REACH (Telegram) 101 - What are your views on the Ministerial Statement on Race and Religion?
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In Parliament yesterday (14 Oct), Coordinating Minister for National Security K Shanmugam delivered a Ministerial Statement on Race and Religion. Minister Shanmugam highlighted that while Singapore has tried to achieve the multiracial ideals in its pledge over 60 years of independence, it remains a work in progress. He warned that Singapore may look stable now, but it is “no more stable than other countries” before their communal relations became worse. If future generations of political leaders are tempted or pressured to engage in identity politics, we will experience the same conflicts and divisions we see unfolding elsewhere in the world.
π¬ What are your views on the Ministerial Statement on Race and Religion?
π Singapore's Founding Principles
Minister Shanmugam highlighted that when Singapore became independent, it took a very different approach of multicultural integration. Singapore's founding fathers enshrined the foundational principles of unity in diversity, justice and equality in the National Pledge, and ensured that all citizens, regardless of race, language, or religion, were to have equal status. This created space to enhance mutual understanding and develop a common identity.
π Race and Religion in Politics
Referring to "troubling incidents" in the recent General Election, Minister Shanmugam emphasised that political parties should “immediately, clearly and unequivocally” reject any such attempts to interfere in Singapore’s political process in the future. He urged politicians to resist the destructive temptation to use race and religion in election campaigns for easy political wins, and steer clear of identity politics.
π A Work in Progress
Minister Shanmugam highlighted that ensuring equality for all races is still a "work in progress". He noted that incidents relating to racism and discrimination is the "lived realities" of minority groups, adding that a fraction of the Chinese community have also told of similar experiences.
ππ» https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/parliamentary/ministerial-statement-on-race-and-religion
ππ» https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/k-shanmugam-race-religion-identity-politics-parliament-work-in-progress-5400141
ππ» https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/steer-clear-of-identity-politics-uphold-integrity-of-singapores-secular-system-shanmugam
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365, [15/10/2025 10:31 am]
Race and religion should not be used in politics, especially it is regarding foreign affairs, such as the war in Gaza. I really disliked it when it was brought up to garner votes in GE, it's not even a matter concerning Singaporeans.
I do feel that there has to be a form of balance for policing racial matters. There was a time when friends of different races could crack racial jokes at each other and laugh it off. In my view, that is much more harmonious than treading around the line so tightly nowadays, afraid of someone somewhere getting offended.
Policing this too much makes the pendulum swing from one end of malice, to the other end of exclusivity in fear of offending people.
REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 11:00 am]
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REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 11:00 am]
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REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 11:03 am]
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π¬ What are your views on the Ministerial Statement on Race and Religion?
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Megan
G, [15/10/2025 11:14 am]
Please..
By it's very nature, the GRC system is race based politics
The reserved presidency that was pushed through disqualifies candidates based on race
Is he saying that it's ok for the incumbent to have race based politics since they were the ones who pushed through the above 2 policies?
G, [15/10/2025 11:19 am]
I'd rather time in parliament be put to much better use for discussion / tackling bread and butter issues, than waste time on needless and unnecessary politicking
G, [15/10/2025 11:20 am]
E.g. transport fares going up again despite so many disruptions.. it's like continuing to reward repeated failures
Daniel, [15/10/2025 11:22 am]
I think there are two different issues here:
One is politics and campaigning along racial and religious lines. This I feel is dangerous and will lead to a polarised climate.
The other one is policies that ensure participation and representation of all groups in the political process (the GRC or the president rule mentioned above or the nominated MPs). I feel that we can discuss on the implementation, but fundamentally it's important that a voice is given to minorities and underrepresented groups so that everyone feels involved. This in my opinion is crucial to social cohesion.
365, [15/10/2025 11:32 am]
It's not all just pros though. Forced inclusivity through quotas can lead an illusion of harmony, when in actual fact, it's more of tolerance rather than acceptance. It's just a time bomb waiting to go off.
True racial harmony will be when there are no rules to enforce a quota, yet all sides are equally represented. This is a bandaid on a wound that has not been disinfected.
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G, [15/10/2025 11:42 am]
So.. during campaigning, race based politics (e.g. minority voices) is dangerous.. but after that (GRC/reserved presidency etc) race based politics (e.g. minority voices) is ok because...?
