Monday, May 23, 2022

REACH 351 - What are your views on the fire prevention efforts in Singapore? How would you rate your emergency preparedness during a fire incident?

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23 May 2022 (10am - 7pm)


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[10:00 am, 23/05/2022] +REACH: ๐Ÿ“ข Topic ๐Ÿ“ข

The Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) announced the decrease in fire incidents in residential premises in the first quarter of this year, as compared to the first quarter of last year. 

Despite that, some of the recent fire incidents have led to deaths - such as the Bedok North flat fire. Hence, fire safety continues to be a concern in the community and everyone can play a part in contributing towards a fire-safe environment.

๐Ÿ’ฌ What are your views on the fire prevention efforts in Singapore? How would you rate your emergency preparedness during a fire incident?

Some of the fire prevention efforts listed here:

๐Ÿ”นThe National Fire and Emergency Preparedness Council (NFEC) has engaged 2,294 new households on the importance of residential fire safety through roadshows since last November.

๐Ÿ”นSCDF conducts a post-fire public education blitz to residents nearby after a fire takes place. This includes going door to door to share fire safety educational materials with residents.

๐Ÿ”นSCDF launched a programme in October 2021 to equip the public on first aid skills such as CPR and using a fire extinguisher.

๐Ÿ”นResidents may refer to the household fire safety checklist found in SCDF’s online Civil Defence Emergency Handbook, to help them manage risks at home. There are also other free fire safety publications available to members of public on SCDF's website.

๐Ÿ”นSCDF conducts regular enforcement checks at residential premises to ensure compliance with fire safety regulations.

๐Ÿ”นSCDF acknowledges first responders’ efforts, the members of the public who put out small fires like rubbish chute fires.

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/community/fewer-fires-in-first-4-months-this-year-compared-to-2021-as-scdf-continues-fire-safety-efforts 

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/house-fire-what-do-prevention-tips-extinguisher-alarm-2490176 

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/community/more-emergency-medical-services-calls-last-year-fewer-fires-scdf-annual-report

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/community/man-tells-of-attempt-to-save-victims-in-fatal-bedok-north-fire-as-six-residents-get-scdf-award

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[10:09 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: The 5 Different Classes of Fires

The 5 main classes of fires are categorized by what caused the fire or what the fire uses as fuel, and are as follows:

Class A: solid materials such as wood or paper, fabric, and some plastics

Class B: liquids or gas such as alcohol, ether, gasoline, or grease

Class C: electrical failure from appliances, electronic equipment, and wiring

Class D: metallic substances such as sodium, titanium, zirconium, or magnesium

Class K: grease or oil fires specifically from cooking

[10:12 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: SCDF is also working with various stakeholders in fire prevention. 1 of the major counterparty is People association, various GRO especially C2E is working on fire prevention matters.

[10:13 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Each block equip with fire extinguishers at strategic KNOWN locations.

Residence or RCs should have the know-how to activate these fire extinguishers before SCDF arrives and hopefully things will be extinguished.

Unless the situation is more than these residences could cope, SCDF will be the call of that situation.

There is a need to teach residence on basics of fire from gas explosion to electrical related fire.

SCDF, Town Councils and RCs to converge in this education, practical and safety awareness program.

[10:17 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Self checks own living space.

Gas pipe and connectors, stove? 

Electrical plugs, PowerPoints and MCB? 

Electric bike?

[10:17 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: From a human psychology perspective, agencies and stakeholders need to continue the efforts to create awareness of Fire prevention among residents and non-residents on various premises. Unless there are early notification and automatic fire suppression systems on all premises, including residential units, otherwise (1) human awareness, (2) equipment and location meet fire safety standards are essential and cost-effective in preventing fire

[10:19 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: CEPP program from SCDF is an excellent program that everyone in Singapore should attend

[10:19 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Let's extend public housing safety initiatives into private Condo and landed homes plus (offices abd malls)?

[10:20 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Condo managed by mcst..

[10:20 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Intensity & Reaction:

10sqm fire vs 100sqm

[10:21 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: MCST and on ground staffs must have basics of fire fighting or know what to do next mindset?

[10:22 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Fire and water are two big natural disaster potentials!

[10:22 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Very seldom saw mcst and people association or agencies working together. Mcst has their way of doing their event, if any.

[10:22 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Plus wind

[10:23 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: The ground staff is covered by building fire regulations,  and usually should have a fire safety manager if I m not wrong

[10:23 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: SCDF occasional UNANNOUNCED spot checks like our DPM Goh Keng Swee morning drive in to army camps!

[10:24 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Hopefully! extinguishers work and NO fire hazards and no blocked safety evacuation paths?

[10:25 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: I m not sure whether Scdf can do surprise check in private condo, need to check the law and regulations.

[10:25 am, 23/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Generally home owners are aware of fire prevention and would have taken basic precautions against fire.

Perhaps the authority should look closely at the causes of these fires.

RCs should also reach out to elderly living alone and brief/remind them on fire prevention.

[10:25 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: "things happened and lessons learned, hopefully not...?"

[10:25 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Mcst and fire safety manager responsibility right?

[10:25 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Good idea! Hi SL!

[10:26 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Responsibility is part of individuals WILL and ATTITUDES, hopefully?

[10:27 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Diff  locations have diff types of fire. I understand SCDF does investigate the cause of the fire.

