REACH (Telegram) 101 -  What are your views on the Ministerial Statement on Race and Religion?

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15 Oct 2025 (10am - 7pm)

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In Parliament yesterday (14 Oct), Coordinating Minister for National Security K Shanmugam delivered a Ministerial Statement on Race and Religion. Minister Shanmugam highlighted that while Singapore has tried to achieve the multiracial ideals in its pledge over 60 years of independence, it remains a work in progress. He warned that Singapore may look stable now, but it is “no more stable than other countries” before their communal relations became worse. If future generations of political leaders are tempted or pressured to engage in identity politics, we will experience the same conflicts and divisions we see unfolding elsewhere in the world.

💬 What are your views on the Ministerial Statement on Race and Religion?

📌 Singapore's Founding Principles

Minister Shanmugam highlighted that when Singapore became independent, it took a very different approach of multicultural integration. Singapore's founding fathers enshrined the foundational principles of unity in diversity, justice and equality in the National Pledge, and ensured that all citizens, regardless of race, language, or religion, were to have equal status. This created space to enhance mutual understanding and develop a common identity.

📌 Race and Religion in Politics

Referring to "troubling incidents" in the recent General Election, Minister Shanmugam emphasised that political parties should “immediately, clearly and unequivocally” reject any such attempts to interfere in Singapore’s political process in the future. He urged politicians to resist the destructive temptation to use race and religion in election campaigns for easy political wins, and steer clear of identity politics.

📌 A Work in Progress

Minister Shanmugam highlighted that ensuring equality for all races is still a "work in progress". He noted that incidents relating to racism and discrimination is the "lived realities" of minority groups, adding that a fraction of the Chinese community have also told of similar experiences. 

👉🏻 https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/parliamentary/ministerial-statement-on-race-and-religion

👉🏻 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/k-shanmugam-race-religion-identity-politics-parliament-work-in-progress-5400141

👉🏻 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/steer-clear-of-identity-politics-uphold-integrity-of-singapores-secular-system-shanmugam

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365, [15/10/2025 10:31 am]

Race and religion should not be used in politics, especially it is regarding foreign affairs, such as the war in Gaza. I really disliked it when it was brought up to garner votes in GE, it's not even a matter concerning Singaporeans.

I do feel that there has to be a form of balance for policing racial matters. There was a time when friends of different races could crack racial jokes at each other and laugh it off. In my view, that is much more harmonious than treading around the line so tightly nowadays, afraid of someone somewhere getting offended. 

Policing this too much makes the pendulum swing from one end of malice, to the other end of exclusivity in fear of offending people.

REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 11:00 am]

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REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 11:00 am]

[ Poll : 2. I support the Government's approach in handling race and religion issues. ]

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REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 11:03 am]

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💬 What are your views on the Ministerial Statement on Race and Religion?

Thank you.

Megan

G, [15/10/2025 11:14 am]

Please.. 

By it's very nature, the GRC system is race based politics

The reserved presidency that was pushed through disqualifies candidates based on race

Is he saying that it's ok for the incumbent to have race based politics since they were the ones who pushed through the above 2 policies?

G, [15/10/2025 11:19 am]

I'd rather time in parliament be put to much better use for discussion / tackling bread and butter issues, than waste time on needless and unnecessary politicking

G, [15/10/2025 11:20 am]

E.g. transport fares going up again despite so many disruptions.. it's like continuing to reward repeated failures

Daniel, [15/10/2025 11:22 am]

I think there are two different issues here:

One is politics and campaigning along racial and religious lines. This I feel is dangerous and will lead to a polarised climate.

The other one is policies that ensure participation and representation of all groups in the political process (the GRC or the president rule mentioned above or the nominated MPs). I feel that we can discuss on the implementation, but fundamentally it's important that a voice is given to minorities and underrepresented groups so that everyone feels involved. This in my opinion is crucial to social cohesion.

365, [15/10/2025 11:32 am]

It's not all just pros though. Forced inclusivity through quotas can lead an illusion of harmony, when in actual fact, it's more of tolerance rather than acceptance. It's just a time bomb waiting to go off.

True racial harmony will be when there are no rules to enforce a quota, yet all sides are equally represented. This is a bandaid on a wound that has not been disinfected.

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G, [15/10/2025 11:42 am]

So.. during campaigning, race based politics (e.g. minority voices) is dangerous.. but after that (GRC/reserved presidency etc) race based politics (e.g. minority voices) is ok because...?

Daniel, [15/10/2025 11:50 am]

Because the first one is telling people "We are representing this single group of people and making politics along their voice" whereas the second one says "we are making sure we're representing everyone and giving everyone a voice". This is my opinion, you are entitled to your own.

Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 12:19 pm]

The government has kept explaining the rationale of GRC  over and over and over and over again.

Yet, portion of people either refuses to accept the explanation, or keep thinking there is conspiracy behind the GRC thingy.

..........

It is like saying

it is wrong to use force, especially if it is used by people to commit crimes.

so why the police resort to force in catching criminals or detering crimes?

...

G, [15/10/2025 12:23 pm]

The very heart of GRC is race. Remove race from the equation and the very impetus for GRC falls apart.

Based on this, why is it wrong to say that the GRC is race based politics?

Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 12:28 pm]

you still do not understand? birds of the same feather flocks together...

tribalism?

people in general has a tendency for tribalism, you are a same race or same religion as me....so I vote for you...

Singapore has been independent since 1965, has been trying to educate Singaporeans since then on regardless of race, language or religion....

keeping policies secular....

and yet until now...there is portion of people trying to vote as accordingly to race or religion or language.

How do you remove race from the equation when it is genetically within all human.?

G, [15/10/2025 12:33 pm]

Yes, I don't understand why people deny that GRC is race based politics when it is clear that race is the basis for GRC

Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 12:39 pm]

then it is not the GRC system problem.

the issues lies in you. in your understanding or way of thinking that is preventing you from seeing and understand the problem and the solution GRC is providing.

GRC is a solutions, though not perfect, allowing the minority to be represented in the Parliament as voted MPs.

........

Think of it in this way. 

You provide a solution propasl that is better than GRC.

and it allows the minorities to be represented fairly.

post your solutions here, and we all peer review in it here.

take as long as you need....

..........

Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 12:50 pm]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSUaxvaXd/

malicious people are blackmailing and bullying businesses into complying to their political movements...

and fullerton hotel is surrendering itself to "terrorists" activists..online..

Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 12:57 pm]

this is a serious issues....the government should address this in the Parliament.

stop such "terrorism" before it spread like wild fire.... there "terrorists" seeing that their tactics is successful will keep repeating it over and over again...like bacteria...spreading its bacterial infection everywhere which eventually killed its host, Singapore

G, [15/10/2025 1:58 pm]

This is where you are mistaken. I never denied the rationale behind the GRC system and the problem it is trying to solve.

Is there a better solution like what you want? I don't know

I pointed out that GRC is race based because at the very heart of it, GRC is based on race. 

Now if you are saying GRC is not race based politics, then please describe it without going into explanation and rationalisation.

REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 2:03 pm]

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Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 2:18 pm]

Of course it is a race based system...

because race is the problem on unfair presentation of MP in Parliament if nothing is done to it 

.....

how to remove race from it if it is exactly race that is the problem..?

Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 2:19 pm]

i want chicken rice without the chicken and rice....

can it still be chicken rice?

Daniel, [15/10/2025 2:23 pm]

So are you saying the composition of MPs by race does not reflect the composition of the population? Or what exactly is the issue?

Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 2:28 pm]

you look at Malaysia....if a chinese candidate go to  malay majority area to contest...what is the likely probability that that chinese candidate be voted into Parliament.

Singapore is still not much different from malaysia..... despite becoming independent for over 60years..

race, religion and language still has an impactful factor when people choosing who to vote for..

.....

are we so naive and gullible to think we have reach a state where race, religion and language doesn't matter?

are we been realistic or we are been idealistic and refuse to see it as it is or we see thing based on what we want to see?

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:34 pm]

I have no issues with the current direction of religion and race

Daniel, [15/10/2025 2:35 pm]

Yeah, but then what is the issue you have with GRC? It seems to exactly address the problem you describe in Malaysia.

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:35 pm]

But for GRC I think it will be fairer if it's 3 people team to be fair

G, [15/10/2025 2:35 pm]

I'm glad you can see that GRC is race based. SG has had race based politics since at least 1988 (since GRC introduction)

Now.. Why shan want to blow up big big in parliament for unnecessary politicking?

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:35 pm]

The issue is one anchoring minister being a new bunch of dk who

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:36 pm]

While citing it is needed because of race

Adam, [15/10/2025 2:36 pm]

Its slightly funny how we have grc system so there representation of minority. But pap can be overrepresented despite vote being 61%

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:37 pm]

So it was one of the nmp suggested it but I think it's a good suggestion

Adam, [15/10/2025 2:37 pm]

Definitely if true voting, minorities will be much less because thats how democracy work, just like oppo has much less even if 40% vote them

Daniel, [15/10/2025 2:38 pm]

Yeah, never understood the logic of a first past the post system

Adam, [15/10/2025 2:39 pm]

If we wanna break down identity based politics even more, maybe in addition to race, have 50% male and female candidates in election

Adam, [15/10/2025 2:40 pm]

Im pretty sure people put gender identity over race

Daniel, [15/10/2025 2:41 pm]

Yes, I think we should aim for equal representation of women as well. One does not exclude the other.

365, [15/10/2025 2:41 pm]

That's how first past the post works, Trump won 2016 despite having less valid votes than clinton

G, [15/10/2025 2:42 pm]

Please.. The PAP went on a smear campaign on Tang Liang Hong (RIP) in 1997, accusing him to be  "Anti-Christian Chinese chauvinist". 

Isn't this blatant identity politics at play?

https://mothership.sg/2025/10/tang-liang-hong-dies/

Adam, [15/10/2025 2:44 pm]

I wonder if its even possible for singapore to change from fptp

Adam, [15/10/2025 2:45 pm]

Will be funny if pap gets more votes if they do so. Less people will vote oppo for protest

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365, [15/10/2025 2:47 pm]

Might be great, I can't rmb what the other voting method is called, but essentially you can pass on your vote down a list of parties / candidates in a priority order.

