Monday, September 22, 2025

REACH (Telegram) 96 -  What are your thoughts on the issues to be discussed in Parliament today? Which area interests you the most?

(SK)

22 Sep 2025 (10am - 7pm)


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REACH Singapore, [22/9/2025 9:45 am]

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REACH Singapore, [22/9/2025 10:01 am]

📢 Topic 📢

Parliament will sit today (22 Sep) at 11.30am. Three ministerial statements  regarding Singapore's position on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza will be delivered. Parliamentary questions regarding Singapore's enforcement on vaping, the recent train disruptions and bullying in schools will also be fielded today. 

💬 What are your thoughts on the issues to be discussed in Parliament today? Which area interests you the most?

📌 Humanitarian crisis in Gaza

Singapore supports a two-state solution and the immediate need for a ceasefire. Earlier this month, Dr Balakrishnan "stressed Singapore’s firm belief that a negotiated two-state solution, consistent with the relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions, is the only viable pathway to achieving a comprehensive, just, and durable solution to the longstanding conflict".

Several MPs had submitted several questions on this issue such as whether Singapore is reconsidering its position on recognising Palestinian statehood, as well as its efforts to deliver food to children affected by the Israel-Hamas conflict.

Foreign Affairs Minister Vivian Balakrishnan, Senior Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Sim Ann and Acting Minister-in-charge of Muslim Affairs Faishal Ibrahim are set to address these questions in their ministerial statements. 

📌 Rail disruptions

There have been 15 incidents in the last three months, and MRT reliability in the past 12 months has fallen to its lowest level since 2020. It was announced on Sep 19 that a rail reliability task force comprising the Land Transport Authority (LTA) and train operators SMRT and SBS Transit will be formed to address service disruptions. 

Some MPs filed questions on the recent spate of train disruptions. Mr Louis Chua filed questions seeking responses on the number of regulatory breaches made by each of the rail operators, and the corresponding financial penalties. Several MPs asked for an update on investigations into the causes of the various breakdowns.

📌 Vaping

Singapore has stepped up enforcement efforts against vaping in recent weeks. Harsher penalties for vaping offences came into force on Sep 1, with etomidate - the anaesthetic agent that has been found in vapes - listed as a Class C drug under the Misuse of Drugs Act. 

There were 11 questions on vaping, with MPs seeking updates on enforcement action and the latest figures related to vaping offences, including seizures of illegal e-vaporisers and related products at Singapore’s borders. Mr Wan Rizal also submitted a question on additional preventive and rehabilitative measures to deter youth vaping and to support those already affected. 

📌 Bullying in schools

There were 13 questions filed on bullying in schools. These included questions on what resources were available to schools to detect and counter bullying, and how quickly schools are expected to investigate and take action after a report of bullying has been made.

Minister for Education Desmond Lee said last month that the ministry will strengthen school policies on bullying and harmful behaviour in the next phase of its internal review.

Ms He Ting Ru submitted a question on whether the Ministry of Education works with external agencies to strengthen trauma-informed and victim-centric practices in schools. She also asked whether there are investigation protocols for educators and whether they are developed with child safety and violence-prevention experts. Ms Charlene Chen asked about the measures beyond training that are implemented to ensure teachers have the time and resources to address bullying without adding to their risk of burnout. 

👉 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/ministerial-statement-middle-east-singapore-parliament-vaping-rail-disruption-bullying-5357831

👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/spores-response-to-gaza-crisis-train-breakdowns-vaping-on-parliaments-agenda

👉https://www.parliament.gov.sg/parliamentary-business/order-paper

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Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 10:53 am]

Maybe mean km/ disruption may not be the calculating factor. Add in the duration and the people affect factor to calculate how drastic the impact is

REACH Singapore, [22/9/2025 11:00 am]

[ Poll : Which issue(s) are you most interested in for today's Parliament sitting? Share your reasons in the chat! (You may choose more than one option.) ]

- Humanitarian crisis in Gaza

- Rail disruptions

- Vaping

- Bullying 

- Others (please share your views in the chats below) 

REACH Singapore, [22/9/2025 11:03 am]

Dear Contributors,

Please take a moment to participate in our polls and share your opinion. The poll questions are pinned for easy reference, and your vote is anonymous. 

We look forward to hearing your thoughts on today’s topic!

💬 What are your thoughts on the issues to be discussed in Parliament today? Which area interests you the most?

Thank you.

Megan

REACH Singapore, [22/9/2025 11:31 am]

Dear Contributors,

Parliament sitting is now live.

Catch the livestream of today's Parliament sitting here: https://www.youtube.com/live/LSOhEzjFUO0?si=Mxn-nsP8XK3U4eF2

365, [22/9/2025 11:35 am]

Rail disruptions, vaping, bullying concerns the citizens' daily lives, Gaza issue not so much.

Gaza issues is not for Singapore to decide, and we should only be concerned with how we can navigate the geopolitical tensions around it, which should be done behind closed doors.

Rail disruptions issues need more transparency on the attribution of the root cause. Policy, culture, technical, individual? What are the steps taken to resolve said root cause? Provide something similar to a project timeline, deadlines are needed to apply pressure for improvement. Provide a minimally annual audit review on operational-only aspects related to reliability and publish it for public viewing and scrutiny.

Annectodal feel of public opinion on vaping is positively against it. Can consider providing statistics on vape return, seizures, and rehabilitation to ride on the current public opinion to apply more societal pressure to comply.

Unable to give much feedback on bullying as I'm out of touch with the current situations that students face.

Dr. Goh, [22/9/2025 12:18 pm]

Just make cars affordable. We don't need any more excuses for MRT. If it is that bad and no solutions exist,let people have a choice in transport. Bear in mind salaries in SMRT are very high so they must deliver results

Adam, [22/9/2025 12:23 pm]

Joke?

365, [22/9/2025 12:24 pm]

With the current congestion levels, I really don't want more cars added on the road. Public transportation is much more efficient for society as a whole than private, at the cost of convenience for individuals.

Adam, [22/9/2025 12:28 pm]

I take bus. But one reason i take bus for even one stop is because riding bicycle on road and crossing is too inconvenient and dangerous. What happened to car lite? Maybe if we make cycling for practical use more accepted then can reduce strain on bus and road.

Also ban road cyclists in speedos as they give all cyclists a bad name. Make them pay road tax and coe too for using public roads for leisure

365, [22/9/2025 12:30 pm]

I think we can look at bus frequency as an alternative. Connectivity wise, I think most places can be reached within a single transfer, and there are services that already run somewhat parallel along mrt lines. The biggest issue bus have against mrt is the frequency during off peak hours, and traffic congestions.

Congestions is another topic to discuss, but during off peak hours, some services have to wait for 15 or even 20 mins. Can maybe shorten to 10 mins which is still less frequent than mrt but I think it's more reasonable

RY, [22/9/2025 12:31 pm]

Very gd qns targetted to the different Ministers for Vaping 

Seems Minister Faisal not answering the qns directly ...

ICA/MOE/MOH/MHA/HSA may have to work together or form multi-ministry to tackle this drug-vaping issues (if nec)

It is gd that there is a new legislation for vaping with drugs  next year and will be initiated by MOH

RY, [22/9/2025 12:32 pm]

Tks for livestream and is watching

365, [22/9/2025 12:40 pm]

Suggestions for the parliamentary sittings, pardon my ignorance if this already exists. 

Think there can be an archive for the videos, as well as a list of the topics of interest discussed for the date for the sittings, together with timestamps on when the topic is being discussed. This way, citizens can follow up on the debates at a time more convenient for them, and also to jump to topics that are of interest to them straightaway.

Dr. Goh, [22/9/2025 12:43 pm]

We've given it decades. Bus services didn't improve. It's all profit driven. We should make cars affordable since the government isn't serious about solving problems.

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 12:45 pm]

Mrt always the fastest way to get around in public transport

Dr. Goh, [22/9/2025 12:45 pm]

For school bullying, the message to public is clear - not allowed to gather evidence, punish for voicing out, pretend the problems don't exist.

Solution - members of the public ignore government rules and make public all incidents of bullying to prevent any potential wrongdoing.

RY, [22/9/2025 1:19 pm]

Acting MOT Jeffrey is gd in answering the qns 

Main is to improve quality engineering/connectivity/investment required/accountability with penalty (if nec) for public transport

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 1:24 pm]

I really dislike the phrase it happens in every city like shifting the blame like not my taiji

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 1:25 pm]

Next time when you are late you tell your boss it happens in every company

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 1:26 pm]

I am still the most punctual

RY, [22/9/2025 1:59 pm]

Very gd statement by our Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan with regards to Gaza 

I am glad that SG is constantly extending helping hand to Palestine, and in recognising 2-state solutions by UN

REACH Singapore, [22/9/2025 2:04 pm]

📢 Topic 📢

REACH Singapore, [22/9/2025 2:07 pm]

Dear Contributors, in case you missed it, here is a recap of what has been discussed in parliament so far:

👉🏻 On vaping and etomidate usage: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/etomidate-vapes-kpods-overseas-dealt-5361236

👉🏻 On rail disruptions: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/parliament-train-disruption-smrt-sbst-jeffrey-siow-5361191

RY, [22/9/2025 2:07 pm]

Tks Reach Team

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 2:12 pm]

duration of fault (min) and people affected divide by mkbf

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 2:16 pm]

So if fault happen in late night around 11 pm I think not many people affected compared to fault happen on peak hours

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 2:17 pm]

Cause mkbf only measure fault. I think commuters are okay with 5 -10min delays rather than 7 Day faults

Adam, [22/9/2025 2:28 pm]

Idk how they enforce this. Never been tested at the airport and wouldnt want our public service to waste time either.

 But probably if a joker post usage online they are just asking for it

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 2:31 pm]

Ya lor so many people how to get test

365, [22/9/2025 2:34 pm]

Probably tip offs. My guess is that the law is there so they can prosecute those who do abuse drugs overseas, and then that abuse eventually cause problems to the locals because of the a user's behavior.

365, [22/9/2025 2:34 pm]

It would also prevent some people from trying drugs overseas anyway, even if there's no reliable way to detect at the customs

365, [22/9/2025 2:35 pm]

So it's still a net positive, regardless of the likelihood of enforcement

G, [22/9/2025 2:36 pm]

What's the rationale behind not sanctioning Israel? 

Since we made it very clear that SG position is basically adhere to internal "rule of law" hence sanction Russia

But Israel has conducted unprovoked strikes into Lebanon, Qatar etc since the Gaza conflict began, not to mention them striking hospitals too. Correct me if I'm wrong, don't these also constitute breaking international law?

Won't SG be seen as being cherry picking laws if we don't sanction Israel similarly? 

We can continue to claim to be impartial and say we don't take sides but our actions (sanction Russia but not Israel) speak otherwise. How then will other countries see us?