[10:28 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Army daze, we do have occasional fire drills and once in a blue moon actual fire fighting exercise...

Can be "Kallang kabor" for all!

[10:29 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Common fires are electrical and more dangerous GAS explosions!

[10:30 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Cylindrical gas tank vs SP gas pipe in

[10:31 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: From a typical learning cycle, humans can retain memories at a defined length of time. Continue awareness via various communication channels is the most effective at the current moment.

[10:32 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Maybe there is a need for each HDB floor ti have an electrical CUT OFF whenever fire sensor activates.

The next intervention will be human at work... RCs or immediate neighbors or call SCDF...

[10:32 am, 23/05/2022] +Uncle Law: In terms of the demographic of such houses

[10:33 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Based on the newspaper, common fire in residential areas seems like cause by solid waste, unattended kitchen cooking, electrical gadget.

[10:33 am, 23/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Old folks?

Or houses hogging to many items? And etc

[10:33 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: The best experience and exposure will be FACED the FIRE and TRY FIGHTING it... Hopefully not a fast and furious one?

[10:33 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Also commercial premises etc

[10:34 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Good morning Uncle Law!

Good point!

[10:35 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: CEPP from Scdf is the best opportunity to learn basic how to use the fire extinguisher and put out rubbish chute fire for residents

[10:35 am, 23/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Morning morning

[10:35 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Scorching fire is like standing 10 times near to a BBQ pit...

[10:35 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Melts your contact lens too!

[10:36 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Your clothings these days are extremely fire friendly too... Poly...

[10:37 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: House hogging in HDB units can look for help from agencies. No idea Who to look for help about hogging in condos or commercial units.

[10:39 am, 23/05/2022] +Uncle Law: NC

[10:40 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Most vegetable oils will catch fire at 232c while animal fats catch fire at about 190c, and it doesn't take too long for them to reach these temperatures. Grease fires can start, and spread, very quickly.

[10:43 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: The electric equipment with safety mark + awareness of looking for degraded equipment + not overloading eclectic current + replace of frayed wire + avoid improper connection + avoid running wires near hot surface & always switch off appliances when not in use may help to reduce the electrical fire.

[10:45 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Thanks for the info. nc worked with mcst?

[10:47 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: households may not be aware of these electrical checks and some will continue using till the appliance knocks off.. Or fire begins?

That's realities checking?

[10:47 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: In hdb, RC and C2E run the drill.

[10:48 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Good point, SL!

[10:48 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Agencies and people association need to communicate to residents.

[10:48 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Actual fire fighting drills are a CLEAR SIGNAL to all that...

Don't play play with fire!

[10:49 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: It is really scorching hot.... Our SCDF guys know very well and very brave to FACE the fire!

[10:50 am, 23/05/2022] +Uncle Law: To a certain extent, yes

[10:50 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Continue awareness is very important to ensure residents remain alert on fire.

[10:52 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Agreed, I observed myself in my friend's unit. Their collaboration is unique.

[10:53 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Our SCDF officers and NSmen are very brave and helpful.

[10:54 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: "that ONE in a Million chance, that's what many will think and count, perhaps will not be my home...?"

- - annoymous

[10:54 am, 23/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Pre covid NC organised activities for condos in the area

[10:55 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Fight terrorists, Fight covid, Fight Dengue and Fight Fire... Next?

[10:56 am, 23/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Fight Spam

Fight inflation

Fight low salary

[10:59 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: There are fire hose reels in buildings, each level for hdb and condo. A fire extighdher (dry power) or fire blanket should be sufficient for a housing unit (fire extinguisher required maintenance, and both gave expiry date). Putting a fire extender in the open + without monitored area may become a risk by itself.

[11:01 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Seems fighting a  lifetime effort! Uncle Law, thanks for adding more!

[11:02 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Reassess existing measures and area of potential hazards...

Lifestyles and behaviors changed, this half of 2022 and tomorrow?

[11:04 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Safest place is most dangerous... ๆœ€ๅฎ‰ๅ…จ็š„ๅœฐๆ–นๆœ€ๅฑ้™ฉ

[11:05 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: You means the high, medium low risks area for fire hazard?

[11:05 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: The lapse and gap... A need to eyeball

[11:05 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: What's hot today may not be hot tomorrow...!

[11:11 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Climate changed, these days temp getting hotter...

Outdoor areas?

[11:13 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: In terms of the lifecycle of fire, the established burning point usually is a combination of 3 to yield the potential positive heat feedback loop. If one of them is removed, the ignition may not happen, and it will be self-extinguished. Fire code will take care of the regulations required in building design

[11:15 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: BCA and SCDF have existing guildlines in print and implemented, however....

[11:15 am, 23/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Town councils and mcst need to continue to engage the residentS on illegal hogging of items along common areas.

If need be, empower them the authority to remove and issue fines the units responsible

[11:16 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: "fire has not eye...?"

[11:19 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Let's expand abit out of homes...

Petrol stations are safe place, likewise petroleum tankers moving and discharging are also safe vehicles...

Jurong Island is a safe place... 

Airport is a safe place too 

STRATEGIC assets must be constantly assess and audit for safety...

[11:20 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: "never say never...?"

[11:23 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: The Town Council has “by law” to remove obstruction objects in a common area

[11:23 am, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Feasible?