Adam, [15/10/2025 2:48 pm]

Theres a bunch out there. You might be thinking of ranked voting

Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 2:48 pm]

i disappointed to you you still insist.of

wanting chicken rice without the chicken and rice.

365, [15/10/2025 2:49 pm]

Yeah that's probably the one, though really useful only when there's more than 2 candidates or parties

Adam, [15/10/2025 2:50 pm]

Yeah. Ranked voting is still good but still gives pap a disproportionate supermajority since only got 2

365, [15/10/2025 2:51 pm]

I think it gives oppo more chances in multi cornered fight, since it prevents vote dilution for those who want to merely vote against incumbents

Adam, [15/10/2025 2:53 pm]

Imo instead of representation on racial lines, much more useful to have representation in policies singaporeans want. I.e. who we voted to represent us

365, [15/10/2025 2:55 pm]

The argument against this is that since majority is Chinese now, it'll lead to more people favoring Chinese candidates and in turn, more push for policies favoring racial Chinese citizens. It can be any race, just that the Chinese is currently the majority.

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:58 pm]

Race to me is nothing. It's the presentation of the candidates. Religion is the more tricky one

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:59 pm]

Which is harder to manage as every body thinks our religion is the best

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:59 pm]

And hope to influence more people to practice their religion

Khai Mun L., [15/10/2025 3:10 pm]

And it's easier to change religion compared to race

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 3:11 pm]

Exactly

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 3:13 pm]

In history religion thrives because it gets into politics and now a lot countries becomes a religious country

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 3:13 pm]

For eg. Indonesia was once a Buddhist country because the sultan believes in Muslim and now it is a Muslim country by law

Daniel, [15/10/2025 3:15 pm]

Yeah, I think keeping out religion from politics should be a priority!

365, [15/10/2025 3:19 pm]

I think this is something most if not all can agree on. Everyone is free to practice their religion, but don't impose your beliefs on others, through unwanted soliciting or even worse, through laws.

LCL (Danny 心), [15/10/2025 3:43 pm]

1. The Government pushed for :-

a. GRC - ensure minority representation in Parliament (Malay, Indian, Others)

b. Rotation minority President

- serve to :-

i. Ensure minorities voices and representation in Parliament as well as in the highest office - President (in rotation)

ii. "UNITE" Singapore different communities - foster harmony and peace - to serve Singapore Pledge  - regardless of race, language or religion - based on justice, equality and progress for our Nation.

2. WP identity and race-based politics in 2025 GE - on the contrary serve to "DIVIDE" the different communities - and serve to stoke emotion and trigger frictions among the various racial and religious communities :-

i. Eg. allowing foreign politicians - PAS to coerce voters to vote based on race - notably the WP Malay candidate Faisal Manap in Tampines - as well as another Malay WP female candidate and blow up Gaza cause to stoke Malay voters emotion in Tampines GRC.

ii. Harpeet Singh play along the lines of Indian voters - pushing to make Thaipusam to be make as public holiday an issue.

3. GE 2025 racial and religious issues that are raised by WP in a bid to win votes certainly annoyed me for allowing such sensitive issues to influence voting.

4. Few thoughts come to my mind.

i. My immediate thought is that Low Thia Kiang is a better leader - for not allowing race and religion to cloud their approach in GE in a bid to win votes - a gentleman fight who focus on Economy, bread and butter issues that benefits the voters.

ii. Bring up Gaza and Malaysia race based politics - which are non of our business into our GE - will stoke emotion and move friction up many folds - but don't serve our various communities interest - that is how to address our inflation, Economy, jobs and bread and butter issues.

5. And as predicted, both WP candidates lose both in Tampines and Punggol GRC - for playing the dangerous lines along race and religion.

6. I hope in future GE, WP don't play the races and religion cards again.

LCL (Danny 心), [15/10/2025 4:01 pm]

1. I witness in my eyes when I was in Punggol Mall -- whereby a long line of resident voters queue patiently to shake hands, hold up brief conversation and take photos with DPM Gan Kim Yong.

2. Then I notice Harpeet Singh and his 2 helpers come along. When he saw a long queue of resident voters waiting to shake hands and take photos with DPM Gan - he dance around the voters and trying to attract attention hoping the resident voters will walk up to him to shake hands with him, no one budge.

Even other residents that walk passed him didn't reach out to him to shake hands with him.

3. I took a photo of DPM Gan.

4. And when I trained my smartphone in an attempt to take a video of Harpeet Singh antics - his helpers realised it and immediately hold his arm and pulled him away. 

I didn't manage to capture him in the video - as they walked away very quickly.

Imagine if this video is captured and put in TikTok....

5. At that moment, it daunt on me the WP identity and race based politics that they play along in their rallies didn't go down well with the voters - and at that time, I predicted that WP will lose the Punggol GRC votes.

6. Of course, another factor that help DPM Gan and his team to win is the Economic Resiliency Taskforce as well as the good work done by their MPs in their wards.

REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 4:03 pm]

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LCL (Danny 心), [15/10/2025 4:42 pm]

1. Another thing i wish to highlight is that in a "Utopian State" --- different racial communities will accept one another and interact naturally, not perturb by the color of the skin and not distracted by different races, cultures or religions - accepting one another as One.

2. This is a Utopian State (only Enlightened Being can achieve such Utopian State) - a scenario that akin to "凡有所相，皆是虚妄。若见诸相非相，则见如来“。(Literally it means, anything appear in form is in fact an illusion. But if one is able to see a form as either form or formless - is an Enlightened Being).

Both Quantum Physics, Einstein Law of Relativity and Diamond Sutra confirm this phenomenon.

It means 

"Anything we see with our eyes, is an illusion." (This mirror quantum physics principle or Einstein "Spooky action at a distance" - whereby the Universe are make up of 2 platforms :-

a. Time platform - whereby Universe are rule by time, space and distance - that come with past, present and future where space,  distance and time assert "Reality" as we focus our attention at our current present moment (色) - "Form".

b. Timeless Quantum platform - whereby an equivalent pair of photon - an information is updated instantaneously - that transcend time (timeless), space and distance - in a Timeless Quantum Platform (空) - "Formless". （五蕴界空）。

（色不亦空。空不亦色。）(色既是空。空既是色） （Form = Emptiness. Emptiness = Form.)

Quantum experiment - Schrodinger cat experiment confirm this (Cat can be death or alive - Reality happens when it is focused on).

This is Quantum superposition - that is any human beings or beings can exist as "Alive, Death, Sick, Old" at the same time.

And according to Einstein - Human Being will never die. Energy will never die in the Universe - it will appear in another form in another part of the Universe if a human die.

(无生老病死。无老死尽）（不增不减）- Energy won't die. No energy in this Universe will be subtracted or added - under Quantum Mechanics - but will be transformed into another form.

3. There is a Unifying Physics - Classical Physics + Quantum Mechanics + Einstein Law of Relativity - that in theory able to explain how Universe is created and how Human Beings evolved.

(Note: It can create more than 1 Universe we live in - it can theoretically create multiple Universe - multiverse, parallel universes, Universe within a Universe).

In fact, scientist has created a "Baby Universe" within a lab (though it is unable to blow it up into the astronomic scale of the Universe in which we dwell in).

4. I got the Unifying physics model and the Math equation that create the Universe.

Scientists based on this model to create a "baby universe" - peer review and proof-read by scientists all over the world.

Unfortunately, this forum unable to attach images or videos.

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LCL (Danny 心), [15/10/2025 4:48 pm]

5. Since human beings are unable to attain such level of Enlightenment - structured approach to ensure our racial and religious harmony will still be required.

6. Hence I support our Government GRC and minority rotational President - to ensure fair representations of minorities in our Parliament and the role of President.

7. Unless our citizens of the various communities have attained such level of Enlightenment (to see beyond the color of the skin) to allow natural coexistence without the influence of the colour of the skin, races, religions, and culture.

8. Structure and political intervention such as GRC and president rotation among different races will still be required - if Singapore want peace, harmony and prosperity.

Khai Mun L., [15/10/2025 5:01 pm]

Though, sometimes definition of race is different. Especially nowadays with mixed races and nationalities

LCL (Danny 心), [15/10/2025 5:03 pm]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSDRTpvrM/

Quantum Mechanics.

Energy never die.

And the illusion of Time Platform Universe.

LCL (Danny 心), [15/10/2025 5:07 pm]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSUmRgGkY/

Quantum Immortality.

LCL (Danny 心), [15/10/2025 5:12 pm]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSUm88hhh/

Unifying Physics Model that create the Universe.

Plus the Math Equation.

LCL (Danny 心), [15/10/2025 5:18 pm]

Alamak only following can see, others cannot see.

How to change the TikTok settings to open to public.

LCL (Danny 心), [15/10/2025 5:23 pm]

If human beings can finally understand how Universe and human beings are created through the Unifying Physics Model - shouldn't religions converged and not fight among ourselves - "my religion is correct and yours is not"?

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 5:40 pm]

Hard for 末法时代.

Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 5:41 pm]

People only get worse and worse. And the world will get bad to worse

LCL (Danny 心), [15/10/2025 5:42 pm]

Hmmm...

Well there are people who are able to.

Our Singapore Government and our Civil Service as a collective whole is at this stage of Enlightenment.

Else they won't be able to formulate those policies that are aligned to Enlightenment.

REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 6:05 pm]

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REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 6:45 pm]

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LCL (Danny 心), [15/10/2025 6:59 pm]

https://babe118.blogspot.com/2025/10/unifying-physics-model-how-universe-is.html

REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 7:01 pm]

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Megan 😊

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After note:-

心法:
1. And this is in synch with 十二因缘法 (12 dependent origination of life).
How is life formed.

A thought is an energy.
Energy will never die in the universe.
A thought can reverbate throughout the Universe.
This is in synch with Quantum entanglement (timeless quantum platform) and Einstein Spooky action at a distance.

万法唯心造。
由因缘生。
由因缘灭。

A single stray thought (an energy) create consciousness - the beginning of Life).

This is how Life in Universe is formed.

2. The 12 dependent origination of Life are: ignorance, volitional formations, consciousness, name and form, the six sense bases, contact, feeling, craving, grasping, becoming, birth, and old age and death. (Form) (色) - Samsara Universe Time Platform.