Daniel, [15/10/2025 11:50 am]
Because the first one is telling people "We are representing this single group of people and making politics along their voice" whereas the second one says "we are making sure we're representing everyone and giving everyone a voice". This is my opinion, you are entitled to your own.
Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 12:19 pm]
The government has kept explaining the rationale of GRC over and over and over and over again.
Yet, portion of people either refuses to accept the explanation, or keep thinking there is conspiracy behind the GRC thingy.
..........
It is like saying
it is wrong to use force, especially if it is used by people to commit crimes.
so why the police resort to force in catching criminals or detering crimes?
...
G, [15/10/2025 12:23 pm]
The very heart of GRC is race. Remove race from the equation and the very impetus for GRC falls apart.
Based on this, why is it wrong to say that the GRC is race based politics?
Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 12:28 pm]
you still do not understand? birds of the same feather flocks together...
tribalism?
people in general has a tendency for tribalism, you are a same race or same religion as me....so I vote for you...
Singapore has been independent since 1965, has been trying to educate Singaporeans since then on regardless of race, language or religion....
keeping policies secular....
and yet until now...there is portion of people trying to vote as accordingly to race or religion or language.
How do you remove race from the equation when it is genetically within all human.?
G, [15/10/2025 12:33 pm]
Yes, I don't understand why people deny that GRC is race based politics when it is clear that race is the basis for GRC
Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 12:39 pm]
then it is not the GRC system problem.
the issues lies in you. in your understanding or way of thinking that is preventing you from seeing and understand the problem and the solution GRC is providing.
GRC is a solutions, though not perfect, allowing the minority to be represented in the Parliament as voted MPs.
........
Think of it in this way.
You provide a solution propasl that is better than GRC.
and it allows the minorities to be represented fairly.
post your solutions here, and we all peer review in it here.
take as long as you need....
..........
Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 12:50 pm]
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSUaxvaXd/
malicious people are blackmailing and bullying businesses into complying to their political movements...
and fullerton hotel is surrendering itself to "terrorists" activists..online..
Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 12:57 pm]
this is a serious issues....the government should address this in the Parliament.
stop such "terrorism" before it spread like wild fire.... there "terrorists" seeing that their tactics is successful will keep repeating it over and over again...like bacteria...spreading its bacterial infection everywhere which eventually killed its host, Singapore
G, [15/10/2025 1:58 pm]
This is where you are mistaken. I never denied the rationale behind the GRC system and the problem it is trying to solve.
Is there a better solution like what you want? I don't know
I pointed out that GRC is race based because at the very heart of it, GRC is based on race.
Now if you are saying GRC is not race based politics, then please describe it without going into explanation and rationalisation.
REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 2:03 pm]
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Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 2:18 pm]
Of course it is a race based system...
because race is the problem on unfair presentation of MP in Parliament if nothing is done to it
.....
how to remove race from it if it is exactly race that is the problem..?
Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 2:19 pm]
i want chicken rice without the chicken and rice....
can it still be chicken rice?
Daniel, [15/10/2025 2:23 pm]
So are you saying the composition of MPs by race does not reflect the composition of the population? Or what exactly is the issue?
Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 2:28 pm]
you look at Malaysia....if a chinese candidate go to malay majority area to contest...what is the likely probability that that chinese candidate be voted into Parliament.
Singapore is still not much different from malaysia..... despite becoming independent for over 60years..
race, religion and language still has an impactful factor when people choosing who to vote for..
.....
are we so naive and gullible to think we have reach a state where race, religion and language doesn't matter?
are we been realistic or we are been idealistic and refuse to see it as it is or we see thing based on what we want to see?
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:34 pm]
I have no issues with the current direction of religion and race
Daniel, [15/10/2025 2:35 pm]
Yeah, but then what is the issue you have with GRC? It seems to exactly address the problem you describe in Malaysia.
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:35 pm]
But for GRC I think it will be fairer if it's 3 people team to be fair
G, [15/10/2025 2:35 pm]
I'm glad you can see that GRC is race based. SG has had race based politics since at least 1988 (since GRC introduction)
Now.. Why shan want to blow up big big in parliament for unnecessary politicking?