[11:25 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Not sure too. Sensor to install in a unit? This will bring up another issue of invasion of privacy maybe

[11:27 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Two years of "low key" of economics activities have perhaps RETARD certain elements of certainty and may lead to surprises like accidents and this case our focus on FIRE itself!

WFM will be a new lifestyles or business changes.

The world moving toward electronics dependence to inch up the productivity and so on....

So much so that we human are relying on technologies to mitigate this case can be a natural fire starting moment?

[11:27 am, 23/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Normally they don't act on it till someone conplains

[11:28 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: I see. Neighbour will complain right?

[11:29 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Using DRONES to fight fire in multi story building fire situation??

Drones connect chemical, powder based or water hose?

[11:30 am, 23/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Maybe handful

[11:30 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: "Receiving Complaints happen to be the cheapest IMPROVEMENTS in life...? "

- - annoymous

[11:32 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: Saw several video clips showing this type of deployment oversea, putting out a fire. Power usually is stored in a cylinder, water is with a hose, there are Some limitations on using this type of equipment.

[11:32 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Like REACH.... What a feeling to receive millions of feedback, digest these big data and come up with BIG KEY Words for each question of intent!

What a SMART REACHING!

[11:34 am, 23/05/2022] +SL: A drone is heavily used in all aspects of life, agricultural, cleaning, surveying, and removing objects from a dangerous high spot

[11:38 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Heavy duty drone similar to military use... Up to 500kg payload these military assets...

For fire fighting use, 200kg enough... Key is speed in setting up, effective range of SPRAY and reloading of water, chemical, CO2, etc....

[11:44 am, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://youtu.be/9iFQ0BLp4wM

[0:34 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…

[0:43 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Mr Rama, isn't it true or otherwise?

Feel the ground of all matters...

Big data is powerful in predictions up to 95% confidence... In Ukraine war, using AI to count and calibrate strategies from micro attacks to major troops and weapons deployment..

[0:53 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Complex algorithms ไธ€ไธพไธ€ๅŠจ

These day big data can identify one's mood, sentiment towards things through key words, what one's watches, communicates and consumes, etc...

Supercomputers with a good modelling will derive clear and calibrated answers to your questions or challenges... In minutes or seconds, depending on the complexity of tasks chucking data...

No place is safe, these days... (ไธ€ไธพไธ€ๅŠจ) only if, if only that entity is relevant to be watched or evaluated! 

With it individuals, a community, a company, a country etc... "those smart phones"! "

"Scale up or zoom in... the absolute power of AI?"

[1:14 pm, 23/05/2022] +jimmy chew: AI need good and intelligent programmers and strategist. There's a saying " garbage in garbage out.".

[1:19 pm, 23/05/2022] +Boon Phing: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/the-next-cybersecurity-crisis-poisoned-ai/2022/04/24/9615126e-c426-11ec-8cff-33b059f4c1b7_story.html


[1:28 pm, 23/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

1. There is so much the Government can do :- basically by educating, providing information to educate people to be aware of fire hazard at home and what preventive measures to undertake.


2. Household will have to be vigilant to ensure our own home will not become a fire hazard.

a. Ensure we will not keep a large amount of combustible materials at home.

b. Do not overload our electrical sources - by charging too many electrical appliances at one source - whereby every electrical source is only 13 Amp (13 Amp * 230 volts = 2,990 watt)

c. Ensure every house have a ELCB (Earth Leakage Circuit Breaker) - to ensure that when electrical overload or leakage occurs or using faulty electrical applances, the ELCB will trip and cut off electricity supply.

d. Ensure cooking of food is supervise and do not leave the house or cook without supervision - until the food is cook and all cooking appliances are properly switch off.

e. Switch off all unnecessary electrical appliances at night before sleeping or leaving the house - to reduce electrical load.

f. Do not burn or use naked fire at home - as accident may occur.

g. Do not charge ebike or eScooter overnight and supervise at home - as the lithium batteries are a fire hazard.

h. Fire rated doors and walls - can retard the spread of fire.

i. Do not store unnecessary items along the common corridor - as it may obstruct people from evacuating or itself will become a fire hazard.


3. I think common sense must prevail to reduce the risk of fire hazard at home. We must be vigilant and ensure no fire will occur at our home.


4. Most important, we need to establish the cause of the fire at Bedok North to determine what trigger the fire - so that we can take preventive measures and not make similar mistake.


[1:34 pm, 23/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

1. Just pondering, wonder whether does it make sense to install fire fighting sprinkler system at home - that will automatically activate once detected fire?

2. Office building has such installation but not sure about residential home.


[1:45 pm, 23/05/2022] +RH: My thots too...  On installing fire sprinklers in the house,  esp the kitchen & living room areas - these r common areas in the hm where ppl gather. 

Perhaps HDB can work w SCDF to incorporate these into future housing? 

As for existing houses,  how abt giving each household a fire blanket or house mini extinguisher as a start?  (in light of the recent fires this year,  not only in Bedok but elsewhere before tt too?

[1:48 pm, 23/05/2022] +KSFoong: All these systems need routine check. To install them for every household may not be pragmatic. But i do think each family to have a fire extinguisher is practical. We could inform the owner to send it back for indpection periodically for their own safety. Insurance company could add this as a requirement for fire insurance application  acceptance criteria.

[1:48 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: 80% of our housing are high rise building, offices too.

Our HDB blocks these days are 40 floors.