G, [22/9/2025 2:40 pm]

Transport minister can say he would rather last COE go towards PHV but:

There needs to be a level playing field regarding car payments.. Correct me if I'm wrong. PHV can be purchased with 100% loan.  But individual car buyers can only take up to 70% loan, 30% cash payment

This is a significant difference in financing, and I won't be surprised if this is a contributory factor into the ballooning COE prices

Adam, [22/9/2025 2:49 pm]

Might makes right. One day maybe have to recognize crimea as part of russia and settled areas as part of israel.

Singapore is idealistic in trying to inculcate a world of diplomacy but realistically violence is an effective means to an end.

Adam, [22/9/2025 2:53 pm]

Taiwan is another matter too. With diplomacy in the world dying, will it be the next flashpoint? Palestine is far away we all say. Dun care we all say. If china takes over the island closer to home, they will also say, russia can do it. Israel can do it. Why not us?

Adam, [22/9/2025 2:53 pm]

Might makes right after all

Adam, [22/9/2025 2:55 pm]

Maybe china can also enforce its south china sea claim all the way to pedra branca. I dunno if usa will bother intervening with its isolationist movement

RY, [22/9/2025 3:10 pm]

A good debate about Gaza/Israel topics in parliament

And I learnt a lot fm Minister Vivian Balakrishnan statement and his replies to all queries

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 3:15 pm]

Maybe buy phv for personal use

Adam, [22/9/2025 3:21 pm]

Our roads are already crowded as it is and if the phv people fully utilize it, can get worse

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 3:31 pm]

The only problem is population too high

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 3:32 pm]

I think that is the root cause of problems

G, [22/9/2025 3:39 pm]

So... what other indicators are there and how does SG fare in those indicators vs rest of the world?

"Mr Siow said that using the reliability indicators such as the mean kilometres between failure (MKBF), Singapore’s train system remains one of the most reliable in the world."

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/parliament-train-disruption-smrt-sbst-jeffrey-siow-5361191


LCL (Danny 心), [22/9/2025 3:51 pm]

*Gaza Humanitarian Crisis*

1. Gaza conflict is a massive humanity crisis.


2. It wouldn't have happen if 2 races and religious groups exhibit tolerance, the desire to coexist, mutual respect and mutual accomodation - in view of the same religious root - the Abrahamic lineage.


3. But unfortunately, the 2 groups are unable to learn the real crux of religions - compassion. tolerance and mutual respect - but exhibit the worst behaviour of humanity - intolerance of one another to the point of "denying the existence of the other group" - and now exhibiting the behavior of "genocide" - each attempt to eradicate the other groups.


4. Start with Hamas taking hostages and killing many civilians and military personnel - in terrorist attacks - to deny the existence of Israelis.


5. And reciprocal attack by the far right Israel cabinets - that have gone too far, for too long - employing indiscriminate bombings that kill many innocent civilians, systematic hunger deprivation and denying shelter for civilians and systematic driving civilians out of their settlement.


6. Both their religions that preach wholesomeness of humanity are completely disregarded - but the most cruel, ruthless and evil form of humanity rear its head with impunity --- totally appaling to watch.


If hell exist, Gaza it is.


Adam, [22/9/2025 3:51 pm]

It has been ongoing for long long long time

Adam, [22/9/2025 3:52 pm]

Ever since end of ww2

Adam, [22/9/2025 3:53 pm]

The reason Palestinians get upset with the surge of migrant long ago is the same reason israel wont give people citizenship if they annex

Adam, [22/9/2025 3:54 pm]

Dont even think that this issue just started a few years back

G, [22/9/2025 3:54 pm]

In the same vein of being seen by other countries as cherry picking:

How come like this requirement to recognise a "State of Palestine" is applicable for Palestine (right for Israel to exist) but not applicable for Israel (right for Palestine to exist), given that Netanhayu has publicly expressed desire to "conquer Gaza"?

"We will recognise the State of Palestine when it has an effective government that accepts Israel’s right to exist and categorically renounces terrorism," Dr Balakrishnan said in his ministerial statement.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/singapore-palestine-state-israel-gaza-war-5361211

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-israel-will-conquer-gaza-regardless-of-whether-hamas-accepts-hostage-deal/

REACH Singapore, [22/9/2025 4:01 pm]

📢 Topic 📢


LCL (Danny 心), [22/9/2025 4:07 pm]

7. If the place of Israel, Gaza and West Bank are the so call "holy sites" whereby their respective religions preach - then ideally, both groups should coexist peacefully and in harmony with representation in the Government - because they are worshiping the same Divine root - the Abrahamic lineage though with different branches - different prophets.


8. Why can't both groups respect one another, coexist in harmony and accord one another spaces to worship and build a better future for their respective communities through education, jobs and welfare - as one united people regardless of race and religion based on justice, equality and prosperity for the progress of one Nation?


9. Then there is no need to go through the painful process of negotiated settlement to carve out terriories - one part to Israel, another part to Palestine - and both want the control of the "holy places" --- which are bound to fight - when both unable to give and take - as both claim "holy events happen at the same place - and die die both want". Then it will end up using "arm to settle" - who is mighty, who takes.


10. However, if both can mutually coexist, and both share the "holy places" as one family (one Country but 2 different races and religions) - as they belong to "us" or "we" - then no arm conflict will arise.


11. The crux is - both groups refuse to "share" - either mine or none - and this have bring about centuries and decades of conflicts and bloodshed in the name of religions and races - and a supposedly "holy places" has in effect turn into "a living hell".


Where is the holy places expounded by either religions? 

The whole world see it is a "living hell".


REACH Singapore, [22/9/2025 4:08 pm]

🌍 Ministerial statements on the Gaza issue:

👉🏻 Minister Vivian Balakrishnan: Singapore will reconsider position on recognising Palestine state if situation deteriorates (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/singapore-palestine-state-israel-gaza-war-5361211)

👉🏻 Acting Minister-in-charge of Muslim Affairs  Faishal Ibrahim: Singapore's recognition of Palestinian state 'not a question of if, but when' (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/faishal-ibrahim-israel-hamas-recognise-palestinian-state-5361451)

G, [22/9/2025 4:11 pm]

So... acting minister-in-charge of muslim affairs and foreign minister contradicting each other?

One say "not a question of if, but when", the other say "will reconsider position"

So which is which?


LCL (Danny 心), [22/9/2025 4:15 pm]

12. Since both groups are unable to have the Great Compassion (大爱), the Greater Love of Humanity that are expounded by the real crux of religions, then look like the UN have to settle for 2 States - One Israel State and One Palestine State - the 2nd best option.


13. But the journey to achieve this 2-States Solution will be long and arduous -- because even if lands and settlement are nicely carved out and respected - "the shared holy places" will be a new fighting ground - and will not be possible to settle unless "the Great Compassion, the Greater Love", mutual respect, tolerance, accomodation and Empathy "We" are embraced by both groups.


LCL (Danny 心), [22/9/2025 4:26 pm]

14. There are multi-level steps to the 2-States Solution :-

a. West Bank is run by Palestine Authority which are recognised by UN and Singapore.

b. Gaza is run by Hamas - the militants and terrorist group that deny the existence or right to exist for Israel.

c. Israel far right groups actively displacing settlement in West Bank and Gaza

(not including the holy places)


a.b. and c. --- will need a political negotiated settlement - to carve out lands and spaces to form the 2-States with respected borders.

If there are political wills and both accept each other's rights to exist - then these political settlement of borders for the 2 States could be reached.

I don't see this happening in the immediate future - but medium and long term could be plausible --- when cool and wise minds rule both groups.


15. The hardest part is who control and managed the "holy places" and allow both groups to worship and pray without animosity to either groups?


This will need both group communities to inherit the real virtues of their respective religions --- Great Compassion (大爱), Greater Love for Humanity, Mutual Respect, Tolerance, Accomodation, Empathy "We".


Without the respective religious leaders of both groups convincing their respective communities working in tandem with their respective political leaders --- there will be no resolution to these holy conflicts - that rattled peace throughout the World - with disciples of the respective religions dwelling in many Countries including Singapore.


LCL (Danny 心), [22/9/2025 4:44 pm]

*Rail disruptions*

1. MRT has formed the backbone of commuter's travelling - in fact more important than bus, taxi, private hires and private cars.


2. Hence expectations of the reliability of the MRT become very high - as MRT is transmitting a high volume of commuters to practically every part of Singapore - safe for the last miles that are commuted through bus.


3. Hence, when the MRT in some sections breakdown, the inconveniences to commuters is very great.


4. But our MRT systems have grow very big and extensive - covering almost every corner of Singapore.


5. Being mechanical, electronics and electrical - under the law of physics and science - components failure, signaliing software failure and faulty modules - in such a big extensive network is bound to happen from times to times.

Any engineers and operators who managed large network - be it rail, train, IT operations, telecommunications etc --- will experience these in their day-to-day operations.


6. As humans, not Divines, we can't stop system, components from failing - but we need to build mitigation, redundancy, resiliency, alternative routes, useful information (such as apps to help commuters, redirect routes or alternative transport system when failure occurs) -- to cushion the inconvenience and impact of MRT failures that occur from time to time.


7. LTA publishing comparison charts on the service availability indicators with reputable MRT system all over the World from time to time is also helpful - to manage commuters' expectations.


LCL (Danny 心), [22/9/2025 4:51 pm]

8. Having say so, there are few areas that we can look into to help commuters when MRT fault occurs - so that commuters will activate their alternative travel route when a disruption occurs and not inconvenience their traveling to study, work or play :-


a. Hopefully a mobile apps can be developed that show which MRT line is down - red link with a cross and the time of failure.

Then show information on alternative routes via another MRT line(s) and/or bus numbers to each unreachable MRT stations.

Commuters will then can easily hop into alternative travelling route to reach their destination --- this will make Commuters more accomodating to faulty MRT that can occur from time to time.


LCL (Danny 心), [22/9/2025 4:56 pm]

b. Ensure redundant MRT lines are planned and developed throughout Singapore - as long as fiscal budget permit, sufficient commuter loads to justify the lines, and grounds/lands/spaces/infrastructures permit.

This is the best resiliency and redundancy approach to mitigate faulty MRT line from time to time - as the impact and inconvenience is the least.

However if this is not possible, then more resources such as mobile apps that provide the right info to replacement buses and staff to redirect traffic from faulty MRT stations to the alternate buses will be required.

Periodic exercise will need to be conducted for activation of such replacement buses and staff familiarities exercise on such contingency will need to be conducted.


LCL (Danny 心), [22/9/2025 5:06 pm]

c. Ensure components resiliency and automatic failover if failure occurs if technologies permit should be designed, procured, implemented and tested.

Eg. signaling software if fail - can failover seamlessly to a backup software?

power failure if happen - can failover to another power source

track inspection - can it be done by sensor everyday after operation to detect fault and then trigger emergency replacement if sensor detect faulty tracks?


d. Publish service availability of our MRT system - in comparison with world MRT systems periodically and especially after a disruption occurs --- to benchmark are we doing ok within the World's MRT benchmark? This will manage the commuters' expectations.


e. The formation of the task force by our Acting Minister in Transport to beef up the redundancy and resiliency of the MRT is a good move. Hopefully, more resiliency and redundancy can be designed to make MRT disruptions not inconvenient commuters as redundant components kicks in transparent to commuters.