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:35 pm]
The issue is one anchoring minister being a new bunch of dk who
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:36 pm]
While citing it is needed because of race
Adam, [15/10/2025 2:36 pm]
Its slightly funny how we have grc system so there representation of minority. But pap can be overrepresented despite vote being 61%
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:37 pm]
So it was one of the nmp suggested it but I think it's a good suggestion
Adam, [15/10/2025 2:37 pm]
Definitely if true voting, minorities will be much less because thats how democracy work, just like oppo has much less even if 40% vote them
Daniel, [15/10/2025 2:38 pm]
Yeah, never understood the logic of a first past the post system
Adam, [15/10/2025 2:39 pm]
If we wanna break down identity based politics even more, maybe in addition to race, have 50% male and female candidates in election
Adam, [15/10/2025 2:40 pm]
Im pretty sure people put gender identity over race
Daniel, [15/10/2025 2:41 pm]
Yes, I think we should aim for equal representation of women as well. One does not exclude the other.
365, [15/10/2025 2:41 pm]
That's how first past the post works, Trump won 2016 despite having less valid votes than clinton
G, [15/10/2025 2:42 pm]
Please.. The PAP went on a smear campaign on Tang Liang Hong (RIP) in 1997, accusing him to be "Anti-Christian Chinese chauvinist".
Isn't this blatant identity politics at play?
https://mothership.sg/2025/10/tang-liang-hong-dies/
Adam, [15/10/2025 2:44 pm]
I wonder if its even possible for singapore to change from fptp
Adam, [15/10/2025 2:45 pm]
Will be funny if pap gets more votes if they do so. Less people will vote oppo for protest
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365, [15/10/2025 2:47 pm]
Might be great, I can't rmb what the other voting method is called, but essentially you can pass on your vote down a list of parties / candidates in a priority order.
Adam, [15/10/2025 2:48 pm]
Theres a bunch out there. You might be thinking of ranked voting
Joomua Tng, [15/10/2025 2:48 pm]
i disappointed to you you still insist.of
wanting chicken rice without the chicken and rice.
365, [15/10/2025 2:49 pm]
Yeah that's probably the one, though really useful only when there's more than 2 candidates or parties
Adam, [15/10/2025 2:50 pm]
Yeah. Ranked voting is still good but still gives pap a disproportionate supermajority since only got 2
365, [15/10/2025 2:51 pm]
I think it gives oppo more chances in multi cornered fight, since it prevents vote dilution for those who want to merely vote against incumbents
Adam, [15/10/2025 2:53 pm]
Imo instead of representation on racial lines, much more useful to have representation in policies singaporeans want. I.e. who we voted to represent us
365, [15/10/2025 2:55 pm]
The argument against this is that since majority is Chinese now, it'll lead to more people favoring Chinese candidates and in turn, more push for policies favoring racial Chinese citizens. It can be any race, just that the Chinese is currently the majority.
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:58 pm]
Race to me is nothing. It's the presentation of the candidates. Religion is the more tricky one
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:59 pm]
Which is harder to manage as every body thinks our religion is the best
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 2:59 pm]
And hope to influence more people to practice their religion
Khai Mun L., [15/10/2025 3:10 pm]
And it's easier to change religion compared to race
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 3:11 pm]
Exactly
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 3:13 pm]
In history religion thrives because it gets into politics and now a lot countries becomes a religious country
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 3:13 pm]
For eg. Indonesia was once a Buddhist country because the sultan believes in Muslim and now it is a Muslim country by law
Daniel, [15/10/2025 3:15 pm]
Yeah, I think keeping out religion from politics should be a priority!
365, [15/10/2025 3:19 pm]
I think this is something most if not all can agree on. Everyone is free to practice their religion, but don't impose your beliefs on others, through unwanted soliciting or even worse, through laws.
LCL (Danny εΏ), [15/10/2025 3:43 pm]
1. The Government pushed for :-
a. GRC - ensure minority representation in Parliament (Malay, Indian, Others)
b. Rotation minority President
- serve to :-
i. Ensure minorities voices and representation in Parliament as well as in the highest office - President (in rotation)
ii. "UNITE" Singapore different communities - foster harmony and peace - to serve Singapore Pledge - regardless of race, language or religion - based on justice, equality and progress for our Nation.