What if fire broke out at mid level or first 1/3 of the building?

[1:55 pm, 23/05/2022] +RH: As for education  ...

I hv not seen the RC in my block being active on this. No flyer, no notice, no reminder,  .... Nothing abt fire safety...  

As far as courses on fire safety / life saving CPR etc...  These r up to ppl to sign up.  Not proactively advocated by RC. 

My point is... 

Not enough effort is being put in to drill hm the msg on fire safety at hm. 

If ther r any flyers or leaflets,  these need to be in the 4 languages. 

Ther is a need for F2F contact...  PA or RC or grassroots volunteers nd to knock on doors (speak dialects if estate is more elderly oriented),  in order to bring hm the msg.

Despite all the hype on social media, and our devices,  ther is still a vast section of the popn who Do Not use tech or know how to tap into such devic…

[1:57 pm, 23/05/2022] +RH: Agree. 

I hv a small fire extinguisher at hm,  placed strategically in my kitchen. 

Last checked, expires next year.

[1:58 pm, 23/05/2022] +RH: Owners of PMD shd be esp vigilant... 

And shd not leave the device charging without supervision.

[2:01 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: RC will step up around election time and taper off about one year after New term

[2:04 pm, 23/05/2022] +RH: Like I said, start w issue of fire blanket or fire extinguisher to each household 

+

Let it be accompanied by an Auth person to explain how to use it. 

Alternatively, get RC / CC to organize distribution in grp / by block w in person attendance by at least one member of each household to collect their blanket.  This is less labour intensive and more organised. 

Only after this initial public exercise,  then flw up w visits to homes tt hv not yet collected.

[2:05 pm, 23/05/2022] +RH: ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…

All  "for show",  ya.... ?

[2:05 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Exactly

[2:06 pm, 23/05/2022] +RH: ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿผ‍♀️๐Ÿคท‍♀️  So much for politics..

[2:10 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: รup

[2:19 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Mr Rama,.... Wait!

[2:19 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: More!?

[2:20 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: 23 May, 2022 

"James Bond next buddy (ไธ€ไธพไธ€ๅŠจ)..? " 

"AI is like a big washing machine, throw in all sorts of dirty clothings, big or small pieces and all fabric types... With the tried and programed model of washing modes couple with the correct formulated detergent to not decolor all clothings, what's coming out will be a clean and wearables cloths less the sunshine to dry all...? "

- - annoymous 

" BE AHEAD OF THINGS - ANALYTICS" 

Situation 1:

Next physical large scale event (like NDP), the actual event day of a nation. 

Organiser captured data of live/posted online audience, length of watching, switch to other activities or channel of interest, all viewers physical locations and so on. From start to the end, every minute is calibrated and throw int…

[2:20 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Displacing and sidelined mankind in the process

[2:22 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: "Alternative to squeeze out advantages like squeezing droplets of blood from your pinky...? "

[2:26 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Perpetual blood bank

[2:28 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Caution... These days, a few dirty blood... Don't infuse wholesale, double check, please...

[2:28 pm, 23/05/2022] +Caleb: and plastic bags at supermarkets too

[2:29 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Next bio hazard.... "Fight plastic bags campaign "

[2:46 pm, 23/05/2022] +Guillermo Cabeza: Compared to say 20yrs ago it is now much easier and cheaper to outfit our homes with smoke detectors and fire extinguishers - I did so last year when I moved into an older place. I wholeheartedly agree with the comments above that more education is needed. The SCDF website is good but you have to already be aware of fire safety to go there. When there was the spate of PMV fires there was a lot of education about this before they were largely banned but now nothing. Makes no sense when you compare to the effort put into dengue.


[2:55 pm, 23/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Inflation will become 'very serious problem' for the world if measures are not taken: PM Lee.       https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/inflation-serious-problem-world-if-measures-not-taken-pm-lee-2699851


[3:08 pm, 23/05/2022] +REACH: Indonesian preacher denied entry had radicalised people in Singapore: Shanmugam

Indonesian preacher Abdul Somad Batubara had been on Singapore authorities' radar for some time, for having influenced and radicalised some people here.

More: https://str.sg/w23S

[3:09 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: 23 May 2022

"fire has no eye, humans have brains...?" 

Story of a fire:

Location, FLOOR, TYPE of housing, number of rooms, blueprint of this home, TIME of fire broke out (wee hours vs busy hours). CLASS of fire and AGE of home. 

MCB, number of electric appliances, aircon, etc

Number of casualty and number of unhurt? 

From call received by 985/999, how many minutes from call to the first drop of water sprayed?  What TYPES of fire? The EXTEND of the fire?

Ambulance arrival time? Equipments for saving burned victims, breathing apparatus, so on? 

From many past actual situations, perhaps the next fire will be better handled and faster reaction time. Will one fire engine, 6 firefighters and 1 ambulance enough for 3-5 rooms flat ? 

What's the analytics, ahead of things, this eyeless FIRE - preventions better than cure?

[3:18 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Gas stove.... Cylinder vs SP power

Fixed items + variables appliances at tines will OVERLOAD things like electricity supplies and so on, watch that gas pipeline with it cylinder gas tank or pipe in gas!

[3:19 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Rented premise vs owner occupied premise

[3:22 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: The degree of burned victim will be a good indicator of class of fire, proximity to fire point and time of exposures...