This cycle explains how one link leads to the next, creating the process of life and death, but can be broken by ceasing ignorance and craving.  (Formless) (空) - Quantum Timeless Platform - Emptiness.

Emptiness of stray thought (妄念不起) (不起心动念) - cessation of life in the Universe and dwell in the Emptiness of Quantum Timeless Platform (Essentially, the Nirvana).

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REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 10:01 am]

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Parliament will sit today (14 Oct) at 11.30am. Coordinating Minister for National Security K. Shanmugam will deliver a ministerial statement on race and religion. Parliamentary questions will cover US pharmaceutical tariffs impact on Singapore, neighbour disputes and community mediation, and youth mental health. Five new bills will also be introduced, including a bill about workplace fairness measures.

💬 What are your thoughts on the issues to be discussed in Parliament today? Which area interests you the most?

📌 Race and Religion

Coordinating Minister for National Security K. Shanmugam will deliver a ministerial statement on race and religion. Mr Shanmugam had previously spoken about this topic at the Asia Future Summit on 9 October, discussing how racial and religious ties affect Singaporeans' positions on conflicts abroad and Singapore's approach to keeping ahead of threats to its cohesion. He also addressed the Parish of Christ Church's 85th anniversary dinner, emphasising that whilst Singapore recognises the role of religion in the community, it does not bring religion into politics or vice versa.

📌 US Pharmaceutical Tariffs

Seven MPs filed questions regarding the impact of US President Donald Trump's 100 per cent tariffs on branded drugs imported into the US, which took effect from 1 October. The tariffs are expected to significantly affect Singapore's pharmaceutical sector, which is a key pillar of the economy. MPs are seeking clarity on the expected impact on Singapore's pharmaceutical exports, future investments, supporting initiatives for affected companies, and whether negotiations are ongoing for tariff concessions. Questions also cover the breakdown of Singapore's pharmaceutical exports to the US and measures to help companies manage the impact.

📌 Neighbour Disputes and Community Mediation

Four questions have been filed on disputes between neighbours and existing intervention mechanisms. 

MPs sought updates about the pilot launch of the Community Relations Unit (CRU) in Tampines in April 2025, which was established to handle cases that escalate beyond what Community Mediation Centres can resolve. They asked questions about the effectiveness of the pilot launch, about the criteria for severe noise disputes and about the unit's enforcement powers. 

Questions were also asked about the number of compulsory Community Mediation Centre attendances which were directed by the Government and the number of neighbour dispute cases that escalated to violence, following a fatal knife attack on 24 September.

📌 Youth Mental Health

Several MPs have raised concerns about youth mental health, particularly in light of reports that suicide remains the leading cause of death among young people. 

Three MPs are asking about studies on mental health issues faced by students, standard clinical pathways linking schools to emergency departments for children at risk of self-harm, and whether the Ministry will pilot a 24/7 paediatric crisis line with mobile crisis teams.

📌 Workplace Fairness

The Workplace Fairness (Dispute Resolution) Bill will be introduced as the second part of planned changes to the Workplace Fairness Act at today's Parliament sitting. 

The Ministry of Manpower had previously invited public feedback in August on how workplace fairness disputes should be resolved. Proposals include hearing workplace fairness claims in private, given that discrimination disputes can be socially divisive, especially where race or religion is involved. This follows the earlier Workplace Fairness Bill passed in January, which gave workers greater protection against biases related to factors like age and nationality.

📌 Other Issues

Other parliamentary questions will cover migrant domestic worker safety, public service broadcasting funding, healthcare costs and insurance reforms, and cross-border transport services between Singapore and Johor Bahru.

👉🏻 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/shanmugam-to-deliver-ministerial-statement-on-race-and-religion-in-parliament-on-oct-14

REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 10:01 am]

👉🏻 https://www.parliament.gov.sg/parliamentary-business/order-paper

👉🏻 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/spore-not-immune-to-global-religious-tensions-racial-harmony-not-to-be-taken-for-granted-shanmugam

👉🏻 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/pharmaceutical-us-tariff-singapore-export-uncertainty-trump-5375376

👉🏻 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/housing/community-relations-unit-dealing-with-severe-noise-hoarding-cases-begins-1-year-pilot-in-tampines

👉🏻 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/yishun-knife-attack-woman-dies-after-noise-dispute-between-neighbours-man-arrested-for-murder 

👉🏻  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/community/314-suicides-reported-in-singapore-in-2024-remains-leading-cause-of-youth-deaths

👉🏻  https://www.straitstimes.com/business/mom-seeks-public-feedback-on-workplace-fairness-disputes-resolution

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REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 11:00 am]

[ Poll : Which issue(s) are you most interested in for today's Parliament sitting? Share your reasons in the chat! (You may choose more than one option.) ]

- Race and Religion

- US Pharmaceutical Tariffs

- Community Mediation and Community Relations Unit

- Youth Mental Health

- Workplace Fairness

- Others (please share your views in the chat below)

REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 11:01 am]

Dear Contributors,

Please take a moment to participate in our polls and share your opinion. The poll questions are pinned for easy reference, and your vote is anonymous and you can choose more than one option. 

We look forward to hearing your thoughts on today’s topic!

💬 What are your thoughts on the issues to be discussed in Parliament today? Which area interests you the most?

Thank you.

Megan 😊

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 11:03 am]

1. Yesterday saw the CNA news, witnessing the release of Israeli hostages and the release of Palestinian detainees.

2. The emotion display by their loved ones and their relatives around them certainly move me considerably.

3. Imagine worrying for your loved ones taken hostages for 2 years or many years as detainees.

4. The worries for the loved ones will be excruciating.

5. The message that is send across - peace and harmony are priceless.

6. Learn how to coexist peacefully and forge win-win outcomes for both communities rather than lock horn through hatred are priceless.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 11:07 am]

*Pharmaceutical tariff*

1. Finding alternative replacement market for our pharmaceutical industry become all the more pressing.

2. It is possible to find markets to absorb our $9.43 billions to US market for our pharmaceutical products and not let the US tariffs disrupt our export in pharmaceutical products.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 11:07 am]

"Xi Shows Trump Two Can Play at Export Curbs.

Chinese leader happy to fight fire with fire in trade spat with the US."

Trade data published today showcased China’s shipments overseas growing at their fastest pace in six months, blunting the impact of any tariff hike from the US.

Even without US market, China external trade is growing.

Trump, by contrast, needs to find markets for US soybeans that Beijing won’t buy, while the approaching Christmas season makes the potential for empty shelves more sensitive.

 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-10-13/xi-shows-trump-two-can-play-at-export-curbs#:~:text=Xi%20Shows%20Trump,with%20the%20US.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 11:10 am]

An example how China manoeuvre itself to find replacement markets for its products to replace the lost export going into US market.

I feel that we can do likewise in finding replacement markets for our pharmaceutical products.

Examples of replacement markets I can think off within our region are :-

1. China 

2. India 

3. ASEAN markets.

Export to China market are not subject to US sanctions unlike semiconductor chips.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 11:13 am]

393. I post in REACH (Telegram)  LCL (Danny 心), [8/9/2025 4:02 pm]:-

4. The introduction of Stablecoin will directly impact the functions of commercial banks.

5. Commercial banks deposit will be pulled away by Crypto Stablecoin issuers (which can be a foreign ones) - and Singapore banking system will be impacted - as depositers put their deposit into Stablecoin issuers which can be more risky.

6. The reasons being, even though StableCoin issuers are not allowed to give interest for deposit, they can offer higher rewards pulling away bank depositors and put their money into StableCoin.

7. But Stablecoin issuers are not covered by SDIC or US equivalent by $100,000. So if Stablecoin issuers default or collapse (which happens in many cases locally here and overseas) - depositors will lose all their savings.

8. Also banks losing depositors will not be able to provide loans to business or individuals, Central Banks unable to manage monetary policies to foster our economy in tandem with Government fiscal policies --- as money flow into Stablecoin Issuers (which can be foreigners) --- and trigger an outflow of capital threatening our financial hub.

9. To keep deposit into our commercial banks, our banks are forced to increase their interest rate - which means business and individuals will experience higher borrowing costs - that will impact our Economy and economic development - as business cost will become higher.

10. Hence our Government will need to look at financial reform to tackle this challenges - as part of the Economic refresh.

LCL (Danny 心), [8/9/2025 5:08 pm]

11. That's, our commercial banks may also have to look into being a Stablecoin issuers that can effect cross border payment for trade settlement and remittance.

12. This will ensure our deposit will not be floated away to crypto issuers but stay with our commercial banks and cement our status as financial hub.

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Business Times Published Wed, Oct 1, 2025 · 10:08 AM

A Singapore dollar-backed stablecoin, XSGD, was launched on the Coinbase cryptocurrency exchange on Wednesday (Oct 1) in partnership with its issuer, StraitsX. It is pegged to the Singapore dollar at a one-to-one rate and is fully backed by reserve assets held by DBS and Standard Chartered. 

“I think what we are seeing with XSGD is a potential next step into what we see as liquidity into the weekends,” he said, pointing to stablecoins’ ability to fulfil cross-border transactions while banks are shut.

Still, stablecoins such as XSGD are expected to “coexist” with the traditional financial system and should end up primarily serving institutional use cases that require speed and round-the-clock availability.

365, [14/10/2025 11:15 am]

One thing about religion, can we do something about evangelism? I'm perfectly fine with people going about practicing their own beliefs, as long as they don't come looking for me, especially when it's unsolicited, to preach about their beliefs.

I've encountered it 3 times, and every time it's the same religion, making me habour some animosity towards them.

365, [14/10/2025 11:16 am]

Free practice of religion doesn't mean anyone should be allowed to intrude the personal space of others in the name of religion.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 11:22 am]

Thought this is not allowed.

It use to be quite rampant decades ago.

But not commonly seen nowadays.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 11:25 am]

LCL (Danny 心) (15Sep2026, 6.10pm):

One simple way to solve the 14 to 18 years old bypass - is to request Google to change Android parental control to 18 years old instead of 13 years old.

Problem solved.

LCL (Danny 心):

So Govtech can save alot of development efforts and government can save taxpayers money - just work with Google to change the age parameter from 13 years old to 18 years old in the "Family Link app".

Note:- Restrictions at the OS level will stop bypass via VPN because limited administration rights prevent the installation of VPN in the child device.

