
[6:21 pm, 01/02/2021] +jimmy chew: Oops haha.. thanks for the update
[6:22 pm, 01/02/2021] +jimmy chew: Embarrassed 😳
[6:22 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: 😏
[6:22 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Hahahaha it's okayy
[6:30 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: This my 2.14 cents it came from UN or WHO
[6:31 pm, 01/02/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
If anyone feel there is a need for a doctor to review their case, I believe one can ask for the service in the vaccination center.
[6:32 pm, 01/02/2021] +jimmy chew: Yeah my senior friend did. She got her jan and all is good
[6:33 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: To be safe, we have to assume we aren't, so we can continue our vigilance to maintain the safety
[6:39 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: 👍🏻 well said
[7:11 pm, 01/02/2021] +An fan: Are we close to developing our own vaccine yet?
[7:12 pm, 01/02/2021] +REACH: 🗣 #ICYMI: 01 Feb 2021 👇🏼👀
👉🏼 Bill introduced to make clear TraceTogether, SafeEntry data can be used to look into only 7 types of serious crimes: https://str.sg/JKyt
👉🏼 All polyclinics to offer COVID-19 vaccination from Feb 1: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/all-polyclinics-to-offer-covid-19-vaccination-from-feb-1-14086236
👉🏼 Gender identity issues 'bitterly contested sources of division'; Singapore 'should not import these culture wars': Lawrence Wong: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/moe-gender-identity-issues-gender-dysphoria-culture-wars-14086710
👉🏼 Public consultation on Dover Forest to be extended: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/dover-forest-public-consultation-extended-ulu-pandan-hdb-14086646
[7:13 pm, 01/02/2021] +An fan: Remember we have something like vaccines work for 56 days
[7:31 pm, 01/02/2021] +Alvin: 🤔
[7:34 pm, 01/02/2021] +jimmy chew: I heard test kit on saliva. Never heard about vaccine. Do we have the expertise?
[7:34 pm, 01/02/2021] +Rama: Hopefully
[7:35 pm, 01/02/2021] +Rama: It could be quietly being looked into.
[7:36 pm, 01/02/2021] +Rama: We already managed to produce our own mask filters.
[7:55 pm, 01/02/2021] +REACH: Singapore to launch multi-ministry Green Plan to tackle climate change challenges
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/singapore-green-plan-climate-change-sustainability-goals-14088522
[8:00 pm, 01/02/2021] +Nats: Got this paid survey conducted by Institute of Water Policy mention about paying towards such a change
Their disclaimer is of course that it's only their conjecture and gahmen didn't approve it or whatever though it's quite indicative of what future plans will be like
They had a few scenarios, adapt now (costing more but with a really low risk of flooding) or adapt over 40 years (costing less but with the risk of flooding higher)
It was an interesting survey
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