Wee hours are perhaps usually electrical fire versus normal busy hours that may be gas fire?

Where are the points of escapement? Referencing... Burning Flat, lower and above floors and the block?

[3:26 pm, 23/05/2022] +BL: I'm a bit behind on this thread... mandatory smoke detectors seems like an obvious approach. Subsidies for hdb where appropriate.

[3:28 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: What's the risk stratification by age, gender, profession, education?

In Philippines, these radicals love to 'recruit' university students. As for which specific university, no comment!

For a start, perhaps look at Professor J Allan Hobson breakthrough thesis on "chemistry of conscious states"?

[3:40 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: "If you see smoke, there must be a fire somewhere in the forest? "

- - annoymous 

This banned preacher may already started some fire in the thicks of the forest, where? Think like a young one - YOLO (you only live once)? 

By passing the place of worship! Private social media chat / small chat groups, these may be sweet spots for incubating and starting a spark?

[3:41 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: The ongoing dangers of lone wolf radicals

[3:43 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Mr Rama well said... You just raised the high jump pole by 1m!

[3:44 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Government the world over are having nightmare dealing with unorganised radicals!

[3:44 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Rephrase it...Little lambs

[3:44 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Utmost danger

[3:46 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Thr underlying sociapsycho profile of such victims are

Introverts 

Lonely

Lost in society

Feeling unfair

Mentally unstable

Impressionistic

[3:47 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: My sentiments exactly

[3:49 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Immediate family members will know if their younger ones are behaving off tune...

In a state of selfless and self... One key notes of professor Hobson.

[3:49 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: The trouble is some families don't report such things to the authorities

[3:52 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Identifying potential victims by Risk Stratification as written above...

Thats how FBI besides other electronics surveillance of targeted folks... Usually 80% confirmed cases

[3:53 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Ours somewhat similar!?

[3:53 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Smart phones is the first key into the espionage world

[3:54 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Anything social media platforms too

[3:54 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: No comment else my life will be HACKED after 7pm when chat closes!

[3:54 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฏ๐Ÿคฆ‍♂️

[3:55 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Telegram is one and others which is... No comment...

Telegram is not bullet proof. Who's running and who's own telegram? 

You will stop using it, starting now!

[3:59 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Metaphor moment :

Dropped Singtel

Signed with Starhub

Hopped to M1 for savings 

Doesn't matter, all three telcos use 4G/5G/wifi... locations are known likewise all messaging, browsing, calling etc.... 

"Only if, if only..." 

Unless you are a lone lamb with no SMART PHONE! 

THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM!

[4:04 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Fyi,

These meta, metaverse thingies existed in 1980s... In developments then by two now famous professors in USA, again!

[4:11 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Biden says would be willing to use force to defend Taiwan

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/in-tokyo-biden-says-would-be-willing-to-use-force-to-defend-taiwan

"no time to die,... 007 movie"

[4:21 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: US President Biden formally unveils Indo-Pacific Economic Framework

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/us-unveils-asia-pacific-trade-framework-but-questions-remain

"Unlike raditional trade blocs, there is no plan for IPEF members to negotiate tariffs and ease market access - a tool that has become increasingly unpalatable to US voters fearful of seeing homegrown manufacturing undermined.

The starting list of members in addition to the United States is Australia, Brunei, India, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, New Zealand, the Philippines, Singapore, South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam."

Who are the Outliers standing this refenced compound?


[4:42 pm, 23/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Wonder what is so good about ipef - when there's no tangible trade and investment benefits.


[4:44 pm, 23/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Rcep and cptpp make more economical sense for us - because they are solid trade and investment benefits.


[4:45 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Competition for belt and road initiative!?

[4:47 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: RCEP vs IPEF

[4:47 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: The sweet thing is YOU CAN JOIN BOTH CLUBS...

[4:48 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Benefits both ways

[4:49 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: " some things in life... The more you know, the more you don't want to know.... Simply put it, you see-through all things....?"


[4:52 pm, 23/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

I think we participate more like to make US stay engage in this region with some fringe benefits like green tech, cybersecurity tech etc.

But solid trade and investment benefits that give us prosperity, business, jobs and growing our economy - make more sense with rcep and cptpp.

Hence, China will continue to be the growing outsize economic influence in Asia Pacific - not US.


[4:53 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: "The global financial crisis has hastened this change.  As a member of WTO from 2001, Chinawill maximise its economic potential and become a powerhouse within two to three decades."

https://www.pmo.gov.sg/Newsroom/speech-minister-mentor-lee-kuan-yew-us-asean-business-councils-25th-anniversary-gala

[4:55 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Up and coming events - US trades delegates coming to Thailand 

https://youtu.be/BzUKMoqQ8i4


[4:56 pm, 23/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

China and HK trade with us is $140 billion annually compare to US $40 billion.

So how could US overtake China when US economy increasingly turn inwards.


[4:57 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: US to date has almost $600 billions in Singapore... Fyi

[4:58 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Foreign funds flowing to almost $4.7 trillions... Into Singapore...

[5:00 pm, 23/05/2022] +REACH: Minister of Home Affairs and Minister of Law, Mr K Shanmugam spoke to reporters at MHA’s headquarters today regarding the denied entry of the Indonesian Preacher into Singapore. It was reported that he was refused entry due to his extremist and segregationist teachings. 

We would love to hear your thoughts on this matter as well!