2. WP identity and race-based politics in 2025 GE - on the contrary serve to "DIVIDE" the different communities - and serve to stoke emotion and trigger frictions among the various racial and religious communities :-
i. Eg. allowing foreign politicians - PAS to coerce voters to vote based on race - notably the WP Malay candidate Faisal Manap in Tampines - as well as another Malay WP female candidate and blow up Gaza cause to stoke Malay voters emotion in Tampines GRC.
ii. Harpeet Singh play along the lines of Indian voters - pushing to make Thaipusam to be make as public holiday an issue.
3. GE 2025 racial and religious issues that are raised by WP in a bid to win votes certainly annoyed me for allowing such sensitive issues to influence voting.
4. Few thoughts come to my mind.
i. My immediate thought is that Low Thia Kiang is a better leader - for not allowing race and religion to cloud their approach in GE in a bid to win votes - a gentleman fight who focus on Economy, bread and butter issues that benefits the voters.
ii. Bring up Gaza and Malaysia race based politics - which are non of our business into our GE - will stoke emotion and move friction up many folds - but don't serve our various communities interest - that is how to address our inflation, Economy, jobs and bread and butter issues.
5. And as predicted, both WP candidates lose both in Tampines and Punggol GRC - for playing the dangerous lines along race and religion.
6. I hope in future GE, WP don't play the races and religion cards again.
LCL (Danny εΏ), [15/10/2025 4:01 pm]
1. I witness in my eyes when I was in Punggol Mall -- whereby a long line of resident voters queue patiently to shake hands, hold up brief conversation and take photos with DPM Gan Kim Yong.
2. Then I notice Harpeet Singh and his 2 helpers come along. When he saw a long queue of resident voters waiting to shake hands and take photos with DPM Gan - he dance around the voters and trying to attract attention hoping the resident voters will walk up to him to shake hands with him, no one budge.
Even other residents that walk passed him didn't reach out to him to shake hands with him.
3. I took a photo of DPM Gan.
4. And when I trained my smartphone in an attempt to take a video of Harpeet Singh antics - his helpers realised it and immediately hold his arm and pulled him away.
I didn't manage to capture him in the video - as they walked away very quickly.
Imagine if this video is captured and put in TikTok....
5. At that moment, it daunt on me the WP identity and race based politics that they play along in their rallies didn't go down well with the voters - and at that time, I predicted that WP will lose the Punggol GRC votes.
6. Of course, another factor that help DPM Gan and his team to win is the Economic Resiliency Taskforce as well as the good work done by their MPs in their wards.
REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 4:03 pm]
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LCL (Danny εΏ), [15/10/2025 4:42 pm]
1. Another thing i wish to highlight is that in a "Utopian State" --- different racial communities will accept one another and interact naturally, not perturb by the color of the skin and not distracted by different races, cultures or religions - accepting one another as One.
2. This is a Utopian State (only Enlightened Being can achieve such Utopian State) - a scenario that akin to "ε‘ζζηΈ,ηζ―θε¦。θ₯θ§θ―ΈηΈιηΈ,εθ§ε¦ζ₯“。(Literally it means, anything appear in form is in fact an illusion. But if one is able to see a form as either form or formless - is an Enlightened Being).
Both Quantum Physics, Einstein Law of Relativity and Diamond Sutra confirm this phenomenon.
It means
"Anything we see with our eyes, is an illusion." (This mirror quantum physics principle or Einstein "Spooky action at a distance" - whereby the Universe are make up of 2 platforms :-
a. Time platform - whereby Universe are rule by time, space and distance - that come with past, present and future where space, distance and time assert "Reality" as we focus our attention at our current present moment (θ²) - "Form".
b. Timeless Quantum platform - whereby an equivalent pair of photon - an information is updated instantaneously - that transcend time (timeless), space and distance - in a Timeless Quantum Platform (η©Ί) - "Formless". (δΊθ΄ηη©Ί)。
(θ²δΈδΊ¦η©Ί。η©ΊδΈδΊ¦θ²。)(θ²ζ’ζ―η©Ί。η©Ίζ’ζ―θ²) (Form = Emptiness. Emptiness = Form.)
Quantum experiment - Schrodinger cat experiment confirm this (Cat can be death or alive - Reality happens when it is focused on).
This is Quantum superposition - that is any human beings or beings can exist as "Alive, Death, Sick, Old" at the same time.
And according to Einstein - Human Being will never die. Energy will never die in the Universe - it will appear in another form in another part of the Universe if a human die.