If not possible, then alternative routes should be as seamless as possible minimising commuters inconvenience. I think in particular, LRT with less chances of redundant line will need this.


LCL (Danny 心), [22/9/2025 5:24 pm]

*Bullying in Schools*

1. I think bullying in schools is quite worrying for most parents - because parents expect their children to be safe in schools, learn knowledge and make friends - not to be physically and mentally bully at schools, beaten up or even threaten with sharp objects.


2. Time is too short to dive deep into it....


LCL (Danny 心), [22/9/2025 5:52 pm]

1. Compassion, Greater Love build Heaven, Paradise.

2. Hatred, Intolerance breed Hell.


万法唯心造。

由因缘生。

由因缘灭。


Heart determine destiny.

Good heart build Heaven.

Bad heart destroy and breed Hell.


No political settlement can take place when Heart is unwilling from both groups.


Hence Heaven is in the Heart.

Or Hell is in the Heart.

There are no holiest places on earth except in the Heart.

A Compassion Heart or an Intolerance Heart.


REACH Singapore, [22/9/2025 6:05 pm]

📢 Topic 📢

REACH Singapore, [22/9/2025 6:45 pm]

Dear Contributors,

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Thank you very much for being part of our Telegram chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan 😊

G, [22/9/2025 6:48 pm]

Disappointing to see foreign minister adopt such a posture:

"We will recognise the State of Palestine when it has an effective government that accepts Israel’s right to exist and categorically renounces terrorism," Dr Balakrishnan said in his ministerial statement.

Should SG diplomacy ever deteriorate and we find ourselves being "conquered" by a much larger neighbour and we need help from the "international community", would we want others to adopt similar posture against us as described by foreign minister? 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/singapore-palestine-state-israel-gaza-war-5361211

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 6:58 pm]

Wait is the bullying case debated?

Jun Ming, [22/9/2025 6:59 pm]

Sorry as don't have so much time to search for it

REACH Singapore, [22/9/2025 7:01 pm]

Dear Contributors

We will be closing the chat for today.

Thank you very much for being part of our Telegram chat and participating actively.

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Megan 😊


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Monday, September 15, 2025

REACH (Telegram) 95 -  What are your views on efforts to ensure children's digital safety and wellbeing? What more can be done to ensure this?

(SK)

15 Sep 2025 (10am - 7pm)


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REACH Singapore, [15/9/2025 9:45 am]

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REACH Singapore, [15/9/2025 10:01 am]

📢 Topic 📢

On 12 September (Friday), the Digital Parent Survey findings was released by the Ministry of Digital Development and Information (MDDI). The study aims to understand how parents are managing the digital activities of their children in order to help the Government better support parents.

This survey was conducted in February and involved nearly 2000 parents in Singapore, with children aged between two and 17. Parents were asked how much time their children spent daily on digital devices for leisure, and about their concerns and what sort of help they need. Almost all the parents surveyed expressed concern about online harm or risk that their child may face while engaging in online activities.

In his 2025 National Day Rally speech, Prime Minister Lawrence Wong spoke about the impact of technology on young people. He said that Singapore must make full use of technological developments. "But we must also be clear-eyed about the downsides, and manage them carefully. And that means striking the right balance. A balance between protecting our young from the potential harms. And equipping and empowering them to fully exploit the benefits of technology," he added. He acknowledged in his speech that it was difficult for parents "to set boundaries, or even to know what their children are doing" online.

In January, the Ministry of Health provided the stricter screen use guidelines, as part of a national health strategy to encourage children and adolescents to adopt healthier lifestyles. The ministry also advised parents not to use screens to occupy or distract children, and not to use screens during mealtimes.

💬 What are your views on efforts to ensure children's digital safety and wellbeing? What more can be done to ensure this?

📌 Survey Findings

MDDI's survey found that the use of digital devices by young children is "very high". Many children exceeded the Ministry of Health’s recommended daily screen time limits.

Around a quarter of those aged between seven and nine spend more than the recommended two-hour daily screen time limit on weekdays, with the figure doubling on weekends. Parents said they struggle with keeping screens from their children when they are tired or busy. 

Parents also reported that their children use devices mostly to game and stream content. Among their top concerns are exposure to inappropriate content, interaction with strangers online, cyber bullying, screen addiction and exposure to misinformation or fake news. "Most parents acknowledged the need for them to play their part in guiding their child’s digital habits, with almost nine in 10 of them already taking at least one action, such as restricting usage duration or content types," said MDDI.

The survey also showed that only 37 per cent of parents feel confident about their ability to guide their children’s digital habits.

📌 Support Needed

Parenting has always been challenging, and has been made more complex in the digital age, said Minister for Digital Development and Information Josephine Teo. "Returning to a play-based childhood will take time, and begins with reshaping norms in children’s digital habits,” she said.

About 59 per cent of parents surveyed wanted more government support to help them manage their child’s digital activities. Among those who were neutral or agreed that more support is needed, about 57 per cent wanted stronger legislation to protect children online, while 44 per cent wanted digital resources or guides.

📌 Strengthening Legislation

"The government acknowledges these parental concerns and remains committed to strengthening legislation to better protect our children from online harms," said MDDI.

MDDI noted that the Infocomm Media Development Authority (IMDA) introduced in 2023 a code of practice that requires designated social media services to put in place systems and processes to prevent Singapore users, particularly children, from accessing harmful content.

REACH Singapore, [15/9/2025 10:01 am]

In March, IMDA rolled out a code of practice for app stores to minimise the risk of exposure to harmful content for users, especially children. The designated app stores are also to put in place age assurance measures to prevent young users under 18 from accessing age-inappropriate apps. These measures will be implemented by Mar 31, 2026.

A Bill will be tabled in parliament to establish a new online safety commission by the first half of 2026. The commission will enable victims to get help if they encounter online harms, and hold perpetrators accountable.

📌 Resources and Outreach

MDDI said the government will make resources more useful and accessible for parents, while improving community-based outreach. These include in-person programmes, such as workshops for parents. "We will work with partners such as parent influencers to amplify and share bite-sized content through social media," said the ministry.

"We will also work with grassroots, industry and corporate partners to encourage more ground up initiatives and spark a whole-of-society effort to support parenting in the digital era."

Minister of State for Digital Development and Information Rahayu Mahzam said: “Over the years, we have built a sizeable pool of resources to support parents in the digital age through close partnerships with the people, private, and public sectors, particularly through the Digital for Life movement.

"However, fostering healthy digital habits among our young requires sustained and collective effort.

"We will continue working closely with organisations not only to co-create engaging and practical resources and programmes, but also make them more convenient and accessible for parents."

👉🏻 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/37-cent-parents-feel-confident-child-digital-habits-mddi-survey-5343691

👉🏻 https://www.straitstimes.com/tech/more-than-half-of-children-aged-2-to-6-exceed-recommended-daily-screentime-set-by-moh-survey

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Adam, [15/9/2025 10:30 am]

The children of today grew up in very different times due to technology. We must be very afraid of technology to restrict it to protect the children. Looks like the population cant be trusted with agency and need govt intervention.

Old days, my parent ate simple food. With food technology, i see parents feed kids stuff laden with artifical chemicals and sugar. More kids are obese than ever. Are we gonna ban junk food from import? We cant trust adults to give adult food to children. Maybe we can have every restaurant serve baby food and only give dangerous adult food if you give nric and sign a waiver. Food companies are clearly evil for worsening the obesity epidemic but is banning them gonna be our first option?

Same for phone. Old days, we dont have it. Can survive just as well. What changed now? Is it because mediacorp sucks? No room for toys? If parents scared of tech, why not take away the phone? Clearly they know the risks when they give their child brainrot and blasting volume in public to keep them occupied.

The internet is hard to control. Do we really want the gov to to do id verification so they know you are adult on whatsapp and reddit? Bonus for linking your identity to what you say online. Should we ban websites that dont do id verification or uses vpns?

 I dont believe such regulations will be good in the long term. We need some way parents can keep their child entertained without phones.

Kai Bin, [15/9/2025 10:39 am]

In my opinion, I feel that children under 10 years old shouldn’t get a mobile phone at all and they should only get a phone when they are in P5 or P6. Therefore, my suggestion is for parents or caregivers to bring their children out more often to let them spend more time outdoors instead of spending time on online games or watching YouTube videos.

Adam, [15/9/2025 10:41 am]

I wish the gov surveyed me as a non homeowner if i wanted more gov support to buy hdb. And then use the statistics in their policymaking

Adam, [15/9/2025 10:41 am]

Amazing survey logic going to our policies

Adam, [15/9/2025 10:42 am]

Maybe we can raid the reserves to give children a fidget spinner

Ahin, [15/9/2025 10:42 am]

actually it is double edge sword... I remember the first time when computer came out with DOS... C prompt... all my sibling is not interested in computer. Hence, the result is that, I am better in that area... The earlier you are exposed to technology, the better it is... it is only how we control ourselves to make sure that the technology does not control us.

Adam, [15/9/2025 10:44 am]

Children arent exposed to the technical details in tech. Nowadays apps are a dumbed down system that wont teach computing.

Adam, [15/9/2025 10:45 am]

Young children wont play with code when candy crush is a click away anyway

Adam, [15/9/2025 10:46 am]

I dont think they even play puzzle games too. They watch videos

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 10:48 am]

Card verification can be the way

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 10:49 am]

Using credit card to verify the age

365, [15/9/2025 10:49 am]

It's always easy for parents to push away their parenting responsibilities by saying "parenting is hard". Yeah it is hard, but it doesn't excuse you from being a parent. Your child is your own responsibility.

Were you just pushing phones to them with minimal to no supervision to keep them busy while you're on your own phone? 

Were you the ones who make it easy to access unsupervised online purchases by saving your card information?

Did you take any disciplinary actions when your child did something online they aren't supposed to?

Parents need to self-reflect also. If you need government intervention for everything, might as well just take all the kids and put them in a specialized government facility to raise them.

Adam, [15/9/2025 10:50 am]

Actually, watching brainrot vids is a drug. Iirc, it activates the same parts of the brain. And these content creators specifically design it to keep children hooked

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 10:51 am]

Parents nowadays is not like before. Their responsibility in work have increased. And their work involved smart devices. So children cannot differentiate are they playing or working

Adam, [15/9/2025 10:51 am]

Just like sugar and caffeine, these things are bad for children when too much. But its the parents responsibility to take it away

🍏, [15/9/2025 10:51 am]

Still seeing many parents give iPads when eating outside at food courts and restaurants. 4 year old kids. Across all SES and spectrum. Parent is only eating own food. Could have spent more time to feed the kid and coax the kid. Weekend. Not weekday evening busy and tired.