You may submit your responses here: https://go.gov.sg/reachqs-indopreacher. This form will close today at 7pm.

[5:00 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: By 2016, we already clocked over $2.0 trillion.

In the early say 2008, perhaps $1.2 trillion in flow.

Tomorrow? Trajectory towards $6.5 trillion before 2030?


[5:09 pm, 23/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

US investment in Singapore is about $244 billion.

This is the only positive development and one of the main reason why we continue to engage US.


[5:13 pm, 23/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

But US increasingly turning inward is a great concern to us.


[5:19 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: “China will inevitably catch up to the U.S. in absolute GDP. But its creativity may never match America’s, because its culture does not permit a free exchange and contest of ideas.”

- - Lee Kuan Yew

[5:20 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: “Technology is going to make (China’s) system of governance obsolete. By 2030, 70% or maybe 75% of their people will be in cities, small towns, big towns, mega big towns. They are going to have cell phones, Internet, satellite TV. They are going to be well-informed; they can organize themselves. You cannot govern them the way you are governing them now, where you just placate and monitor a few people, because the numbers will be so large.”

- - Lee Kuan Yew

[5:20 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Agree

[5:21 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Let them find out the hard way

[5:23 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: “I do not believe you can impose on other countries standards which are alien and totally disconnected with their past. So to ask China to become a democracy, when in its 5,000 years of recorded history it never counted heads; all rulers ruled by right of being the emperor, and if you disagree, you chop off heads, not count heads.”

- - Lee Kuan Yew

[5:24 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Well said

[5:24 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: “A people’s standard of living depends on a number of basic factors: first, the resources it has in relation to its population . . .; second, its level of technological competence and standards of industrial development; third, its educational and training standards; and fourth, the culture, the discipline and drive in the workforce.”

- - Lee Kuan Yew

[5:24 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘

[5:36 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: “A nation is great not by its size alone. It is the will, the cohesion, the stamina, the discipline of its people, and the quality of their leaders which ensure it an honorable place in history.”

- - Lee Kuan Yew

[5:37 pm, 23/05/2022] +Smiley face: Perhaps these Lee Kuan Yew's statements are valuable to keep in mind when things aren't smooth going... These days this world now!

[5:57 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Very wise and practical words from our nation founding PM

[6:00 pm, 23/05/2022] +REACH: For those who haven't share your views, you may submit your responses here:

 https://go.gov.sg/reachqs-indopreacher

This form will close today at 7pm.


[6:13 pm, 23/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

3 core values we will hold dearly:-

1. National Sovereignty, Territorial Integrity

2. Racial Harmony

3. Religious Harmony

We will not let anyone infringe our core values.


[6:14 pm, 23/05/2022] +Rama: Point two seems to be taken for granted.

[6:25 pm, 23/05/2022] +SL: https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/child-allegedly-sprays-another-eye-fire-extinguisher-east-coast-park-police-called

[6:25 pm, 23/05/2022] +SL: Fire extinguisher as a risk by itself.

[6:27 pm, 23/05/2022] +SL: If not properly secured and monitor in public area.


[6:44 pm, 23/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Threats mentioning 9/11 attacks made against Singapore by Indonesian preacher's supporters: Shanmugam.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/threats-911-attacks-against-singapore-indonesia-preacher-somad-supporters-2700596


[6:46 pm, 23/05/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,

⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰

Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan

[6:59 pm, 23/05/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,

We will be closing the chat for today.

Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan ๐Ÿ˜Š


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Friday, May 20, 2022

REACH 350 - What are your views on the Government's move to strengthen our economic partnerships with our neighbouring countries? Are you looking forward to having more transport links to Malaysia in the future?

(SK)

20 May 2022 (10am - 7pm)


REACH

[9:45 am, 20/05/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,

Welcome back! ๐Ÿ˜Š

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[10:00 am, 20/05/2022] +REACH: ๐Ÿ“ขTopic๐Ÿ“ข

On Tuesday (May 17), Singapore's Finance Minister Lawrence Wong embarked on a four-day working trip to Indonesia. Over the course of the trip, Mr Wong met with Indonesia's top government leaders to discuss strengthening bilateral ties, and reaffirm existing partnerships in areas spanning economic, security and people-to-people spheres. Mr Wong also spoke with Indonesian leaders about opportunities to step up mutual cooperation, including on climate change and sustainability, and explore new areas of growth in sustainable tourism and creative industry. 

On Tuesday (May 17), Singapore's Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan took a three-day work trip to Malaysia. Dr Balakrishnan called on Prime Minister Ismail Sabri Yaakob, was granted an audience with Sultan Nazrin Shah (the deputy king of Malaysia and Sultan of Perak), and met various government leaders. Speaking to the press, Dr Balakrishnan expressed hope that air and land connectivity would resume fully in the next few weeks and months. He also mentioned that the Johor Bahru-Singapore Rapid Transit System was well underway and could take passengers by the end of 2026, and that a new ferry service from Desaru to Tanah Merah was being explored.

๐Ÿ’ฌ What are your views on the Government's move to strengthen our economic partnerships with our neighbouring countries? Are you looking forward to having more transport links to Malaysia in the future?