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Straits Times Published Oct 03, 2025, 04:30 PM (Updated Oct 03, 2025, 10:36 PM)

Google to screen, block S’pore users under 18 years old from inappropriate apps by March 2026.

Age assurance measures refer to methods to ascertain a user’s age – either by using government-issued identity documents, or by analysing facial age or online usage data. 

“This isn’t just about giving parents more tools. It’s about our systems automatically providing an added layer of protection to ensure that every young person has age-appropriate experiences,” said Google Singapore managing director Ben King at a Safer with Google event held in its Pasir Panjang office.

REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 11:38 am]

Dear Contributors,

Parliament sitting is now live.

Catch the livestream of today's Parliament sitting here: 

https://www.youtube.com/live/ODsF3WxD_6o?si=8qo-OG3x7nh3Gaqy

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 11:50 am]

That's we must learn how to operate our trade as "World minus One".

This is not what we want, but it is thrust upon us.

We need to accept the challenge and navigate ourselves out of the situation and not let it seize us by our neck.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 12:01 pm]

As for noise dispute, wonder should HDB and condo impose a minimum noise reduction measure of:-

1. Contractor must build a noise absorption flooring between floors.

2. I notice that children, dragging of furniture, banging on the floor, bouncing balls, stomping on the floor, dropping marbles etc are the biggest noise irritants to the lower floor.

3. Thinking aloud, if acoustic flooring are mandated between floors, it will go a long way to cut down noise irritants between floors.

4. Realise that the killing because of noise disputes between neighbors on top and below floor can be avoided if acoustic flooring is mandated in BTO flats and private condos.

5. For other noise reduction measures such as double windows and doors, it should be optional for household to choose to have or not.

But fire rated doors are usually noise reducing.

REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 12:24 pm]

Dear Contributors, 

You may catch the livestream of the Parliament sitting here: https://www.youtube.com/live/xUFmwjPAIYw

Thank you! 

Megan 😊

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 12:24 pm]

6. As for outdoor open court picket balls, it is really very noisy - and could disturb the residents even during day time.

7. Wonder why not make picket ball court indoor - in CC like badminton court convertible into picket ball court - whoever book first.

8. Another recommendation is that, can picket bats be transformed into cushion or rubber material that will absorb noise rather than plain wood that produce a very sharp "piak piak" sounds that are very loud and irritable.

9. Can the picket ball be transformed into rubber material that can absorb noise rather than the plastic type like table tennis ball producing high pitch "piak piak sounds".

10. A simple change in design of the picket bats and balls - can go a long way to solve the ongoing irritant and conflict within the neighborhood.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 12:26 pm]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSUyw6eQw/

Turn on the smartphone audio and listen to the high pitch picket ball noise.

It can upset residents subjected to long hours of such noise.

365, [14/10/2025 12:32 pm]

I can imagine how annoying the pickleball will be, especially late into the night

365, [14/10/2025 12:33 pm]

It's not like they cannot exercise, there's low volume alternatives such as tennis, which honestly I don't think differ from pickleball much in exercise form, but is much lower volume

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 12:37 pm]

11. Another thing about noise pollution is the void deck turn "funeral parlour".

12. With super aging society, elderly passing away seems to be quite a normal sight nowadays.

13. As a result, void deck become a "regular" funeral parlour.

14. My void deck below has always being given the license to held wake - every other weeks, and for the last 2 weeks in succession.

15. Wonder why town council keep giving licence to held wakes at the same void deck and turn it into a "funeral parlour"?

16. My neighborhood precinct void deck seems to take turn to become wake and funeral parlour.

17. The night chanting is endurable because loud speakers are not used. And out of respect to the deceased, we normally can tolerate.

18. But the last day when they are send for burial, the loud drums, music and gongs are unbearable because they will play the music at the top of the noise.

19. Imagine this happens more than frequently due to so many wakes around my areas.

20. And it happens during the exam period when students need to study for exams.

21. There is an open areas outside the residential areas, why can't the town council issue license to be held at the open areas instead of below the void deck.

22. With super aging, more wakes will be expected and the void deck soon become a de facto "funeral parlour ".

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 12:38 pm]

I think elderly can sustain their stamina with picket ball.

Tennis will be too high tempo for them.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 12:42 pm]

I realized staying in hotel, noises are unnoticeable and unheard of.

Because hotels do a good job in acoustic.

Of course this will come with higher cost.

But mandating acoustic flooring between floors will keep cost not too high for BTO flats and private condos.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 12:53 pm]

1. I think for relatively new estates like Punggol, Sengkang, biddari, Tengha - where residents are young, void deck turn "funeral parlour" are uncommon sight.

2. But older estates with high concentration of elderly, void deck turn "funeral parlour" have become a regular affair.

3. I suggest designating some open areas for "wakes" should be a long term solution - rather than turning void deck into "funeral parlour" and residents don't have peaceful rest.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 12:59 pm]

4. Also thinking aloud, the older estates with only 15 floor with high concentration of elderly can turn out such regular wakes.

5. With newer BTO design flats of 30 floors, the same footfall per resident density become double.

6.Now these are young residents.

But few decades down the road, the void deck will run out of spaces to hold wakes.

7. Should dedicated open spaces or close areas be design into new estates to cater for dedicated wakes service rather than using the void deck?

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:05 pm]

A lot people talk about law and order but what I want to say the facilities needs to keep up with current trend. Maybe allow indoor sports hall to be open 24/7?

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:06 pm]

As I noticed indoor sports hall tend to close around 10 while the problem is people playing at midnight

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:07 pm]

Places in community club can open public courts 24/7 for people have the opportunity to play

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:08 pm]

Who going to manage them? Hire more people or volunteers lah. People in their 70 wants to get employ can be employed mah

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 1:30 pm]

*As for youth suicide*

1. Wonder what are the root causes?

2. Without knowing the underlying root causes, it is very difficult to prescribe solutions.

3. Is it mental challenge or mental sickness like depression that needs psychiatrist intervention and medication?

4. Is it life stressors like difficult family trigger matters?

5. Is it difficulty in coping with study, jobs, relationship, friends in social circle, or money matters?

6. I think knowing the root causes will help in formulating solutions.

7. For a person to end their lives is not an easy matter, the person must have muster great resolve to take their own life in matters which they feel unable to resolve and had come to a dead end with no way out.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:33 pm]

I have not met anyone going suicide. But the outlook in the future for young people may be bad. And stressors from family members can be demanding

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 1:34 pm]

But there is always solutions to any problem.

No need to end a person life to resolve it.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:34 pm]

While a lot of time family members can paint a good picture but the young ones are not being able to voice out

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:35 pm]

And how many people are willing to seek for help

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:36 pm]

After all people are going to judge them and people think a lot of different consequences after asking for help.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:37 pm]

Cause it's not like they can run away or solve the problem on their own

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 1:37 pm]

Anything unhappy must voice out.

Family members must give a listening ears and the ability to emphatise.

Don't drive anyone in distress into a corner.

Finally, every problem or issue, there will always be a way out.

Don't need to feel distress.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:38 pm]

Sometimes it's emotional unhappiness but on paper there's no reason to be unhappy

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 1:38 pm]

Mental strength very important.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:42 pm]

Suicide can happen by simple reason like daddy don't want to buy a toy for me because my results is not that good.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 1:43 pm]

Then the youth lack mental strength.

Cannot be ending own life on such small matter.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:43 pm]

Or maybe that is just a trigger but deep down there's more

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:43 pm]

Like peer pressure etc...

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:44 pm]

It's just many factors sometimes it's just overwhelming and adds up

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 1:45 pm]

That is why need to map out the root causes of each suicide cases so that right solutions can be targeted.

Without knowing the root causes, we could just be firing from the hip and miss the target.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:46 pm]

SOS whatsapp service is a good service for people to talk too

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:46 pm]

As youth nowadays we don't like to talk through phone

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:46 pm]

I hope there's more such service

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 1:47 pm]

Yes.

Provided if more people actively participate in the discussion.

Else there will be less diverse voices and not enough information is not a virtue as we don't know where the problems lies.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:48 pm]

I hope it's extend to other gov services too like 1799

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:49 pm]

So people can forward WhatsApp messages and chat with them if it is legit

Daniel, [14/10/2025 1:49 pm]

I think noise issues can be very subjective and hard to prove. I think need to be a bit tolerant during day time, I think noise of things like wakes, weddings, ball sports and normal activities during day time should be accepted as part of living in an HDB ( I too live in an old town with plenty of funerals). When my kids were younger, I had a neighbour coming up to complain  about my kids playing normally while being at home during covid quarantine. Only so much I can do during day time. 

Of course night time is a different issue, and we should definitely find solutions for people being disturbed by noisy neighbour or passers-bys at night.

365, [14/10/2025 1:49 pm]

While we want to protect against mental issues, I think we are looking at death as a taboo for too much

365, [14/10/2025 1:50 pm]

I have heard (hearsay only) that some studies show people with thoughts of suicide, while being perfectly mentally fine

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 1:50 pm]

We can discuss about consequences of death

365, [14/10/2025 1:50 pm]

There are those that truly believe that there's no longer any meaning in life, although this group tends to be much older

Daniel, [14/10/2025 1:52 pm]

One aspect that I would like to be seen more weight given is cigarette smoke from neighbours. It is really bad, especially with kids around. And not much I can do to protect myself in an older HDB that is naturally ventilated. By the time I smell the smoke, it's too late already and even if I hen close the window the smoke is there already. Maybe can ask people to close their windows when smoking or something along those lines.

365, [14/10/2025 1:53 pm]

If I'm not wrong smoking within hdb is already illegal, but the enforcement isn't there yet

365, [14/10/2025 1:54 pm]

It's quite a challenge to enforce something within your own home

365, [14/10/2025 1:55 pm]

I'm lucky to not encounter this issue, but also can't think of a solution for enforcement

Daniel, [14/10/2025 1:58 pm]

Yeah, it's a tricky issue. It's allowed to smoke in your own flat (and I don't think this should change, it's your own space after all) but not in common areas. But there's really not much that can be done if you're affected by smoke from a neighbouring unit as of now. Also it's not easy to know where the smoke is coming from.

Daniel, [14/10/2025 1:59 pm]

We had to move our newborn to a different room because smoke from below kept on seeping into the master bedroom in the middle of the night even after closing the windows and sealing the toilet door.

REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 2:00 pm]

📢 Topic 📢

REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 2:07 pm]

📣 Live: Minister Shanmugam answers clarifications about the ministerial statement on race and religion

Follow this live blog to keep up to date with parliamentary proceedings:

https://www.straitstimes.com/live-singapore-parliament-oct-2025

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 2:30 pm]

"First of its kind drone interceptor among new tech unveiled by Singapore’s Home Team".

Strange not jamming intruding drones through comm RF or GPS signals.

Wonder through what means? 

News article didn't say....

 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/home-team-ai-robot-tech-autonomous-vehicles-htx-edwin-tong-5398176#:~:text=First%20of%20its%20kind%20drone%20interceptor%20among%20new%20tech%20unveiled%20by%20Singapore%E2%80%99s%20Home%20Team

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 2:33 pm]

As a techie, I really curious what technologies or techniques are used to jam or intercept offending drones without jamming the RF signal or GPS signal?

Also understand that some military attached fibre optics to fly their drones without using RF signal or GPS signal.

Does the HTX anti-drone able to jam or intercept fiber optics drones?

Just curious....

Hmm.... National security?

Cannot reveal the techniques....

Oh saw this:-

"pursuing and capturing them with a net."

So the following conditions must be in place:-

1. Detection 

2. Location tracking 

3. Interception

4. Speed to pursue

5. Throwing of nets to trap

6. Pull the trapped offending drones into a safe location to disarm the offending drones.

REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 2:38 pm]

Dear Contributors, 

In case you missed it, here are some updates from the proceedings so far:

On Minister Shanmugam’s Ministerial Statement:

➡️ https://cna.asia/4havQq6

➡️ https://cna.asia/4hdczEr

On US pharmaceutical tariffs

➡️ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/singapore-based-pharma-firms-awaiting-confirmation-on-tariff-exemption

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 3:08 pm]

1. Drones are usually low observable RCS (radar cross section) - hence difficult to detect by radar.

2. Also drones fly at low altitude - outside radar range.

3. Wonder using what sensors deployed to detect offending drones?

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 3:10 pm]

https://mothership.sg/2025/10/fullerton-hotel-friends-of-israel-no-dinner/

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 3:10 pm]

4. Also interceptor drones don't use GPS signal.

5. Wonder how to do location tracking of offending drones, intercept it at high speed and then spray the net...... without GPS?

🤔 Very curious to know.

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 3:28 pm]

The important and critical long term concern is religious politics movement.

the ugly politics of religious movement against israel is gainning tractions in Singapore.

why are they allowed hijack Singapore politic for their religious political in supporting palestine and against israel?

the gaza conflict is jihad against israel and the whole of humanity

why are these portion of activists, jihad and terrorism supporter allowed to hijack Singapore into such nonsense politics?

Already the universities of Singapore is infected and inflitrated by such dangerous ideology that is creating chaos all over the whole.

time to put a stopped to such dangerous people that will endanger Singapore.

......

If the movement is about charity, and humanitarian aid to help the people suffering from the conflict that it is acceptable..

but to inject it with "from the river from to the sea", I am really "religiously" offended by it, because it is a political religious element calling for extermination of israel, jews...

.....

instead of blaming the hamas on their jihad and terrorism against israel and jews, the free palestine movements only blame israeal for their fight for survival. These activists blatantly excuses the real criminal of hamas, jihadists.

Even our ex president posted in Facebook blaming israel and leaving out the atrocities of hamas..

As a non believers and secular person i am "religiously" insult by these people hijacking Singapore into the free palestines Nonsense because it contain political religious element in such movement, using the suffering of palestinians as a cannon fodder and cover for political religious activites..

...............

Please treat this very very very seriously..these activists and free palestine supporters are eroding away Singapore's harmony bits by bits, and they are indirectly supporting jihad and terrorism. in this unjust one sided blaming of israel.

...

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 3:35 pm]

mental health issues....

is an indication that a portion of Singapore having difficulties in dealing and coping with stress....be it financially, relationship wise...

they see such these as a problems that they cannot resolved...and as it drags on long term, it mutates into mental health problems.

............

unfortunately i have no feasible solution on it.

it bores down to the individual personality, resiliency, attitude and character and family support and social support.

...........

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 3:37 pm]

躺平, is a person choosing to run away from a difficult problem...

and if left unchecked..it too will lead to mental health issues..

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 3:44 pm]

"Caning for scammers and mules on the cards, as Singapore looks to toughen criminal laws

The measure was first raised as a possibility earlier in 2025."

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/parliament-mha-scammers-caning-penal-code-law-bill-amendment-sim-ann-5400056#:~:text=Caning%20for%20scammers,earlier%20in%202025.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 3:45 pm]

I support caning of scammers to rid the scourge of scams.

Victims suffer not only financial pain, but also mental pain from losing their live savings.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 3:49 pm]

"Singapore’s economy grew 2.9% in third quarter, beating expectations.

The GDP figure is slower than the revised 4.5 per cent growth in the previous quarter, but analysts say the impact from US tariffs is not as bad as previously feared."

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/singapore-economy-grows-2-9-cent-third-quarter-2025-mti-advance-estimates-5399906#:~:text=Singapore%E2%80%99s%20economy%20grew%202.9,bad%20as%20previously%20feared.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 3:52 pm]

Look like Singapore economy is quite well diversified.

Also look like we are able to find replacement markets for our exports hit by US tariffs market for us to register growth despite the high tariff.

So I think like China, our strategy to build middle power blocs to trade rather than uni-power dominated trade is working.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 3:56 pm]

I support it too. And not only on money mules but identify the head syndicate and place them on wanted list

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 3:57 pm]

Cause I receive a lot of scam calls with Malaysia accent recently

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 3:57 pm]

Provided the scam head is in Singapore.

China caught the syndicate heads and gangs.

Sentence - death penalty.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 3:58 pm]

From people claiming they are from ntuc union and gov officials

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 3:59 pm]

Cross border operation as a lot of them operates in Malaysia

REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 4:01 pm]

📢 Topic 📢

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 4:01 pm]

The scam center is normally not around our immediate neighbors.

But further up north - Cambodia, Myanmar and Laos.

If in Malaysia, easily caught.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 4:03 pm]

Because Malaysia Telecom are quite well regulated. And Malaysia government quite on the ball in raiding scam centers.

Whereas the other 3 use satellite, starlink to run their scam operations (government tracking them very loose or close one eye) - unless China exert pressure.

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 4:16 pm]

the religious politics eroding Singapore's politics is not new...

Mr Lee Kuan Yew in his last rally in 1990 mentioned it...

" ....islam is a total all embracing philosophy....the charismatic christians tell me the same ...if this goes on we going to have unpleasantness.." as stated and said by Mr Lee Kuan Yew.

by manap

"...islam is a way of life, it emcompasses every aspect of life....i can't separate the 2 entity of politics and religion..."

i don't remember and cannot find any video that he reply to Mr Shanmugam in a clear unambiguous answer.

(it happened in 2019)

Since 1990 to 2019, 29 years....people still cannot separate religions from politics....

and it is getting worse bits by bits....

.......

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 4:19 pm]

Even our ex president

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 4:21 pm]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/faith-community-baptist-church-drops-high-court-review-over-sacking-of

.......

this cases was settled..with talk between one of MP and the church....

....

this may seem minor...it is NOT minor issue...

religious organization making decisions on  poltics and employment issues based on religious moral standard instead of law and secular standard is not something minor...

every bits and pieces of such minor incident stacks up...until a critical point.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 4:22 pm]

I guess religion have all the philosophical aspects and it's a habit as our MP are from different religions too

Adam, [14/10/2025 4:23 pm]

Wow very worrying. What if we pull up ratio of religion in our ministers. Im pretty sure race is proportional to population due to grc system. How about religion. Is one more represented in our leadership?

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 4:24 pm]

Mr Lee Kuan Yew is an atheist.

Mr Lee Hsien Loong is Christian... However, Mr LHL is able to keep his religious beliefs separate from politics

.....

corrections as below

No — Lee Hsien Loong is not a Christian.

He has stated publicly that he is a Buddhist.

In interviews and speeches (including those reported by The Straits Times and Channel NewsAsia), he has mentioned following Buddhist teachings and values, while emphasizing respect for Singapore’s multi-religious harmony.

Source:- ChatGpt, DeepSeek

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 4:27 pm]

But if the church member see the MP he has to write to the church right

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 4:28 pm]

He cannot turn in to a blind eye

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 4:29 pm]

Mr Shamnugam is the guardian upholding it... diligently...

i know little about the new generation of leaders... thus do not know who will take over Mr Shamnugam's role..

and do not how reliable is the person taking over....

yet to do a profiling on the person.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 4:33 pm]

No — Lee Hsien Loong is not a Christian.

He has stated publicly that he is a Buddhist.

In interviews and speeches (including those reported by The Straits Times and Channel NewsAsia), he has mentioned following Buddhist teachings and values, while emphasizing respect for Singapore’s multi-religious harmony.

Source:- ChatGpt, DeepSeek

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 4:33 pm]

my mistake...thanks for the corrections..

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 4:34 pm]

Anyway, LHL is a very serious meditator.

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Source:- ChatGpt 

Yes — Lee Hsien Loong does practice meditation seriously, particularly mindfulness and Buddhist-style meditation.

He has spoken publicly about it on several occasions. For example:

🧘‍♂️ During a 2018 Buddhist Fellowship dialogue, he mentioned that he practices meditation regularly to calm the mind and maintain focus, saying it helps him handle the stress and heavy responsibilities of leadership.

He has also noted that meditation helps cultivate clarity and compassion, which align with Buddhist values he personally holds.

In interviews, he’s described mindfulness as part of how he maintains composure and good decision-making under pressure.

So yes — Lee Hsien Loong is known to take meditation seriously, both as a spiritual discipline and a mental practice.

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 4:37 pm]

https://youtu.be/GO5FwsblpT8?si=-hVjTkIfSTj9l6zp

i visions of Singapore...as stated by Carl Sagan in his book pale blue dot..

.....

I living in the little red dot on the pale blue dot.

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 4:39 pm]

"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every cre-ator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and em-perors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the end-less cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our spe-cies could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and charac-ter-building experience. There is perhaps no better demon-stration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. 