365, [15/9/2025 10:53 am]

Whether the parents are working or playing on their devices is another matter. The main point is are they delegating part of their role as parents (interaction with their child) to a device instead?

365, [15/9/2025 10:56 am]

I still believe in "if you don't parent your child early on, society will do it for you eventually". And more often than not in a way that no one wants.

If parents do not want to properly do their parenting job, and still wants external help, then they better be prepared to give up shielding their child from whatever society will throw at them to shape them properly.

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 10:57 am]

Where got time to parenting

Adam, [15/9/2025 10:59 am]

I would say parents also need some rest on weekends. But regardless, they dont have alternative to entertain kids.

Long time ago i think some McDonald's have playground inside. What if we put playground and family corner beside hawker center?

Adam, [15/9/2025 11:00 am]

Let kids be active while parent eat. Then they can feed child when they become tired

REACH Singapore, [15/9/2025 11:00 am]

[ Poll : What do you think is the most effective way to support parents in managing their child's digital habits? Share your reasons in the chat! ]

- Stronger legislation to protect children online

- Digital resources or guides

- Workshops or parenting programs 

- Others (pls share in the chats!)

🍏, [15/9/2025 11:02 am]

New food centres have playground right beside.

REACH Singapore, [15/9/2025 11:03 am]

Dear Contributors,

We want to HEAR MORE from you!

💬 What are your views on efforts to ensure children's digital safety and wellbeing? What more can be done to ensure this?

We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active! 

Do also share your opinion by participating in our polls! The poll questions are pinned for easy reference, and your vote is anonymous. You can choose multiple answers for this poll. 

Thank you!

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Adam, [15/9/2025 11:04 am]

Oh. Maybe its not my area. I think the shopping malls i frequent also no room for playground. No incentive for them to make free play areas. Quite expensive to do those $1 kiddy rides when eating out

🍏, [15/9/2025 11:06 am]

I meant those very new format food centres Canberra, Woodleigh, Bukit batok West

REACH Singapore, [15/9/2025 11:51 am]

Dear Contributors,

We want to HEAR MORE from you! 💭

💬 What are your views on efforts to ensure children's digital safety and wellbeing? What more can be done to ensure this?

We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!

Do also share your opinion by participating in our polls! 📊 The poll questions are pinned for easy reference, and your vote is anonymous. 🤫

Thank you!

Megan 😊


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 11:56 am]

1. I feel that nowadays parenting is not easy. Especially it is make worst with smartphone that can access many things in web, some are very harmful ones to the young age.


2. I would say that I, my siblings and close friends circle children are not expose to the smartphone threat to internet as during our children times, smartphones are not readily available.

Now all are grown up.


3. Hence to feel for the desperation of the parents with young children, it must be at their wit's end.


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 12:00 pm]

4. Personally as an adult, I find surfing social media can be quite addictive and some contents are quite harmful.

I am quite disturbed when happen to come across videos that are violent, sites that promote unwholesome ideas or products.


5. Hence I can envisaged how will children of younger age take it when viewing such contents.


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 12:05 pm]

6. Children at young age are unable to rationalise how to process unwholesome and violent content - and could adversely affect them in their upbringing, mental formation and could even affect their mental health.


7. Hence I feel there are merits at the parents end with young children to seek the government help to filter the unwholesome contents from the internet via parental control.


8. This not only happened in Singapore but more liberal countries from the West.


Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:29 pm]

I have once watched a video that say if you don't want your child addicted to phone you need to give them things that is better than phone. Eg doing sports, travelling, photography playing with them which requires time and money that people nowadays lack off


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 12:30 pm]

I think working parents have not much time to do this with their children.

Hence smartphone become the nanny.


365, [15/9/2025 12:32 pm]

Running, cycling, hiking, all these don't cost much, or is even free.

Adam, [15/9/2025 12:32 pm]

Looks like parenthood is too difficult for dual income. Can a single income household with one housewife

/husband sustain a family here? Can we afford a house like the old days with only one parent working?

365, [15/9/2025 12:32 pm]

Is it just excuses and excuses. The most convenient one to use is something that can rile up everyone without it being necessarily true.

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:33 pm]

The main gese is spending time with children

365, [15/9/2025 12:33 pm]

You can do that through engaging in all these activities together.


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 12:33 pm]

1. Technically I have encountered technical difficulties when installed with parental control on my laptop even though I am technically competent.


2. Parents that are lacking in technology competency will be much worst off I guess.


3. Hence I am not surprised parents are seeking government help for young children accessing internet with their digital devices.


Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:35 pm]

Something is wrong when the helper knows more than you about your kid

Hanny, [15/9/2025 12:38 pm]

There are good and bad sides of everything. Screen time must be monitored. 

When my son was in primary school, my firewall prevented him from using internet. 

I loosened up when he was in secondary school. But we still tell him to stop from time to time.

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:39 pm]

The main issue is both parents need to work for long periods of time and left the weekend exhausted. 

Parents is also addicted

Hanny, [15/9/2025 12:39 pm]

Most important is to do what you say you will do. Don’t say A but then you do B.

Hanny, [15/9/2025 12:41 pm]

One friend has a boy and this boy somehow managed to buy a game. She did not delete the game. Her reason was bought already. 

My son did the same and my wife deleted the game.

365, [15/9/2025 12:42 pm]

You can even find videos of parents destroying gaming consoles they have bought because the child spent too much time on it.

It just boils down to how serious you are about parenting and what is your priority? Is that monetary loss more important than your child's discipline?

Adam, [15/9/2025 12:43 pm]

Parents and children need to be educated on how to use digital banking. Maybe banks can also step up authentication too


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 12:44 pm]

4. I happen to encounter a virus attack in my laptop and to wipe out the virus thoroughly in my laptop - I reinstalled and reformat my laptop.


5. However during installation, it prompt me for my age, and I casually type in 16 years old.


6. This is where my nightmare start because after that parental control kicks in.


7. Smooth installation and configuration are no longer the norm.

Administrative rights become limited and many of my apps cannot be installed.


8. It took me a long time to troubleshoot what happens to the installation process and even though I successfully installed the operating system, alot of my previous apps don't work.


9. Finally my son use Chatgpt to enquire the problem I face and the likely cause.


10. My son noted that one of the likely cause is age below 18 years old - that kick in the parental control.


11. After one day of ordeal grappling with the technical difficulties, finally we have found the root cause of the installation problem.


12. And with the new found knowledge, I reinstalled the operating system again, this time putting my age above 18 years old - and all the technical problems solved.


Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:44 pm]

Gaming is a form of social interactions just that it's going digital

Adam, [15/9/2025 12:45 pm]

If we apply the same regulation logic to banking as what parents expect of internet, then we have to ban mobile payments and credit card as its too risky and we have to think of the children

Adam, [15/9/2025 12:45 pm]

Lets bring fintech back to the 90s to protect the children

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:45 pm]

I pretty sure y'all go out and play for hours when y'all are young

Adam, [15/9/2025 12:46 pm]

Im too socially akward back then. I sit home watch tv. Discovery channel, nat geo, animal planet was good

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:46 pm]

Do parents allow that

Adam, [15/9/2025 12:47 pm]

I think a big problem is tv is so bad these days. Got horrible ads too. They go youtube instead.

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:47 pm]

Lol when I was a kid I watch cartoon and my mum comes back and cut the wire...

365, [15/9/2025 12:47 pm]

Yeah but within reasonable time. If it's time to go, it's time to go. The logic here is the parents control the time allocated for playing.

Adam, [15/9/2025 12:48 pm]

I think if children play football in void deck people complain

Adam, [15/9/2025 12:48 pm]

New hdb i think got no void deck anyway

365, [15/9/2025 12:49 pm]

It's to point back on the similarities of gaming and playing outside as social interaction, as he was previously comparing. Both are acceptable for their times, but within reasonable time and schedule.

365, [15/9/2025 12:49 pm]

Ever seen those that play until they don't even have proper meals.


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 12:49 pm]

Hence I agree with the parents difficulties in parental control if indeed their children smartphone come with it and need government help for the parents.

Because even techie like me also get into difficulties as many administrative rights are removed - and extremely difficult to navigate the digital device.

Not to mention coaching the children.


Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:50 pm]

So I guess when parents don't even allow to watch TV back then and these parents grown up and become one

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:50 pm]

They allow all the way

365, [15/9/2025 12:51 pm]

Exactly. It is till the point of over-regulation already.

365, [15/9/2025 12:52 pm]

Do you also want the government to impose quantity limits and ID verification when buying snacks and unhealthy beverages? You can apply the same logic to protect children and their health.

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:52 pm]

For 18+ website they need credit card verification

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:53 pm]

I think it will be good

365, [15/9/2025 12:53 pm]

There is vpn

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:53 pm]

To create a account

365, [15/9/2025 12:54 pm]

That doesn't stop anything. 18+ websites don't require any accounts to access.

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:54 pm]

Well for young kids they won't know vpn until a certain age...

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:55 pm]

Or maybe I am underestimate them

365, [15/9/2025 12:55 pm]

I'm pretty sure you're underestimating them.

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:56 pm]

But at least Google play apps can be applied

365, [15/9/2025 12:56 pm]

You can think 1 or 2 decades back, I reckon the adults think that kids won't know what a credit card is, and here we are.

365, [15/9/2025 12:56 pm]

For Google apps, there's parental control and age restriction.

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 12:56 pm]

But why would parents give credit card details to children

365, [15/9/2025 12:57 pm]

They don't, the kids just stole the cards used it themselves from what I've heard.

Adam, [15/9/2025 1:03 pm]

Nowadays there is a massive push for digital payments. Lots of places these days dont do cash. Are we gonna teach kids proper usage? Teach parents not to share their wallet? Nah, its easier to just ask gov to restrict digital payments so you have to login singpass and make children use cash.


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 1:05 pm]

1. At the concept level, I support parental control for young children 18 years below - because as an adult I also find it mentally challenging to process some websites with gruesome violent content, sites that promote deviant ideas and behaviour.

It disturbs my mood and my sleep when viewing such contents.

In fact when I come across such contents, I will skip it.

Children will have more challenges when they come across such contents. Hence parental control by filtering such contents and apps will be helpful.


2. But at technical level, wonder how can this be done?


Adam, [15/9/2025 1:06 pm]

Still though, banks need to buck up in authentication for credit cards. If kids stealing cc details can use it. Whats stopping much smarter scammers, hackers and theives?

Adam, [15/9/2025 1:09 pm]

Whats stopping children from running on the road? Or driving car? If police see children cross road anyhow with parents, who gets scolded?

If off duty polis see children look at disturbing stuff, will they educate them?

Adam, [15/9/2025 1:10 pm]

If we are truly serious, there will be regulation and parents will hate it. Otherwise its all talk

365, [15/9/2025 1:10 pm]

It's to point out that kids can learn and pick up things quite easily. I agree that we can teach proper usage (done by the parent as part of their parenting responsibility), but not over-regulate the internet.