(ζ ηθη ζ»。ζ θζ»ε°½)(δΈε’δΈε)- Energy won't die. No energy in this Universe will be subtracted or added - under Quantum Mechanics - but will be transformed into another form.
3. There is a Unifying Physics - Classical Physics + Quantum Mechanics + Einstein Law of Relativity - that in theory able to explain how Universe is created and how Human Beings evolved.
(Note: It can create more than 1 Universe we live in - it can theoretically create multiple Universe - multiverse, parallel universes, Universe within a Universe).
In fact, scientist has created a "Baby Universe" within a lab (though it is unable to blow it up into the astronomic scale of the Universe in which we dwell in).
4. I got the Unifying physics model and the Math equation that create the Universe.
Scientists based on this model to create a "baby universe" - peer review and proof-read by scientists all over the world.
Unfortunately, this forum unable to attach images or videos.
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LCL (Danny εΏ), [15/10/2025 4:48 pm]
5. Since human beings are unable to attain such level of Enlightenment - structured approach to ensure our racial and religious harmony will still be required.
6. Hence I support our Government GRC and minority rotational President - to ensure fair representations of minorities in our Parliament and the role of President.
7. Unless our citizens of the various communities have attained such level of Enlightenment (to see beyond the color of the skin) to allow natural coexistence without the influence of the colour of the skin, races, religions, and culture.
8. Structure and political intervention such as GRC and president rotation among different races will still be required - if Singapore want peace, harmony and prosperity.
Khai Mun L., [15/10/2025 5:01 pm]
Though, sometimes definition of race is different. Especially nowadays with mixed races and nationalities
LCL (Danny εΏ), [15/10/2025 5:03 pm]
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSDRTpvrM/
Quantum Mechanics.
Energy never die.
And the illusion of Time Platform Universe.
LCL (Danny εΏ), [15/10/2025 5:07 pm]
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSUmRgGkY/
Quantum Immortality.
LCL (Danny εΏ), [15/10/2025 5:12 pm]
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSUm88hhh/
Unifying Physics Model that create the Universe.
Plus the Math Equation.
LCL (Danny εΏ), [15/10/2025 5:18 pm]
Alamak only following can see, others cannot see.
How to change the TikTok settings to open to public.
LCL (Danny εΏ), [15/10/2025 5:23 pm]
If human beings can finally understand how Universe and human beings are created through the Unifying Physics Model - shouldn't religions converged and not fight among ourselves - "my religion is correct and yours is not"?
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 5:40 pm]
Hard for ζ«ζ³ζΆδ»£.
Jun Ming, [15/10/2025 5:41 pm]
People only get worse and worse. And the world will get bad to worse
LCL (Danny εΏ), [15/10/2025 5:42 pm]
Hmmm...
Well there are people who are able to.
Our Singapore Government and our Civil Service as a collective whole is at this stage of Enlightenment.
Else they won't be able to formulate those policies that are aligned to Enlightenment.
REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 6:05 pm]
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REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 6:45 pm]
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LCL (Danny εΏ), [15/10/2025 6:59 pm]
https://babe118.blogspot.com/2025/10/unifying-physics-model-how-universe-is.html
REACH Singapore, [15/10/2025 7:01 pm]
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1. And this is in synch with εδΊε ηΌζ³ (12 dependent origination of life).
How is life formed.
A thought is an energy.
Energy will never die in the universe.
A thought can reverbate throughout the Universe.
This is in synch with Quantum entanglement (timeless quantum platform) and Einstein Spooky action at a distance.
δΈζ³ε―εΏι 。
η±ε ηΌη。
η±ε ηΌη。
A single stray thought (an energy) create consciousness - the beginning of Life).
This is how Life in Universe is formed.
2. The 12 dependent origination of Life are: ignorance, volitional formations, consciousness, name and form, the six sense bases, contact, feeling, craving, grasping, becoming, birth, and old age and death. (Form) (θ²) - Samsara Universe Time Platform.
This cycle explains how one link leads to the next, creating the process of life and death, but can be broken by ceasing ignorance and craving. (Formless) (η©Ί) - Quantum Timeless Platform - Emptiness.
Emptiness of stray thought (ε¦εΏ΅δΈθ΅·) (δΈθ΅·εΏε¨εΏ΅) - cessation of life in the Universe and dwell in the Emptiness of Quantum Timeless Platform (Essentially, the Nirvana).