To me, it underscores our responsi-bility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

May 11, 1996

Carl Sagan

............

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 5:01 pm]

JUST IN: Singapore's public transport fares are going up by 5% overall, effective Dec 27, 2025. Adult cardholders will pay up to 10 cents more per ride.

See details: https://cna.asia/4omJtF6

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 5:04 pm]

Aiyoh.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 5:31 pm]

Strange.

No one talk about workplace fairness....

Seems like everyone happy at the workplace...

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 5:55 pm]

taxi driver here.... workplace fairness..is a bit tricky to catch....and dealt with...all sorts of creativity excuse and reason

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 5:58 pm]

Sorry don't understand the issue.

REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 6:01 pm]

📢 Topic 📢

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:08 pm]

Canning of scammer. Now is more of putting up guards on women. As women cannot be canned

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:09 pm]

We guys are the most vulnerable people

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:09 pm]

Hahaha...

Extend jail sentence.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:09 pm]

But 1 stroke= 1 month?

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:10 pm]

Parliament, the lawmakers decide.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:10 pm]

Tbh extended jail sentence just not sound deterrent enough

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:10 pm]

Need to specify how much jail sentence or something

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:11 pm]

Or maybe putting it in the law of minimum sentence for women more than man as cannot be canned

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:12 pm]

I think it will send a more deterrent message

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:13 pm]

Like specify in news article

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:13 pm]

I think when they decide sentence, it must be equitable on the outset regardless of gender.

If caning cannot be carried out, then extend punishment.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:14 pm]

Usually punishment are carefully considered.

Not onerous to the point of becoming cruelty.

But sufficient deterrent to meted out punishment and repentance.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:18 pm]

If I were to write the law I wouldn't use canning as punishment instead I might force them to declare bankruptcy for 5 yrs after jail.

Joomua Tng, [14/10/2025 6:19 pm]

as taxi driver and forex trader... workplace fairness is.. not a concern....

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:21 pm]

bankruptcy min 5 year or till after they have repay all the victims. Whichever comes later

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:21 pm]

No right or wrong.

I think the purpose of the law are :-

1. Meted punishment - to punish wrong doing.

2. To deter wrongdoing.

3. To allow offenders to rehabilitate and return to society.

Whether jail, caning, impose bankruptcy etc or otherwise.

The issue is scam - cause tremendous harm to the victims - hence need strong deterrent.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:22 pm]

I see.

This is what you mean....

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:22 pm]

Self employed don't have such thing as fairness

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:22 pm]

I see.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:22 pm]

You only work 24/7 no holidays

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:23 pm]

Hand stop money stop

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:23 pm]

You can rest if you are tired or go holiday with your family.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:27 pm]

For cross border transport perhaps Singapore company can partner with Malaysia company. So we can do point to point. For eg. We pick up from my house to JB designated terminal and the the Singapore company can help to switch a Malaysia car and driver to continue the journey to Malaysia destination.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:28 pm]

In a way it doesn't break the law and it suits the customers demand

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:29 pm]

I think as long as they don't eat into the pie of our transport workers here, don't congest our roads - I think is worth considering.

Because this will help our transport workers get more orders in the point to point delivery.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:30 pm]

What customer ultimately looking for is convenience and value for money

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:31 pm]

Else our neighbors drivers can anyhow come in take away the business of our transport drivers and clog up our roads.

Jun Ming, [14/10/2025 6:33 pm]

If not current model doesn't favour customers. Only go to the terminal only. I want to go kl, Ipoh got headache.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:34 pm]

I agree.

Adam, [14/10/2025 6:34 pm]

I dont think we should protect transport workers just for the sake of it

Adam, [14/10/2025 6:34 pm]

If ai drivers come, are we gonna ban ai to protect jobs?

Adam, [14/10/2025 6:36 pm]

Why do we protect low skill jobs when we can allocate more high skill jobs for singaporeans?

Adam, [14/10/2025 6:37 pm]

Ai will eat into pie everywhere. If we dont find an exit plan for taxi drivers being undercut by malaysians, self driving cars will be a bigger shock.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:40 pm]

1. Self driving cars will not be able to navigate complicated roads for at least 10 years.

2. Even for China, AV cars only drive on pre planned roads.

3. If for AV to drive in expressway, navigate small roads (without widening the roads), go into unfamiliar roads, chances of accident occuring very high.

This is the nature of AI.

Adam, [14/10/2025 6:41 pm]

10 years will pass by very fast. If we let taxi drivers keep on driving for 9 years and suddenly tell them take skillfuture last year, can they do it?

Adam, [14/10/2025 6:42 pm]

Long term we need to push away people from careers that will likely be replaced.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:42 pm]

5. Chances of hybrid, human drivers and AV vehicles co-existing is very high even after 10 years.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:43 pm]

6. This applies to many white collar and blue collar jobs.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:44 pm]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/deloitte-partially-refund-australia-government-report-apparent-ai-generated-errors-5387971

Deloitte to partially refund Australian government for report with apparent AI-generated errors.

AI not foolproof.

Without human checking, hallucinations errors will occur.

Reputation damage and compensation will be hefty.

Adam, [14/10/2025 6:44 pm]

Yeah we can always have people drive. Like we always have people manning fast food counter.

But would you continue driving if you are paid as much as a chatgpt subscription

Adam, [14/10/2025 6:45 pm]

I hire you drive $100/mo plus fuel cost

Adam, [14/10/2025 6:46 pm]

Job exist what. Maybe you can call it service to nation. Always need essential worker

REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 6:47 pm]

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LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:48 pm]

AI increasingly turning into a bubble.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:48 pm]

"GIC’s chief investment officer warns of AI bubble risk.

If it fails to meet the high expectations priced in by the market, it could result in a sudden loss of value"

Jialat.

I think it will affect mainly US AI companies who have invested hundred of billions of $ into AI.

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/gics-chief-investment-officer-warns-ai-bubble-risk#:~:text=GIC%E2%80%99s%20chief%20investment,loss%20of%20value

Adam, [14/10/2025 6:48 pm]

If ai bubble rip temasek

Adam, [14/10/2025 6:49 pm]

So much investments

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:51 pm]

The truth about AI is over hype, over invested.

AI investment cannot deliver the results that are promised.

Human brains are still supreme for many years to come.

Hence the likely result is hybrid - human as the main drivers, AI as supporting tools like internet, like computers.

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:53 pm]

"The critical edge for AI in Singapore.

Pairing the power of centralised data centres with speed and efficiency of local compute can maximise Republic’s potential in the technology"

Singapore expected to have $28 billion benefit in productivity through AI.

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/opinion-features/critical-edge-ai-singapore#:~:text=The%20critical%20edge,in%20the%20technology

LCL (Danny 心), [14/10/2025 6:56 pm]

But as long as we treat AI with the right mindset of "techno-optimist" - then countries like China and Singapore can reap very good outcome from AI using AI as a supporting tools.

US invested trillions of dollars eg. Nividia, Open AI, Google, Meta etc - very jialat - how to recoup trillions of profit short of firing workers massively - through techno-pessimistic approach?

AI bubble sure crash.

REACH Singapore, [14/10/2025 7:02 pm]

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Mindfulness in every present moment is diligence - the path to Enlightenment.

 https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSUkGrNrD/

1. Mindfulness in every present moment is diligence - the path to Enlightenment.

2. Meditation is to cultivate individual habit in developing "Concentration" and "Mindfulness" in every present moment.

3. Concentration and Mindfulness at every present moment will keep unwholesome thoughts, speech and actions from (Ignorance, Hatred, Greed, Arrogant, Sceptical minds) out.

4. Enlightenment will come one day when minds are "Empty" and "Cleanse of unwholesome thoughts, speeches and actions".

Unifying physics model how Universe is created

 LCL (Danny 心):

[03/10, 1:26 am] ☸️  Danny 心: My son told me the below model is the unifying model of how Universe is created:-

[03/10, 1:28 am] ☸️  Danny 心: My son told me the below physic is the unifying physic computation of how Universe is created:-

LCL (Danny 心), [15/10/2025 5:12 pm]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSUm88hhh/

Unifying Physics Model that create the Universe.

Plus the Math Equation.

REACH (Telegram) 99 -  What are your views on the updates in the latest population figures?

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01 Oct 2025 (10am - 7pm)

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REACH Singapore, [1/10/2025 10:00 am]

📢 Topic 📢

Singapore's population rose 1.2% to 6.11 million according to the Population in Brief 2025 report on 29 Sept. The increase was mainly due to growth in the non-resident population such as more work permit holders in the construction sector and domestic helpers. Meanwhile, the nation's population continued to age rapidly, and a higher proportion of Singaporeans remained single.

💬 What are your views on the updates in the latest population figures?

As at June 2025, Singapore had 3.66 million citizens, a slight increase from 3.64 million citizens a year ago. The number of permanent residents (PRs) remained unchanged at 0.54 million.

The remaining 1.91 million people were non-residents, with the foreign workforce making up about two-thirds of this group. The remaining one-third comprised mainly domestic helpers, dependants and students.

📌 Population Growth

Singapore’s annualised population growth rate over the past five years was 1.5%, compared with 0.5% in the preceding five years from 2015 to 2020. This was mainly due to an increase in the number of work permit holders in the construction sector to support key infrastructure projects, such as Changi Airport Terminal 5 and the ramping up of housing supply.

The city state’s non-resident population grew by 2.7% year on year to 1.91 million in June. It added 34,000 foreign workers between June 2024 and June 2025, compared with 39,000 in the preceding year. The 34,000 figure refers to the foreign workforce across all pass types, from work permit holders to employment pass holders, but it excludes domestic helpers.

📌 Citizens Birth and Marriages

The report said that the resident total fertility rate was 0.97 in 2024, unchanged from 2023. Singaporean families are getting smaller, with fewer children per family. The report noted that the proportion of singles has been rising in recent years. Between 2019 and 2024, the proportion of singles rose across almost all male and female age groups. 

"Decisions to get married and have children are deeply personal," said the report. "As seen in many other advanced societies and observed in our surveys and engagements with Singaporeans, the trend of low fertility reflects a generational shift where younger Singaporeans value and prioritise other life goals ahead of marriage and parenthood."