On Thursday (May 19), Mr Wong  announced that Kendal Industrial Park in Central Java, which is a joint venture between Singapore and Indonesia, is on course for expansion, with plans to build an international container port by 2024. In his announcement, he said, "All of us can look forward to more growth, more prosperity despite the challenges we see in the external environment, so long as we can continue to build on this strong spirit of collaboration and partnership between Indonesia and Singapore."

๐Ÿ“Œ Finance Minister Lawrence Wong and Indonesian leaders explore new areas of growth

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/finance-minister-lawrence-wong-and-indonesian-leaders-explore-new-areas-of-growth

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/singapores-lawrence-wong-meets-indonesian-ministers-in-jakarta

๐Ÿ“Œ Singapore, Indonesia in discussions on port in Central Java

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-indonesia-plan-to-jointly-build-port-in-industrial-park-in-central-java

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/skills-training-job-matching-boost-investor-confidence-in-kendal-industrial-park-in-indonesia

๐Ÿ“Œ Singapore hopes full connectivity with Malaysia is restored: Vivian

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/singapore-hopes-full-connectivity-with-malaysia-will-be-restored-in-coming-months-vivian

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapores-foreign-minister-vivian-balakrishnan-calls-on-malaysia-pm-ismail-sabri-and-foreign-minister-in-putrajaya

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[10:10 am, 20/05/2022] +Uncle Law: As we all know Singapore being a small country with no natural resources, it is important for Singapore to continue maintain good bilateral relationship with neighbouring countries and countries around the world.

So much so, our defence ties with many militaries around the world, should one day we meet with threats, we may friends to rely on.

[10:39 am, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: 20 May, 2022 

"put that history books at home when you are talking to others, it will lighten the baggages of the past, starts with a clean sheet of planning paper...?" (ๅ›ข็ป“ๅฐฑๆ˜ฏๅŠ›้‡) 

- - annoymous 

Colonial times and into pre Singapore independence, the West Malaysia was our Hinterland of hope and growth.

Today Singapore, perhaps, our immediate Hinterland is Asean!

There is an even urgency to integrate Asean into one evolving economics engine with multitude of strengths and opportunities, putting aside self interest of yours or mine (each country) and see that billion hopes and millions of possibilities! Importantly, Asean must stay united as one entity with a consensus and consistent long term vision of common prosperity, equality and inclusively solving all pending challenges with it intra or inter relations. This itself is a work in progress and audacity for the betterment of South East Asians (ไธœๅ—ไบšไบบ)! 

              - - in progress - -


[1:32 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

1. Singapore has 2 geographical immediate neighbors - up north (Malaysia) and down south (Indonesia) - that we need to maintain a good and close relationship with.


2. Reasons being:-

a. Border Security and National Security is our top concern - and maintaining good relationship with our 2 immediate neighbors will ensure our peace and security.

b. Malaysia and Indonesia being one of our main food suppliers - will ensure our food security as we are a major net importers of food.

c. Malaysia is also one of our major source of labour supply and Indonesia also provide domestic workers to Singapore.


3. To foster good and close relationship, there are needs to ensure:-

a. Mutual Economic Benefits - whereby mutual prosperity will cement our mutual stake - and thus less likely to provoke friction and tension among our 2 immediate neighbor

b. Internal security, fighting crime, anti-terrorism collaboration and cooperation between Singapore and Malaysia, Military exercise between Singapore and Indonesia, anti-terrorism collaboration - are means to foster confidence building, friendship and mutual trust.

c. Many cordial G-to-G, B-to-B, P-to-P engagement, relationship at all level - will prevent any misunderstanding, and if any differences will not magnified - from developing. 

Differences can be resolved by give-and-take conflict resolution - without letting relationship turn sour.


4. Having say so, maintaining a good relationship with another neighbor further up North - Brunei will also be vital in ensuring our National Security - because Brunei can play a mediator role for us should any racial or religious undertone turn sour.

Brunei, a small Nation like us - has always been friendly and forge good understanding with us - since Independence.


5. At a larger context, maintain a good, tight collective ASEAN unity to advance our interest in the region - as geopolitical relationship turn increasingly challenging. 

ASEAN as a bloc with one voice - will help to safeguard our collective interest while dealing with the 2 Superpowers - which are our 2 vital Big Powers.


[1:48 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Do masks cause lower oxygen levels while we breathe in more  carbon dioxide?

Answer - NO. Argument not based on science.

Measures with oximeter - while wearing mask - oxygen level did not drop.

https://wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/masks-oxygen-levels


[1:51 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Research shows that many of the microplastics in our bodies come from the air we breathe – not just from drinking bottled water or eating fish from polluted oceans. 

Due to their small size, microplastics can be inhaled and may induce a wide range of diseases including respiratory and cardiovascular diseases, as well as cancer.

N95, reusable cloth masks block microplastics.

Are you breathing plastic air at home? Here’s how microplastics are polluting our lungs.             

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/microplastic-pollution-in-air-pollutes-our-lungs


[1:53 pm, 20/05/2022] +Caleb: N05 and surgical mask are made of plastic right?


[1:53 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Argument that mask reduce oxygen saturation, breathe in carbon dioxide etc - come from anti-vaxx, anti-mask groups from US.


[1:54 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Surgical mask yes.

N95 is the most effective against microplastics follow by reusable cloth masks issue by our government.


[1:55 pm, 20/05/2022] +SL: Material Composition

• Straps – Thermoplastic Elastomer

• Nose Clip – Aluminum

• Nose foam - Polyurethane

• Filter – Polypropylene

• Shell – Polyester

• Coverweb - Polyester


[1:58 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Even when we walk in the park with greeneries we breathe in oxygen as well as carbon dioxide.