The government can restrict their own service to use singpass and verification, not tell the entire internet to do the same.

Parents can have their own style, whether they want to share cards (credit or debit) or have their own kids use cash, but they will have to deal with the consequences themselves.

365, [15/9/2025 1:12 pm]

Actual physical access. This is part of the MFA that is preventing hackers already. Not sure what this would be in English, but there's a Chinese saying 日防夜防家贼难防

Adam, [15/9/2025 1:12 pm]

Imagine a super regulated world where there will be 'ambassadors' shutting down tablets in mrt and giving fines for these harmful behavior. 

We already do it for hawker center and its effective. Do we want that? Do parents want that? They asked for more gov intervention right?


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 1:13 pm]

3. I venture a guess.


4. When the parents buy a smartphone for their kid that come with Sim card or eSim, I presume the kid NRIC will need to be produced in the kid's name to be registered with the telco provider.


5. The smartphone will come with OS -  Google Android or Apple iOS?


6. During registration, the telco service provider or its agents will reconfigure the OS with parental control that will automatically restrict the administrative rights of the smartphone and control what apps they can use or filter off undesirable contents for apps the can access?


7. Now parents and children will need to be familiar with the smartphone that comes with parental control - because it will akin to a very unfamiliar device whereby access are wilfully restricted and navigating it will be a challenge.


8. So education on how to use the parental control digital devices will be needed for both the children and parents who are coaching their children.


Adam, [15/9/2025 1:14 pm]

Lol would barely work. The kid will nag and complain why got no tiktok on phone then parent will give their account


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 1:17 pm]

The children will still have access to tiktok with children content but access to other contents blocked I guess.

Can the service provider do this with Tik Tok apps?


Adam, [15/9/2025 1:18 pm]

I wouldnt trust youtube kids. I feel we need to have better curated content

365, [15/9/2025 1:18 pm]

The issue lies in why parents are giving in to their kids demand.

365, [15/9/2025 1:18 pm]

Who is the authoritative figure in this dynamic

Adam, [15/9/2025 1:19 pm]

Kinda wonder why they dont show stuff like spongebob and other 90s cartoons. They hold up well right? Or is it hard to find?

Adam, [15/9/2025 1:20 pm]

Not that its the best stuff to distract but probably better than the stuff these days shortening attention span

Adam, [15/9/2025 1:25 pm]

Back in the old days parents will probably complain kids watching cartoons instead of reading book though

Adam, [15/9/2025 1:25 pm]

Would a book distribution program help?

Adam, [15/9/2025 1:27 pm]

Or are kids too addicted to short form content instead of reading?

365, [15/9/2025 1:30 pm]

A lot of these are habits. There are still kids who choose to read in their spare time instead. This usually arises from good parenting cultivating their reading habits from young.

Adam, [15/9/2025 1:31 pm]

Yeah, hard to instill habits especially if parents dont follow. Kids will think parents are hypocrites telling them to read while proceeding to watch tiktok on phone themselves


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 1:32 pm]

Source:- Google AI

To set up parental controls on an Android device, you can use the built-in "Digital Wellbeing and parental controls" feature or install the Google Family Link app. Both methods involve linking your child's Google account to your own, allowing you to manage screen time, app installations, content restrictions (like age ratings for apps and movies), and even track your child's location. You can also set up content restrictions in the Google Play Store by creating a PIN to protect settings and purchases. 

Using Android's Built-in Features (Google Family Link)

This is the primary method to set up parental controls on Android devices, though it may also be referred to as the "Parental controls" feature in the "Digital Wellbeing" section. 

On the parent's device: Open the Google Family Link app. 

On the child's device: Open the Settings app, go to "Digital Wellbeing and parental controls," and then select "Parental controls". 

Get started: Tap "Get started," choose "Child or teen," and tap Next. 

Link accounts: Follow the prompts to select your child's Google account or create one, then sign in with your parent account. 

Configure settings: After linking, you can set app time limits, manage app usage, and set downtime schedules from your own device using the Family Link app. 

Using the Google Play Store's Parental Controls

This method provides more direct control over content within the Play Store itself. 

Open the Google Play Store: On either device, open the Google Play Store app. 

Access Settings: Tap your profile icon, then go to "Settings" and select "Family". 

Enable Parental Controls: Turn on the "Parental controls" option. 

Create a PIN: Set a PIN that your child doesn't know to protect these settings and any purchases. 

Set Content Restrictions: Select the types of content you want to filter (apps, games, films, TV, etc.) and choose the rating levels you find appropriate for your child. 

What You Can Control

Screen time: Set daily limits and schedules for device usage. 

App usage: Block or allow specific apps and games. 

App installations: Approve or deny app installation requests from the Play Store. 

Purchases: Restrict or require a PIN for in-app purchases. 

Content filtering: Filter apps, games, movies, and TV shows based on age ratings. 

Location: Monitor your child's location using their device. 


Adam, [15/9/2025 1:33 pm]

The funny thing is that the govt looks like it plans to do 'parental control' on all of singapore to make sure they control what we see.

Adam, [15/9/2025 1:34 pm]

Pretty sure china does it effectively


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 1:34 pm]

Hmmmm...

Indeed, Android has parental control.

Guess government will need to conduct course for parents on how to use parental control to control the children's smartphone.

Likewise, children will need to attend course how to use the smartphone with parental control.


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 1:35 pm]

I am very sure this is not the intent.

Nor is there any government statement that say so.


Adam, [15/9/2025 1:39 pm]

Just hope we dont have uk online safety act


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 1:42 pm]

1. I have briefly navigated the Android "Digital Wellbeing and parental controls" in my smartphone - and notice that the child needs to create a Google account.

The control is via a child Google account.


2. Immediately, I noticed a loophole that smart techie kids can bypass.


3. The kid can create another Google account and delink his/her Google account in which their smartphone are being managed by the parents' parental control - and they can access all internet content bypassing the parental control.


Adam, [15/9/2025 1:42 pm]

That smart kid will grow up to become a good software dev


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 1:43 pm]

4. Hence government will need to work with Google and our telco service providers to come up with a foolproof parental control mechanism to be effective.


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 1:50 pm]

5. Btw, I realise setting parental control for children devices and parents monitoring devices - require alot of technical knowledge.


6. I feel that parents doing so will find it very challenging. Less techie ones will be overwhelmed.


7. Hence parents will need government or service providers help to do so.


8. But intuitively, I find it will be a cat and mouse games between parents and children in the era of AI.


9. Because children could have used AI to attempt to bypass the parental control in their devices.


10. For parental control to succeed, a foolproof measures will be needed.

Hence government when implementing policies and laws will need to work closely with Google, Apple and telco service providers to make sure it works.


11. Education with parents and children will also be needed in how to use the parental control.


12. I don't find it easy and can be technically challenging in how to configure and then use it effectively.


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 1:59 pm]

Source:- Google AI

To change or switch to another Google Account on your Android device, go to your phone's Settings, then Google, tap the arrow next to your current account name, and select Add another account to sign in with a different Google Account. Once added, you can switch between multiple accounts within many Google apps, such as Docs, Sheets, and Slides, by tapping the menu and selecting your account from the list. 

Adding a New Google Account to Your Android Device

Open Settings: Find and tap the Settings app on your Android device. 

Navigate to Google: Scroll down and tap on Google. 

Access Account Options: At the top, tap the small arrow next to your current Google account's name to see a list of your accounts. 

Add Account: Select Add another account. 

Sign In: Follow the prompts to enter the email or phone number and password for the Google account you want to add. You may need to complete a two-step verification step. 

Agree to Terms: Agree to Google's terms and conditions, and the account will be added and synced to your device. 

Switching Between Accounts in Google Apps 

Open a Google App: Launch an app like Google Docs, Sheets, or Slides.

Access the Menu: Tap the Menu icon, typically in the top-left corner.

Select Your Account: Tap on your current email address at the top of the menu.

Choose an Account: Select the other Google account you want to use from the list that appears.

This process allows you to use multiple Google accounts on the same Android device, switching between them within specific Google apps as needed. 

Switch between multiple Google accounts - Android - Google Docs Editors Help

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REACH Singapore, [15/9/2025 2:01 pm]

📢 Topic 📢


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 2:01 pm]

See how easy I solicit the help of AI to hack the parental control?

Smart techie kids can do likewise.

In the past, without AI, I will probably have to fiddle with the OS and using trial and error to hack it. It could take me 1/2 hours to do so.

Now with AI, it just take me 5 seconds to type my prompt to discover the parental control settings in Android and another 5 seconds to type in the prompt how to redirect to another google account and hack through.


Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 2:04 pm]

I hope primary school not really using smartphone as a tool

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 2:04 pm]

So parents can say you no need a phone

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 2:05 pm]

I do not have a phone in primary school so I think it works

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 2:05 pm]

Only secondary school I got my first smart phone


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 2:07 pm]

Restrict 18 years below means only Universities then can use smartphone without parental control.

JC, Polytechnic and ITE also need parental control.


REACH Singapore, [15/9/2025 3:01 pm]

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Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 3:04 pm]

Schools should consistently remind students how to use digital tools correctly

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 3:04 pm]

Up to poly and jc

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 3:05 pm]

Eg school diary teachers can guide how long their screen hours is

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 3:06 pm]

And reflect if it is so much or just nice

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 3:09 pm]

In poly at least rp we have mentor programme. Maybe we can have it in primary and secondary school where students can meet the mentor to voice out concern after a certain period of time

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 3:10 pm]

And they can talk about screen time too

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 3:11 pm]

Not only on screen time but maybe other aspect  and mentor can advise them what to do


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 4:01 pm]

Just now in and around MRT, saw many students - primary schools, secondary schools, JCs (notice their T-shirts print), IHLs.

About 80% using their smartphones.

I peek into their phones to see what apps are they accessing.

Some see cartoon apps, some play games, many see Tik Tok (or could be Instagram or YouTube because their interface look alike).

Wonder how parents control so many children's smartphone...

I think telco service providers and government will have a nightmare administrating them if they come under parental control - in terms of installation, configuration, education, how to use parental control, encountering problems, troubleshooting, controlling what content can be accessed and what contents to be filtered etc...

Not an easy tasks.


REACH Singapore, [15/9/2025 4:04 pm]

📢 Topic 📢

RY, [15/9/2025 4:11 pm]

Parental controls | How to keep your child safe https://share.google/yed1Q0HPcX89w98c7

RY, [15/9/2025 4:11 pm]

Kids, No Phones at the Dinner Table: Analyzing the People’s Republic of China’s Proposed “Minor Mode” Regulation and an International Right to the Internet | Chicago Journal of International Law

https://cjil.uchicago.edu/print-archive/kids-no-phones-dinner-table-analyzing-peoples-republic-chinas-proposed-minor-mode

RY, [15/9/2025 4:21 pm]

Above are how other countries eg Aussie/China has revised law about children (minority) internet/social media use 

Maybe SG govt may also study/learn from other countries 

Also, the internet platform operators must play their part in the content suitable for children to access

Just like it is the platform operators eg facebook to monitor postings eg fake news/inapproriate contents to be posted 

Also, there shd be law administering the platform operators

Similarly, parents have to play their role in setting parental control in children tech devices


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 4:23 pm]

Having say so, notice that all over the world, even the liberal western countries all trying to attempt parental control on kids 18 years and below.