Despite the trends around marriage and birth, aspirations to marry and have children remain strong in Singapore, said the report. "The government is committed to supporting Singaporeans’ parenthood aspirations, with a comprehensive suite of measures across areas such as housing, healthcare, preschool and education, financial and work-life support," it added.

📌 Ageing Population

The citizen population has continued to age, with 20.7% aged 65 and above in June 2025, compared with 13.1% a decade ago. The proportion of the citizen population aged 65 years and above is rising at a faster pace compared to the last decade.

"Immigration helps to moderate the impact of ageing and low birth rates on our citizen population, and keeps the citizen population from shrinking over the long term," said the report. "We are careful to grant citizenships and PRs to individuals who can contribute to Singapore, integrate well, and are committed to making Singapore their home," it said.

The report said the government will "continue to maintain a measured pace of immigration". The exact number of PRs and citizenships granted each year depends on several factors, including the number and quality of applications received and Singapore's changing needs.

👉 https://str.sg/jaKq

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Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 10:07 am]

The population problem is a knot. 

To increase population you need to have increase birth rate. 

To increase birth rate you need a easy life style.

To have a easy lifestyle you need a lot people outside to boost economy. 

You have too many people it's too crowded and competition then lifestyle becomes uneasy 

Lifestyle becomes uneasy no one wants to give birth

Infact some decide to retire overseas

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 10:08 am]

I think this is the Singapore approach

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 10:11 am]

https://findingspress.org/article/27391-determining-optimum-design-density-for-20-minute-neighbourhoods

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 10:14 am]

We should just maintain or reduce our population. As I think we are at the optimum population density. Any further increase is no good.

365, [1/10/2025 10:28 am]

I've always held the belief that we don't have a population quantity issue, but a population structural issue (i.e ratio of elderly to young is too high).

There's 2 ways to go about this, increase the number of young people, or decrease the number of older people.

We are already trying to increase the number of young people through immigration, now is left with the other side. The thing is, the young people that we import, will eventually grow old, thus if they are not giving birth, then it'll help with the issue currently but worsen the structure in future.

My solution is to tighten the requirements for citizenship. Since PR eventually will stop working and will have to move back to their home country, them not converting to citizens will help with the current young population, whilst not adding on to the future old population.

The additional requirement for citizenship is to have children converting to citizens as well. So for every PR wanting to convert to citizen, they have to apply together with their children, or at least already have a Singaporean child. This is so at least there is a 1:1 replenishment when they grow old.

The child will not be the only condition, it is an add-on to current existing requirements for citizenship conversion. More children converting together will be judged more favorably, but will not be the only factor to look at. So assuming 2 people are of the exact same quality and character, then one with more children converting will be given more priority.

Daniel, [1/10/2025 10:32 am]

I think one flaw in this logic is that a lot of PRs are actually spouses of citizens. (37% of citizen marriages are transnational) So by making it harder for those people to remain in Singapore, you might also encourage their citizen spouse and children to move away with them, thus not really helping at all with the concerns.

Daniel, [1/10/2025 10:34 am]

Although I guess your second point kind of addresses this.

365, [1/10/2025 10:37 am]

PR in Singapore is more for economic development, both for the country and the person. So unless they can already find better economic solutions elsewhere, which this policy would have little effect on, chances are they'll continue staying in Singapore and then find another place to retire in.

If this is the case, then it still helps Singapore in replenishing the working population, while not adding on to the elder retired population.

365, [1/10/2025 10:39 am]

Annectodally, a lot of Malaysian PRs hold on to the status and only decide to convert when there's something else they want that only citizenship can grant, such as better Healthcare subsidies. Else, they hold onto the PR in hopes of retiring back in Malaysia anyway.

365, [1/10/2025 10:42 am]

We keep saying we have an aged population, and have a population numbers issue, but why in the past with less population, this is never an issue? Thus I believe the issue is the structure, not the overall numbers.

365, [1/10/2025 10:43 am]

Aged population in itself does not indicate an overall numbers issue, but a structural one where the aged to young ratio is too high. That's why in statistics, they use numbers like 20% of population in Singapore is 60 and above to paint an issue.

365, [1/10/2025 10:46 am]

Someone can correct me here if I'm wrong, but the conditions for citizenship is more or less a blackbox at the moment. If they were to adopt this, it can be part of the blackbox.

REACH Singapore, [1/10/2025 11:00 am]

[ Poll : 1. I understand the need for population growth.  ]

- Strongly Agree

- Agree

- Neutral

- Disagree

- Strongly Disagree

REACH Singapore, [1/10/2025 11:00 am]

[ Poll : 2. I am comfortable with the pace of population growth in Singapore. ]

- Strongly Agree

- Agree

- Neutral

- Disagree

- Strongly Disagree

REACH Singapore, [1/10/2025 11:01 am]

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💬 What are your views on the updates in the latest population figures?

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Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 11:21 am]

We have compromise our army camps for HDB how does that justify population growth

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 11:23 am]

The common excuse or reason is economic reasons for population growth, but we shouldn't compromise so many other things while growing

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 11:26 am]

Super high rent and housing, facilities closed down for housing. I think we have enough manual labour. 

Temporary labour is ok. The problem those that stayed long term

365, [1/10/2025 11:26 am]

Infinite growth isn't possible, our economy has exploded in the past 60 years, doesn't mean it's feasible or realistic to expect the same growth. Economies of scale can also tip the other way for population to economic output as well.

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 11:29 am]

At this rate of growth we might need to conquer JB as our territory to accommodate so many things

365, [1/10/2025 11:36 am]

I'd like to push for a controversial topic as well in regards to this. I think we should start looking into legalizing euthanasia.

It may sound cruel and gnarly on paper because it revolves around the topic of death, but I believe it has its merits.

First off is the option for people to choose if they'd want to continue living. For some, it's not a mental condition, but they truly believe that their life is no longer worth continuing and is nothing but pain and suffering. Expecting them to live through the pain on the very unlikely hopes of a miracle is more cruel. Even if there was a miracle to cure them, what would be their quality of life afterwards. 

Secondly, which is how it relates to this topic, is that it frees up resources. One issue we have is aged population is worrying about the resources, including human resource, to support them. Instead of spending resources on 1 person who already no longer has the will to live, isn't it wiser to spend it on another one who still wants to live on and need that resource?

This is not something I've though on the fly, but has been on my mind for many years already. I do not want to continue life if I can't even settle my daily necessities by myself. I'm not pushing to recommend this for everyone, but at least have the option.

The specifics, such as how to implement and how to prevent people from pushing their parents to take this option can be further discussed, with one option being to require witnesses, and none of whom can be a direct or indirect beneficiary of the euthanized.

When I grow old, and am hooked onto a machine, it would be a waste of bed space, living space, medical resources, and medical workforce to spend on me, when I can free them up for others who still want to carry on living. My assets can also be used for society afterwards.

So overall, not only is there less resource consumption, more resource becomes available as well.

Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [1/10/2025 11:38 am]

The main concern with now generation is housing & job stability.

Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [1/10/2025 11:41 am]

I ask my kids n his friends, they want to buy house too expensive,  that too does not belong to them. With job market so bad, afraid will have job to pay for house & family

G, [1/10/2025 12:50 pm]

It feels like an elaborate ponzi scheme where there's a need to keep adding new members to keep the gig going

One day the bubble will burst, and countless hurt in the process

Daniel, [1/10/2025 1:23 pm]

What I find interesting about this data is that with all the talk about too many PRs and new citizens, there's actually not so many more of those. There's 22000 new citizenships, that's barely 0.6% of citizens. And the number of PRs seems constant. I wonder why there is such a disconnect between the actual number and what people perceive.

REACH Singapore, [1/10/2025 2:11 pm]

📢 Topic 📢

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 2:33 pm]

Then why the demand of HDB is going so high despite dropping in core population

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 2:35 pm]

Why my TCM class full of new china citizens and prs. There's very less student pass

Daniel, [1/10/2025 3:42 pm]

Might be smaller household size, so same amount of people require more flats?

Daniel, [1/10/2025 3:42 pm]

Yeah, interesting indeed. The data seems to say something else. Is it because TCM requires knowledge of Mandarin?

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 3:43 pm]

Maybe.

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 3:44 pm]

Where some of them not even proficient in English

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 3:46 pm]

I think mainly the Crowdedness and foreign people trying to funny act such as recording the election fustrates people

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 3:47 pm]

The new citizens are not grounded enough to be a citizen

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 3:47 pm]

There must be a law requiring people to be pr for at least 10-15 yrs to be citizens

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 3:49 pm]

If not how are they sincere to be in Singapore and serve us?

REACH Singapore, [1/10/2025 4:16 pm]

📢 Topic 📢

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 4:59 pm]

1. Looking at the trend of our population growth for the past decades, the TFR achieve through our local marriages and birth is not encouraging - which in fact the TFR reveals go below 1 - to replace the parents of 2.

2. We can hope and insist that our Singapore core should be solely locally bred and born and not rely on immigrants to be the new citizens or PRs that can contribute to our economy and can integrate with our community.

3. But after observing the trends for so many years, and looking at our young close circles - the trends towards marriage, and marriage with more local birth is not encouraging.

4. Youth either prefer to stay singles, or marry late (due to whatever reasons) or if marriage prefer to go without children due to many possible reasons :-

a. Fearful of more uncertain future - due to tech disruption such as AI and others, geopolitical uncertainty and more career disruption.

b. Aspire to have more time for themselves or spouse and not to have children or more children.

c. Afraid their offsprings will subject to future hardships or uncertain future.

5. Hence with locals not producing offsprings to carry our Economy, Governance Security, Manpower etc ---- we cannot be hard-headed to insist no immigrations and die-die no immigrants.

6. Because by doing so - it could be an existential threat to our existence - that is our children generations can fail to exist, taken over by big powers - when our old generations passed on, not enough young population to take over the important functions of the Economy, Security, Governance, Manpower etc.

7. Devoid of Emotions, and solely based on pure figures, rational and logical thinking.

8. Hence I support local birth as the Singaporean cores, but if the birth rate unable to do full replacement - we need to convert immigrants to become new immigrants and PRs - that will integrate seamlessly with our communities as one of us.

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 5:26 pm]

Most important is to maintain the same community mix ratio among the population.

That's Chinese, Malay, Indian and Other races mix must be maintained as per current to ensure equilibrium and preserve the peace and harmony.