Even Microsoft use its operating system to do it.

So I guess the harm of internet to children must be real.

I think no matter how big the hurdle is, parental control can and need to be done.

But Government, Telco providers, parents and the public must be aware of the daunting task ahead of us.

For the sake of our children, we must persevere.


RY, [15/9/2025 4:26 pm]

To me, I truly enjoy my childhood during the non-tech/smartphone  era 

Nowsaday, the young generation children are too smart (than parents/adults) , as they easily find/access to info/data with this tech era and in fact children are more tech-savvy than adults in this era

RY, [15/9/2025 4:30 pm]

However I do agree parental control is nec, since children brain is still not matured to determine right/wrong, and they easily brainwash and also many fake news/info circulating in social media

The recent news in USA, a young kid learn fm TikTok and go around and press other people door bells, and later shot to death ...it is certainly a tragedy ...

RY, [15/9/2025 4:37 pm]

No phone in dinner table is a gd table etiquettes 

Bec dining time is also a bonding/gathering time with family/friends/relatives/colleagues and etc - hence treasure the physical time spend together

Dont always be on the phone during dining, and this is also showing respect to others/diners sametime

RY, [15/9/2025 4:42 pm]

Research has clearly show that too much screen time/3C is not gd for health/eye, whether it is kids/adults/elderly

Hence, learn to have a break fm screen time, eg look more greenary/exercise/bonding time and etc 

Eg msg may reply after, and enjoy the food while eating

As enjoying food is also part of our blessing and better for health in terms of digestive systems

RY, [15/9/2025 4:45 pm]

Having said abt the "parental control/limit screen time" and etc

Parents/Adults shd also set a gd example since they are the ones setting the family/house rules, ya

Eg no phone during dining time


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 5:37 pm]

Source :- Google AI

Yes, changing the Google account on a child's device can make parental controls ineffective, as the controls are tied to the supervised account. However, the ability for a child to change this depends on their age and specific supervision settings. If a child is under the age of 13, they generally cannot add other accounts to their supervised device, and any attempt to do so should be blocked by Family Link. 

When a child might change their Google account:

They reach the age of majority: 

If your child reaches the age of 13 (or the applicable age in your country), they can choose to end supervision, which would allow them to change their account or remove supervision altogether. 

Account management is not properly set up: 

If the account is managed through a web browser instead of the Family Link app, it might not be fully protected and could be more easily bypassed. 

How to prevent changes to the Google account:

Ensure Family Link is set up correctly: 

For robust supervision, use the Family Link app to manage your child's device settings, rather than relying on web-based controls alone. 

Limit additional accounts: 

Family Link prevents children from adding additional Google accounts to their supervised devices, which helps maintain the integrity of parental controls. 

To maintain effective parental controls:

Regularly check your Family Link settings: 

Make sure the supervision settings are correct after any device or account changes. 

Be aware of your child's age: 

The rules around stopping supervision are different for children who are above the age of majority. 

Add & manage supervision on a current Google Account

What parents can't check or do. Important: Your child won't be able to stop supervision until they reach the applicable age to manage their own Google Account.

Google Help


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 5:40 pm]

1. Confirm that age above 13 years old, if techie kids knows how to create additional Google account, it can delink the original Google account that are tie to parental control and bypass the control.


2. So age 18 years to 14 years can hack and bypass parental control.

How to do it?

Steps to remove parental controls for a child over 13:

Child decides to stop supervision: The child who is 13 or older can choose to stop supervision themselves. 

Parental removal: The parent can also choose to remove supervision at any time. 

Sign in and stop supervision:

Go to families.google.com/familylink (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://families.google/familylink/faq/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwii3dOyv9qPAxUaxTgGHRZ5AMkQjJEMegQIJhAB&usg=AOvVaw0WUEKsOIR6y2RnuXJ7uFoI) on a web browser. 

Sign in with the parent's account. 

Select the child's account. 

Click on the option to remove or stop supervision for that account. 


Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 5:41 pm]

At that age kids wants to take control of their own things

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 5:42 pm]

Just like I created FB when I was primary 3

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 5:44 pm]

So I guess it's proper guidance in school and at home

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 5:45 pm]

School need to teach how to use digital things proper and cooperation with parents is the key

Jun Ming, [15/9/2025 5:45 pm]

Allied educator is a key. Bring back them


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 5:55 pm]

I have checked whether doing a factory reset can remove parental control or not for ages below 13 years old.

Google AI say cannot.

So looks like 13 years old and below is safe.

But age 14 years old to 18 years old can hack and bypass parental control.


365, [15/9/2025 5:56 pm]

If need be, govtech or relevant authorities can create an app to assist parents with monitoring, linking a child and parent's phone and allowing the parent to set controls and monitor for or even block activities of interest, such as downloading apps or making purchases.

It's actually similar to how organizations control their devices, but you can make an easier interface for the layperson.

There is obviously a cost component to this, so it won't and shouldn't be free, but it's not mandatory either. 

It'll be available for market use also (not limited to just Singapore users) just like any other normal app, paid or unpaid.

The point is to create a viable product to assist parents if there isn't already 1 in the market with requested features.


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 5:56 pm]

Source:- Google AI

No, a standard factory reset from the child device's settings won't remove parental controls for 13 years and below like Google Family Link (https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-vivo-rvo3&hl=en-SG&cs=0&sca_esv=5b71cfa89013eb9f&sxsrf=AE3TifPzLV-W1biGWAoITUEkttz2w2Djgw%3A1757930153855&q=Google+Family+Link&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiJocKSwNqPAxWtSWwGHSq7KiQQxccNegQIAhAC&mstk=AUtExfAwY78X-TsDZGIDHUmwqXrhTE3uxYAeAckrcWF7afJfm8mJQRQ-HUykxBczOjrx0xNgd-l1FJy1_XDHM-fV9f-wduyNl0Hrsvq80ivt_d25Bb-_TzLlQlPW2PTOXmkn7ai-0Zx3jh8SZSPdgtMe0WY5I-IKPJkW3Yynsh_PBXlZml4VZmJ60HSLt-rWvWK2iMp4iodbKd1GQOa13iARdeaWDJVQhxNws00TIeQbhnGIGFGE3TzGsd7TjMxh5gvQRhwNaYoVoUbZB1qcuy0hseqN&csui=3) because the controls are actively preventing it. 

Instead, the parental control must first be removed from the parent's device via the Family Link app, or the device must be reset from the parent's device using the same app to initiate the erase process. 


REACH Singapore, [15/9/2025 6:02 pm]

📢 Topic 📢


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 6:10 pm]

One simple way to solve the 14 to 18 years old bypass - is to request Google to change Android parental control to 18 years old instead of 13 years old.

Problem solved.


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 6:20 pm]

SG secure have just trigger a 🚨 siren....


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 6:29 pm]

To summarise:-

So this means that configuring Google Android "Digital Wellbeing and parental controls" feature in Android Settings is not good enough.

It can be hacked and bypass.

Need to go Google Play store to download the "Family Link app" to effectively prevent smart techie kids from hacking and bypassing the parental control for kids below 13 years old.

For kids year 14 to 18 years old, even "Family Link app" is not good enough and can be bypass.

Need to work with Google to raise parental control from 13 years old to 18 years old in Singapore context.


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 6:37 pm]

Source:- Google AI

Yes, you can make parental controls ineffective, either by a parent disabling them through the Family Link app, or by a child who is old enough (typically over 13) stopping supervision themselves. To stop Family Link, the parent can open the app, select the child's profile, go to "Account Settings," and follow the prompts to stop supervision. A child can stop supervision by opening their own Google Account, going to "Manage your Google Account," and finding the option to stop supervision. 

For Children (if over 13): How to Stop Supervision

If your child is over 13, they can stop supervision by managing their own account: 

Go to their Google account: through the Family Link website or the account settings on their device.

Locate the "About supervision": section.

Select "Stop supervision": and confirm their choice.


LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 6:45 pm]

So Govtech can save alot of development efforts and government can save taxpayers money - just work with Google to change the age parameter from 13 years old to 18 years old in the "Family Link app".


REACH Singapore, [15/9/2025 6:46 pm]

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LCL (Danny 心), [15/9/2025 6:52 pm]

Without AI such project usually take a few weeks to test out, trial and error.

Now with AI, just 1 day can achieve similar outcome - testing parental control just with a smartphone.

Hmm .. no wonder AI can achieve productivity phenomenally and yet not replacing the knowledge workers that put AI outputs into good use.


REACH Singapore, [15/9/2025 6:59 pm]

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Friday, September 12, 2025

REACH (Telegram) 94 -  What are your views on the priorities outlined by President Tharman for inclusive growth through refreshed economic strategy, use of technology, and strengthening community ties amid global uncertainty?

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12 Sep 2025 (10am - 7pm)


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REACH Singapore, [12/9/2025 10:01 am]

📢 Topic 📢

A set of 10 recommendations was released on 11 Sep, Thursday, by the trilateral group, comprising Ministry of Manpower, Ministry of Transport, the National Trades Union Congress (NTUC) and ride-hailing platform Grab, which was tasked to look into the issue of foreigners illegally performing platform work. The recommendations would be adopted in phases by nine platform operators, and the recommendations include stronger enforcement and tougher penalties against illegal point-to-point rides.

Broadly, the group’s 10 recommendations aim to protect the livelihoods of Singapore’s roughly 67,600 regular platform workers and champion fairer and more transparent payment structures and incentive schemes.

 💬 What are your views on the recommendations to strengthen protection for local platform workers? How can they be better supported?

The recommendations were announced at a press conference by Senior Minister of State of Manpower and Health Dr Koh Poh Koon, Senior Minister of State for Transport Sun Xueling, NTUC Secretary-General Ng Chee Meng and Grab’s group managing director of operations Yee Wee Tang.

📌 Stamping out illegal undercutting

Dr Koh said a key consideration for the recommendations was that they should retain the advantages of the platform ecosystem while being able to be implemented in a sustainable manner. 

Aside from tougher penalties, the government will strengthen enforcement against illegal point-to-point rides by engaging online platforms to take down apps, channels and advertisements that facilitate illegal ride-matching. The government will also strengthen its own ability to block or remove these if online platforms are uncooperative, said the trilateral group.

📌 Fairer and safer platform work

For fairer and safer platform work, platform operators and platform work associations will work together to develop a set of industry-wide principles on payment issues and incentive schemes, said the trilateral group. 

Together, platform operators and platform work associations will also identify key information to provide to platform workers to address anxieties around income uncertainty, and schedule regular meetings to discuss key issues. Platform work associations will also continue to encourage platform workers to prioritise and take care of their health and safety, reiterating their individual responsibility.

📌 More scrutiny on outsourced workers

The trilateral group pointed out that some foreigners who perform platform work are legitimate work pass holders. These foreign workers are employed by third-party fleets under outsourcing arrangements with platform operators. They may also be in-house delivery staff for food and beverage or retail businesses. 

These individuals differ from platform workers as they do not receive tasks through an algorithm and are paid a fixed salary by their employer, said Dr Koh.

👉 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/illegal-platform-work-account-sharing-foreigner-grab-trilateral-group-recommendations-5342661

👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/requiring-platform-operators-to-report-suspected-illegal-work-among-work-groups-recommendations

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365, [12/9/2025 10:14 am]

Agree with preventing people from loaning their platform worker accounts, but think that the ride hailing is taking out a legitimate market demand. There is currently no legal door-to-door service. 

Apart from this, looking around social media (anectodal), it seems like many consumers have the consensus that the supposedly illegal ride hailing services provide a better service on top of door-to-door and lower prices. Such as the drivers being more helpful to load and carry luggages, to the legal taxi drivers being reluctant to turn on stronger air conditioning.

Even disregarding the price differential, the availability of service and the service attitude is a huge reason for the shift in consumer behavior. I believe that if these issues are not resolved, it'll be a never-ending cat and mouse game. There will continue to be consumers willing to take the risk, and illegal ride providers adapting to the authorities. Price differential is just a convenient scapegoat of an excuse to complain about the unfairness.

REACH Singapore, [12/9/2025 11:00 am]

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Adam, [12/9/2025 11:03 am]

The gov loves ai. But what happens when ai makes some jobs obsolete? Is the gov gonna ban ai to protect jobs?

Same thing here. Why are we protecting low skill labor when it is so accessible across the border. The discourse should instead be about the strain the foreigners put on our infrastructure. Mrt breaking down every week because too crowded.

 I think gov should regulate and allow these workers, but tax them to represent the cost to society, from environmental of trash disposal, to social of loss of jobs. When ai drivers take over, also tax for using road 24/7 and burning energy.

If they work while dodging taxes, well the law knows what to do. Maybe we also need to increase penalties and enforcement of financial crimes too.

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:10 am]

If the gov can get revenue from foreign labor, maybe it can offset the cost to society from difficulty of getting job, while making it less appealing for foreigners to take our jobs. If they take our job at least fund our cdc.

However at this time, it is too attractive to have a job in singapore with untracked pay. I wonder how singapore tracks all these with our very permeable border. If they cant track humans making money, how can we police drugs entering?

Hanny, [12/9/2025 11:16 am]

I don’t believe in shielding workers if that protection make us less competitive globally. 

Platform workers should be treated like taxi drivers in the past. It’s a buffer zone for Singaporeans who are in between jobs or people who have no better options.

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:18 am]

But should we make such jobs a buffer. Whats the career path like? Can someone use 10 years experience as taxi driver and argue its people skills for a business job?

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:20 am]

One day, maybe in 10 years time when ai drivers are better than human, should we ban ai taxi companies? What if ai driving is far safer than humans? Are we gonna argue that its ok for a few people to die every year from car accidents since we need to protect jobs.

Hanny, [12/9/2025 11:24 am]

Is there any career path for platform workers? I feel that it’s very limited. Platform workers should not think that their work as platform workers is permanent. It should be treated as temporary works.

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:25 am]

Yeah. Temp work implies theres an exit

Hanny, [12/9/2025 11:25 am]

If AI replaces them one day then it will happen. Gov should not try to prevent that.

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:26 am]

If its really temp work, gov needs to work with singaporean platform workers on how they can improve their career long term

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:26 am]

On the other side is platform workers who are elders

Hanny, [12/9/2025 11:26 am]

Some will not see any exit. Hence, we need to keep it for Singaporean.

Hanny, [12/9/2025 11:27 am]

This is exactly how taxi drivers were treated in the past.

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:29 am]

Im arguing that the gov needs to see the bigger picture. These jobs are not worth protecting. They are likely to be replaced, either by cost cutting foreigners or ai.

We need to tax these work and also find a way such that singaporeans can get better jobs

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:31 am]

Worst case for platform work is ai becomes too good and can replace them easy. So gov need to prepare for that

Hanny, [12/9/2025 11:33 am]

As much as gov try to provide better jobs there will be people who will be stuck as platform workers. 

By the time AI is good enough to replace platforms workers, hopefully the people have better options.

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:34 am]

By the time? I dont want a reactive government

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:35 am]

By the time our pop grows we can have more mrt

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:36 am]

We need our gov to prepare ahead of time

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:36 am]

Right now, do we see gov try to reskill and rejob platform workers?

Hanny, [12/9/2025 11:37 am]

Our gov plan many years in advance.

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:37 am]

Right now we have shortage of driving school instructor. Maybe gov can turn some long time taxi driver to instructor. Instructors are paid way more right

Hanny, [12/9/2025 11:39 am]

The problem is platform workers are treating platform work as permanent work. After a few years, these people have no value outside of platform works.

Hanny, [12/9/2025 11:39 am]

The incentive to reskill is small.

여자친구, 첫사랑 🏆, [12/9/2025 11:39 am]

This is worth considering.

여자친구, 첫사랑 🏆, [12/9/2025 11:40 am]

Or like maybe 2 jobs or something.

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:40 am]

Yeah as an example

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:40 am]

We also have lack of ambulance driver

Adam, [12/9/2025 11:41 am]

Got drivers for stuff like bus. Cargo whatever in terminal 5.

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:14 pm]

I think I have use illegal cross border service to Malaysia. Their service is good. Good attitude, point to point no need to carry luggage and bring us conveniently to our destination. In terms of safety although in terms of insurance may be compromised but I don't see much difference

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:16 pm]

So to combat illegal cross border service we need to make it more appealing for legal ones to survive. Illegal one's can bring me to Thailand and have the flexibility to bring me to eat on the way can legal ones do so

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:18 pm]

Within Singapore I think most people use legal ride hailing service despite the price because it's convenient and safe

Adam, [12/9/2025 1:25 pm]

One way to make cross border less appealing is to reduce local col. Why so many people going overseas?

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:29 pm]

Tbh going jb I wouldn't use illegal service. I just go to take a bus over

Adam, [12/9/2025 1:30 pm]

Maybe it depends on person. Probably more worth if big family do it

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:30 pm]

Then take grab in Malaysia more worth it

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:31 pm]

It's only when I want to go further up then I will use illegal service

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:32 pm]

For eg. Kl, Malacca, Penang

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:34 pm]

So I hope gov can consider legal services up to Thailand border

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:34 pm]

If government is serious

365, [12/9/2025 1:35 pm]

Not very realistic for sg drivers. It takes a very long time, and unlike Malaysian drivers who can still continue fetching passengers in Malaysia after dropping off in Thailand, sg drivers likely will have to drive all the way back to sg.

365, [12/9/2025 1:37 pm]

Door to door service is the biggest upside of the illegal ride services. If legal services cannot match that, you'll never resolve the issue.

365, [12/9/2025 1:37 pm]

And a better service attitude would help as well

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:41 pm]

I think grab have the capability to do that. Why not license cross border taxi that can fetch anywhere in Singapore and Malaysia. With a slightly higher price within local

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:42 pm]

Just have a category called cross border taxi

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:42 pm]

Or long distance taxi

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:43 pm]

Anything below 60km or any distance that gov favour or not crossing border the app will not book that type of taxi

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:46 pm]

So this to allow Singaporean pick up from kl to Malacca and get another passenger

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:47 pm]

While Malaysian drivers couldn't pick up within Singapore

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:49 pm]

This will then guide consumers pick up the legal services

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:50 pm]

Cause right now Singaporean got no choice but to choose illegal service

Adam, [12/9/2025 1:52 pm]

Got choice. Just buy a car and use causeway. Point to point very the big bad gov dun like. Just like the healthy alternative to vapes is the expensive less risky cigs

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:53 pm]

Bruh not familiar with traffic dangerous

Adam, [12/9/2025 1:53 pm]

Skill issue

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:54 pm]

Plus need vep

Adam, [12/9/2025 1:55 pm]

Gov logic. Not everyone needs to go to malaysia. Do you want your meal in reasturant? Or hawker center? Or JB?

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:56 pm]

Go jb I will have mak mak and restaurant

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:57 pm]

Can save space for housing

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 1:57 pm]

😂

Adam, [12/9/2025 1:58 pm]

Small space expensive here. Maybe got couples doing national service in malaysia every week

Adam, [12/9/2025 1:58 pm]

🤔 gov can subsidize them

REACH Singapore, [12/9/2025 2:03 pm]

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REACH Singapore, [12/9/2025 2:27 pm]

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LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 2:57 pm]

This cross border point to point ride hailing service by private drivers don't benefit Singapore:-

1. It eat into license taxi cross border business.

2. It eat into our private hire business and taxi services within Singapore - eg. Our comfort, smrt taxi etc, Grab, go jek etc.

3. JB private hire will clog and lead to congestion in our roads.

4. It will cause more accidents if road are congested and the cross border private hire rush for times to get more customers - how to claim from foreign drivers.

5. Local pay a big bomb for Coe to use cars on our road - this JB cross border private hire pay nothing to ply and clog our roads and deprive Singaporeans from owning cars due to congestion and congestion make us discomfort with too many JB cars.

This could lead to discontentment - and could trigger a political costs to our government.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 3:00 pm]

In addition, they are illegal.

Foreigners should not be allowed to breach our laws and do illegal activities in Singapore.

Else Singapore will decay, corruption, hanky panky creeps in by allowing illegal activities to brew among us.


Adam, [12/9/2025 3:01 pm]

Go after to company closing one eye then you see action very fast

Adam, [12/9/2025 3:02 pm]

Right now we are blaming foreigners taking job like how trump wants to deport illegals working in farms

Adam, [12/9/2025 3:02 pm]

No noney to squeeze from these people. Lets squeeze grab

Adam, [12/9/2025 3:03 pm]

For telegram independant stuff need more active enforcement and big fines


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 3:13 pm]

Singapore has make arrangement with the Malaysia government to licence more picking up points in both causeway for licence taxis and possibly through apps.

I feel that such arrangement is more orderly and legally arrange.

Singapore should not go back to the old practice of 霸王车。 Illegal practice of picking up passengers on the street:-

1. Without insurance - and if accidents happen, passengers are not protected and could harm our people and cars in Singapore.


2. Kidnapping do occur - eg. Picking up targets here and then drive to ulu place across the border and then demand ransom - cannot trace and save hostages (this is what happens overseas).


3. Taking away jobs from local private hires and our taxi drivers here who need to earn a living.


4. Clogging our roads, car parks, and could drive dangerously to pick up more passengers.


Hence I support our government efforts to clamp down on illegal cross border private hire - whether foreigners or our private hire that pick up passengers across the border.