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:45 pm]

Imo i dont think its about the numbers. Singapore can go to 10mil for all i care. 

However, foreigners that choose to work in singapore need to contribute. Primarily through taxes. If public services like mrt is better funded, wouldnt there wouldnt be such a strain on our system.

People stay in singapore for its safety, but the price is hidden. 20% of our tax is spent on defence. Ambulance which has nsf is free. Nsf police makes our streets safe. 

I would say that we need to hike taxes for everyone but give strong subsidies to those that served ns. But its hard to gauge how much women 'served' the country if many choose to remain childless

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 5:48 pm]

Mainly gov not doing match making

And lack of credible match making service

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:48 pm]

This logic is flawed. Singapore is an immigrant nation. We didnt get from fishing village to metropolis by having race controls. Did the early settlers from china and india have to return back to maintain race ratio?

Currently we are importing a lot of people on something thats skin deep, but culturally its difficult to communicate with them. Especially if they cant speak much english

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:49 pm]

The 'peace and harmony' is xenophobia. Scared to see if minority becomes bigger

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 5:50 pm]

Not that I want to stay single. It's hard to get a partner at the first place

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 5:50 pm]

When people are introvert

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 5:51 pm]

The criteria is that for immigrants to be granted new citizens and PRs - they must be able to speak and write English.

Else they can't get a job or study in Singapore.

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:51 pm]

Same. Maybe my standard too high but idk if 99% are not my type or just dont put effort to look decent

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 5:52 pm]

Jobs not necessary need to be in English you know

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:52 pm]

I think foreigners hired for cust facing roles need to have basic english. Need some enforcement action or it will cause social strife

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 5:52 pm]

People who operate TCM Clinic can no need good English

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:52 pm]

Do malay an indian use tcm?

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 5:53 pm]

Some

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:53 pm]

I know some do acupuncture

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 5:53 pm]

But they can always hire Singaporean to do some translation

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 5:53 pm]

Or ask a Singaporean colleague to do so

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 5:54 pm]

Most of the China nationals that I meet at work speak and write English though with accents.

Indian also speak and write English.

Malays from Indonesia and Malaysia also speak and write English.

So are other races like mynamar, Thai etc.

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:54 pm]

I dun think singaporean wanna work in such a role

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:54 pm]

Unless you mean they hire 1 singaporean in office beside the foreigner to handle en customer

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:55 pm]

Actually why not do that? Some places 100% only chinese

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 5:55 pm]

I mean they may do other job role but can summon to help for simple translation

Jun Ming, [1/10/2025 5:55 pm]

Since their primary job scope is Chinese

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:57 pm]

Btw about pr, i think we need to tax cpf as income when they renounce.

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:57 pm]

I think cpf is used as tax loophole before going back to village

Adam, [1/10/2025 5:58 pm]

Pr can get hdb too. Get lots of singapore benefit

REACH Singapore, [1/10/2025 6:05 pm]

📢 Topic 📢

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:10 pm]

1. Many people think that curbing immigrants or deporting immigrants back will provide more job opportunities, housing opportunities for Singaporeans.

2. Sadly the reverse is true.

3. For example, if we keep 3.66 million Singaporeans only and deport the rest of PRs and foreigners back - what will be the consequences?

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:14 pm]

1. Our domestic Economy could collapse because :-

a. SME, F&Bs, stallholders will have only 3.66 million to buy their products and services - compared to 6.11 million potential customers.

Many small business will collapse - that is, many Singaporeans SMEs owners will close shops or bankrupt. Workers in SMEs will lose their jobs.

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:17 pm]

b. With smaller population, our talent pools, top talents - will greatly shrink - and potential leaders for Governance, Business Leaders, CEOs, Community Leaders, Top professionals like doctors, lawyers, IT professional, sustainability experts, AI professionals, Quantum Computing professionals, Nuclear experts, professors, lecturers etc --- will not be readily available.

MNCs, investors, family offices will leave Singapore - because of the lack of talents to carry their business.

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:21 pm]

2. Our Defense and Home security would be compromise :-

a. Eg. With smaller talent pools to helm as Defence Chief, Intelligence Chief, Home security etc.

- We may experience massive cybersecurity attacks that compromised our CII (Critical Information Infrastructure) like our energy, power, water, airports, sea ports, transport, nuclear plants, bank operations, government operations, our army and home team infrastructure, healthcare, education institutions etc.

- We could be invaded and overwhelm by big power with bigger army - because we don't have enough manpower for soldiers, police and home team security personnel.

b. Our Country sovereignty and even existence could be threatened.

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:24 pm]

3. Our foreign affairs relationship, business affairs through EDB, IE Enterprise and MFAs could be compromise :-

a. Imagine we lack sufficient manpower, how to deploy capable business relationship officers in EDB, IE Singapore and Foreign Affairs to so many Countries to handle our business relationship, look for opportunities and maintain our foreign affairs to secure our interest?

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:27 pm]

4. If we let the population aged to superaged - 60 years and above - whereby we have too little youth but overwhelmingly aged ---- how to ensure the aged are taken care off by doctors, nurses, physiotheraphy, nursing homes, hospitals, polyclinics etc?

An overwhelming humanitarian crisis could come - with many aged (including the young ones which could age one day) - left with no decent care giving will ensue.

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:31 pm]

Hence we may let emotions overrun us.                

But let critical thinking, logic and rational minds rules —- and think of the consequences what will happen if we paralyse our population policies.           

Just look at what happen to US now (a big Country with big local population) - but their xenophobic attitudes towards immigrants and foreigners backfire badly —- with talents leaving, workers in the farm and healthcare leaving, MNCs instead of onshoring are now doing offshoring as the political, tariff, hostility, economic moods have soured and introduce too much uncertainties that business prefer to stay out of US.                 

I hope Singapore don't have to go through an expensive lesson and discover the truth in a hard way.

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:36 pm]

With smaller population, our housing, properties prices will fall because there will be too many ghost houses with no one to live - just like Japan and China 2nd tier and 3rd tier city.

Our bto flats, condo, landed properties prices plummet - and our wealth will drop drastically.

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:37 pm]

Yeah, me who doesnt own a flat will have my net worth drop becaus housing price drop

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:37 pm]

Me who eat out will have col increase because rent drop

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:38 pm]

Have you considered that many singaporeans do not have skin in the property game?

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:39 pm]

If you give more singaporeans homes, they will care more for your condo resale value

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:39 pm]

And if we lose our jobs due to poor domestic consumption, investors not coming in as we lack talents pool, finance capital won't want to come in because our economy plummets, wealth plummets - and all our wealth and our assets worth will drop.

Suddenly, our currency values fall, our wealth plummet and the country suddenly become poorer.

This is the consequences of mismanaging our population growth.

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:41 pm]

Hence policies makers must have the inherent "We value" instead of our own selfish interest - but fail to see the bigger picture.

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:42 pm]

Ok you argue wealth. Jobs. Population.

Do you think the average uncle care. WOW. Economy grow 4.4 in 2024. Amazing right. Stronk economy means trickle down to us

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:42 pm]

Did our wage grow?

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:42 pm]

Is our young getting better jobs?

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:43 pm]

Really whats the point of strong economy if people in the streets are not benefitting?

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:43 pm]

Is the economy made for the billionaires who park their wealth here?

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:43 pm]

If the consequences of population growth is mismanaged:-

1. The whole country could cease to exist.

2. No jobs 

3. Poor business.

4. We could be invaded by big power who will just overrun and swallow us.

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:43 pm]

Do we indiscriminately immigrate to make sure we have cheap labor for tycoons?

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:44 pm]

After all economy matters

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:44 pm]

Property price matters

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:44 pm]

Really?

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:44 pm]

The rest become not important.

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:44 pm]

How about you and me? Do people not matter? Maybe we can sell our kidneys to boost the economy

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:45 pm]

We already selling our souls for overtime anyway

REACH Singapore, [1/10/2025 6:47 pm]

Dear Contributors,

⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰

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Goodnight!

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LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:48 pm]

1. And a declassified historical document reveals that a big power is getting ready their army to invade us.

2. But when our national day reveal our tanks AMX 13 and M113 armour vehicles emerge from the parade, the plan was called off.

3. If not because of LKY and his cabinet - we could have been slaughtered - because we barely have 2 regiments to protect ourselves.

4. Now everyone see the danger of mismanaging our population?

死到临头还不知道。

Very close to demise - yet many don't know.

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:51 pm]

What do you mean by mismanaging?

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:51 pm]

Are you talking about eip?

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:51 pm]

Or not importing enough?

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:52 pm]

Idk why you brought up early days. Times are diff

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:52 pm]

How different?

Trump not current time?

Putin not current time?

Hamas not current time?

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:52 pm]

So should we import more malaysians so that they dun bomb their own citizens if invade?

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:53 pm]

ISIS Al-Qaeda not current time?

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:53 pm]

Far right not current time?

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:54 pm]

This. I dont see the danger. Explain what you are saying in black and white

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:55 pm]

Xenophobic towards new citizens and PRs is dangerous.

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:56 pm]

Of course. But singapore didnt cure xeniphobia back then in early days with whats its doing now

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:56 pm]

Military is a diff matter too

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:57 pm]

Back then the gov implemented english as common tongue. Make people share their neighbourhoods

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:57 pm]

Now we have foreigner enclaves

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:57 pm]

Don't understand.

My experience with current population very comfortable even though there are new citizens and PRs among us.

We benefitted tremendously.

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:57 pm]

Now some dont bother learning to speak with other races

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:58 pm]

You must be very fortunate to live such a happy life

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:58 pm]

My experience unlike what you say is very different 

Whether a person is open mind or close mind.

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:58 pm]

Yes I am, so are my close circles.

Adam, [1/10/2025 6:59 pm]

Maybe prs and foreigners also happy on their respective circles too

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 6:59 pm]

Even my Neighbourhoods are harmonious with different races and immigrants.

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 7:00 pm]

Positive minds breeds positive outcomes.

LCL (Danny 心), [1/10/2025 7:00 pm]

Negative minds breeds negative outcomes.

REACH Singapore, [1/10/2025 7:00 pm]

Dear Contributors

We will be closing the chat for today.

Thank you very much for being part of our Telegram chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan 😊

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