I support pre arranged negotiated licence cross border taxi or hires - to ensure legal and orderly travel crossing borders.

To safeguard our people jobs here, safety for all residents here and most important convey the message that illegal activities are not welcome in Singapore and laws will catch up with people doing illegal or hanky panky activities.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 3:21 pm]

I also feel that even passengers taking illegal cross border hires should also be fine - so that the entire chain of eco system that propagate illegal cross border hires are discouraged.

Notices can be placed at all entry and exit points at all land, air and sea immigration checkpoints to remind local and foreigners that we mean business and don't break our law.

Singapore want to be squirky clean and law abiding.

No hanky panky or attempt to break our law will be tolerated.

Else our reputation of a clean nation will be tarnished.

This is how we build our reputation since LKY time - as clean, orderly nation to attract investors and put money to our shores that we are honest, trustworthy, reliable, one with integrity and law abiding nation - a model for the world to emulate.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 3:26 pm]

Many civil servants and officials from many countries come to our civil service college to learn effective, efficient and honest governance in Singapore and we train so many foreign officials including Johor officials.

The last thing we want to do in actions - is to say one thing and do another thing.

Our thoughts, speeches and actions - must be coherent to think, say and do what we preached.

No hanky panky should creep into our system - else our governance system will decay and fall one day.

And no foreign countries will respect us and learn from us.


Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 3:27 pm]

The only way to make illegal service goes off is to make the legal competitive and better than the illegal ones


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 3:27 pm]

This should be the right attitude.


Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 3:28 pm]

It's always demand and supply. If legal ones does not met the consumers demands then of course consumers will find illegal service

Jun Ming, [12/9/2025 3:30 pm]

You just search sg JB taxi you will see a lot of websites


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 3:30 pm]

Why Singapore is a shining example and practically lead the world in all aspect - is because of our right core moral values - that has win respect by countries all over the world since we break from Malaysia and become independence.

The last thing we want to do is to let decay start with wrong moral values and the whole system will crumble.

Just look at US now, the system starting to decay and the whole empire will be crumbling because unwholesome values are allowed to creep into the system.

上梁不正下梁歪。

Once we allowed wrong values creep in, decay will sets in and everything fall apart.

We must not tolerate and rationalise illegal activities.

This is the pitfall we must always safeguard and secure and never allow such value to creep in.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 3:43 pm]

Correction:-

Singapore tie up with India if can absorb half of our semiconductor ($66 billion) should be $6 billion.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 3:46 pm]

Our total export to US is ($53 billion) should be $43 billion...

The rest of products about ($30.37 billion) should be $20.37 billion.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 3:54 pm]

Also I support close cooperation and consultation among the trilateral groups - Government, Platform operators and Platform association union representing our platform workers :-

1. To safeguard the jobs of our platform workers 


2. To report any illegal cross border activities (public who witness illegal activities should also report).

And our people should refrain from taking illegal cross border rides or report suspected illegal delivery.


3. Platform operators should manage their apps and incentives to safeguard jobs locally for the platform workers under their care and ensure foreign platform workers stay in their border and cannot cross our borders doing illegal activities.


Likewise our platform workers should also not cross into the border and do illegal activities over there.

We need to set a good example for our neighbours to emulate.


REACH Singapore, [12/9/2025 4:04 pm]

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LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 4:05 pm]

1. Let bring back PM Lawrence Wong and President Tharman 2025 theme and value of promoting "We" value as our core values.


2. We value - means ability to emphatise and ability to see things in another person's shoes  - not looking only at our own interests but also others' interest.


3. I believe many of our platform workers are not in this forum - busy picking up passengers and making deliveries.


4. Hence even though we are not doing their work and sweating out like them - the "We" core values must constantly inherent in us to look out for them and take care of their well beings and their livelihoods.


5. We must be able to slip into their shoes, understand their pain points trying hard to earn a living, speak for them and take care of their well being - in the "We mindset" not "I or My mindset" - as it doesn't concern me.


6. As fellow Singaporeans, we must also ensure they are well taken care off as they slog hard to earn a living for themselves and their families members. And not 落井下石。


7. The least we can do is to lend a voice for them, help them, support them - not put them down as it doesn't concern me.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 4:12 pm]

Another very challenging development has taken place.

And I am very sure this will concern many people.

Trump and his administration is coining 25% tax on all American MNCs who hire foreign people in US and their MNCs overseas.

This means American MNCs invest in Singapore and the rest of the world are now impacted.

The intent of the new initiative is to make American MNCs pull back and onshore as Trump tariff to make America MNCs to pull back is not very successful.

About 5,800 American MNCs employing 191,400 (Source:- Google AI) Singaporeans workers could be impacted.

Now wonder whether Singaporeans impacted by this move will panic or not.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 4:13 pm]

"US lawmakers propose 25% tax to penalize hiring foreign workers over Americans".

Does this means American MNCs in Singapore that employ Singaporeans will be tax 25%?

https://www.financialexpress.com/business/investing-abroad-us-lawmaker-proposes-to-tax-american-firms-25-for-hiring-foreign-workers-3970276/#:~:text=Workers%20Over%20Americans-,US%20lawmakers%20propose%2025%25%20tax%20to%20penalize%20hiring%20foreign%20workers%20over%20Americans,-The%20HIRE%20Act


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 4:13 pm]

HIRE Act 2025: Proposal of 25% tax on companies for hiring foreign workers; how will it impact India? - The Times of India https://share.google/W0zj0RcVb7yLPYPWp


REACH Singapore, [12/9/2025 5:01 pm]

Dear Contributors,

We want to HEAR MORE from you!

💬 What are your views on the recommendations to strengthen protection for local platform workers? How can they be better supported?

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Do also share your opinion by participating in our polls! The poll questions are pinned for easy reference, and your vote is anonymous.

Thank you!

Megan 😊


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 5:02 pm]

1. At a first glance, this news look detrimental to us because America MNCs (about 5,800) are our largest foreign investors employing 191,400 Singaporean workers 2021. (Source:- Google AI).


2. If American MNCs pull back (onshoring) because Trump impose tariff on imported goods and now 25% tax on foreign hires - our GDP, output and jobs will be hit.


3. Trump wield 2 sticks to force America firms to onshore:-

- Tariffs 

- 25% tax on foreign hires 


Tariffs


a. Tariff for importing their cheaper goods back and sell to Americans.

But no tariff if goods are manufacture in US.


b. As tariffs is not very effective in forcing American MNCs to pull back, now he wants to use tax on American firms that employ foreign workers.

Both measures are to make America firms investing in foreign countries expensive so as to coerce them to pull their investment back to America and jobs for Americans.


4. But despite the looming threat, there are always 2 sides of the coin.


5. Now let us first analyse why Trump tariff on imported goods fail to onshore American MNCs? 

a. Global supply chain come from all over the world (be it raw materials, semi-finished goods, intermediate products, labour and talents etc) - in effect economic principles of competitive advantage and exchange of labour make economic sense for world countries to trade - so that the final goods and services are most cost effective, foster innovation and final products will be of good quality.


b. Imposing tariff and replacing it with import substitution (ie. Everything local made) erase all the merits of trade - resulting in inefficiency, less innovation, as a result higher cost and lower quality products which will be less competitive and unable to compete with foreign products and services.


c. Besides, America market though big is about $29 trillion GDP.

The world market is $111 trillion - US $29 trillion = $82 trillion.

American MNCs selling to the world market find no incentives to onshore all their business back. Only those American MNCs that sell solely to US market will want to onshore back (but not many because most businesses won't just sell to one market - but spread their business all over the world).

Besides some who onshore back encounter alot of difficulties in their manufacturing process as US conditions - be it materials, workers competency and willingness to work are obstacles.


d. As US employment goes down due to various reasons:- 

i. More unemployment as import business are badly hit by tariffs, tech companies cutting jobs due to AI etc - domestic consumption go down.


ii. Big capital outflow as foreign investors sell their bonds and not taking up new US treasury bonds.

This spell bad for as 70% of US GDP are generated by domestic consumption.

This means $29 trillion US GDP market will shrink. All the more, there are less incentives for American MNCs to onshore their business back to US with a shrinking consumption market and a poorer population with lesser and lesser spending power.


e. Hence Trump exorbitant tariffs fail to force many American MNCs to onshore. Even foreign investors that largely sell to US market also encounter alot of difficulties onshoring into a hostile US market.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 5:02 pm]

25% tax on foreign hires 


1. American MNCs invest in foreign countries because of various reasons.

Let us analyse what are the possible reasons:-

a. Diversify their operations - so as not to put all eggs in one market. (Eg. Insure against labour unrest, lack of talents or skilled workers, hostile legislation for business, need unimpede global supply chain).


b. Need to enter into other regional markets (eg. Using Singapore as springboard to ASEAN markets) and other Asian markets in which we have webs of multilateral or bilateral FTAs.


c. Tap into our financial hub for funding.


d. Tap into our more cost effective skilled workers and talents.


e. Tap into our more tax friendly, stable government, business friendly legislation, union friendly, good infrastructure and facilities that foster business and trade - to grow their business.


f. Most important, American MNCs want to sell to our growing and expanding consumption regional markets not a market whereby capital are flowing out, business environment are getting more and more hostile, talents are moving out, skilled workers are not readily available, business operations are unfriendly, consumption are decreasing, countries are over the world are pivoting away from the market.


g. Hence despite the looming dual sticks to force American MNCs to onshore - I personally feel that the impact on us will not be impactful as American MNCs will do up their sum.


But we must not be complacent and our Government, partners business, unions must work closely with the American MNCs to ensure their business needs are met so that they remain rooted in Singapore.

At the same time, American investors continue to invest in Singapore.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 5:43 pm]

Apparently this topic reveal the social class and fault line is very apparent.

Unity across our various social class is still a long journey.

The concept of "We mindset" - still need alot of cultivation...

As the ability to develop Empathy is still in its infancy.

And Empathy must come from the heart, not lip service.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/9/2025 6:00 pm]

Hence in our education system and our society, we must build Elitism as our competency in knowledge, education and work skill.

But Elitism must not take root in our heart.

Empathy must replace Elitism when come to fostering our social values.

Only then our "We mindset can take root and flourish" - that will help to cement our social fabric as a whole unified nation.


REACH Singapore, [12/9/2025 6:04 pm]

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RY, [12/9/2025 6:16 pm]

It is good that the Govt is finally taking action and plan to revise the bill, to protect those legal-working platform workers and their income 

For those platform operators, they should also abide the employment law in SG, and sametime take care of their platform workers eg health 

It should be a healthy and fairer competition among the platform operators and workers 

Hence those breaking the law eg illegal platform workers/operators, should be penalised ultimately  

And the penalty shd be stringent to deter people for mis-using/breaking the law also

To maintain a safe and happy working, the law/society/environment/employers are essential factors/consideration

REACH Singapore, [12/9/2025 6:46 pm]

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