[2:09 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: TSMC may build multibillion-dollar chip plant in Singapore: WSJ

https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/tsmc-may-build-multibillion-dollar-chip-plant-in-singapore-wsj

[2:13 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: 19 May, 2022 

"Coexist or Conflict?"

"Stability is the key to opportunities...!" 

Prologue :

World Bank has posted China GDP outlook at 4.4% into Q4-2022.

What this 4.4% means is that China is at a TIPPING POINT into its domestic RECESSION.

Simply put it, China has enjoyed double digits annual GDP growth since entered WTO, this globalised world. Will there be changes and or succession at the top administration of China? 

Today forecast of 4.4% is NOT SUSTAINABLE for the entire 1.3 billion mouths that is lives & livelihoods issues, the possible uprising of SOCIAL INEQUALITIES and follows by UNREST within China! As for the outside world, a major knee jerking effects on all foods, goods, and services to the down swings of recession and into a depressionary global economics? Will it happen? 

Main:

Perhaps, the induction of Finland + Sweden into  NATO is an indicator of the weakening influences and threats of the Russians. China is known an ally of the Russians, it is like taking a STONE and KILLING TWO BIRDS simultaneously! The Ukraine war will be shorten within days towards ceased fire and a peace agreement will be drafted to include Eastern part of Ukraine to Russia and the Western part of include Kiev and Karkiev remains  the control of the Ukrainians. Perhaps, the existentially long and meandering Dnieper river will be the natural demarcation between Russia and Ukraine? 

'In a war, things changed hands, any less is not a war; it is a business deal!"

What Putin gets?

Part of Ukraine, a way to deescalate his failed attempts, the continuation of oil & gas supplies to the European markets, controls of Wheat, free access to seaport and Black sea via the Turkish waterway and importantly a face saving chance for him and a bad boy image too ! Limited sea routes access up north of the nordic sea and exposures to thousand of km of natural open border with Finland. How about the future of North Pole sea roures and the massive unexplored natural resources? 

What US gets?

Immediate reinstatement of the 1st position, the supreme global leader! 

Two casualties of this war is Russia follows by China. In simple sense, no more leveraging (buddy buddy) between the two to counter the US! This hidden frictions between the Chinese and the Russians will remain to be seen and the future of hatred, betrayal and revenge of this two, only time will tell...? 

How about Israel, the Middle East nations including Iran and Syria assuming the African continent is free from trouble? What's the impact and ripples to each of these nation? 

Therefore this reset of the global leadership is pretty much clearly displayed aloud to all nations that the ONLY threat left is perhaps, CHINA! The next possible transiting hot War region of conflict shall be Taiwan, into the South China Sea and Asean as an economics entity? 

This is a WAR IN PROGRESS that's what the Americans and the Chinese would tell the village of nations in secrecy for nothing is over until it is all over...!

[2:31 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: 20 May, 2022

"The Poker Cards of Asean And Asia"

CHINA FRIENDLY:

Myanmar 

Cambodia 

Laos 

Vietnam? 

Thailand 

Brunei? 

US FRIENDLY OR BOTH COUNTRIES :

Philippines 

Indonesia 

Singapore 

Malaysia? 

FAR EAST NATIONS :

Japan  - US friendly 

South Korea - US friendly 

North Korea -  China friendly 

SOUTH ASIA:

India - US friendly? 

Bangladesh - China friendly 

Sri Lanka - time will tell


[2:42 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: https://www.globaldefensecorp.com/2020/04/26/the-usaf-relocates-b-52-and-b-2-stealth-bombers-from-guam-to-usa/                                                                                                                      US relocates stealth bombers from Guam to USA.


[2:43 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: An informative and good video ..

It measure heartbeat and volume of air intake.

Perhaps future improved oximeter should also differential oxygen from any presence of carbon dioxide especially when people are masked up to an hour or longer? What's the exposure to carbon dioxide when one breathes with mask on?


[2:43 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

US has withdrawn all their strategic nuclear bombers (including stealth bombers) from Guam.

China DF-26 IRBM and NKorea IRBM indeed is a real threat to Guam.


[2:47 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

"Ukrainians using e-bikes mounted with missiles to blow up Russian tanks".

E-bikes quietly used by many armies to stealthily and quickly bring troops into position to lay ambush.

 https://sg.yahoo.com/news/ukrainians-e-bikes-mounted-missiles-blow-up-russian-tanks-175221749.html#:~:text=The%20Independent-,Ukrainians%20using%20e%2Dbikes%20mounted%20with%20missiles%20to%20blow%20up%20Russian%20tanks,-Connor%20Parker


[2:47 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: A good point... Hi Danny!

These days no where on earth is a safe place?

Perhaps the submarines are the hidden launch pad for missiles of all capabilities, it cruises closer to one's enemy  doorsteps?

[2:48 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: Thinking soldiers, using what you have to the FULLEST!


[2:50 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

No safe place yes.

But in a must strike - will need alot of intelligence and assessment - to ensure we do not suffer collateral damage.

I believe our military planner must have thought very hard on it.

The above information is for our military planner to take note with contingency built in.


[2:52 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/05/04/what-is-russia-s-poseidon-nuclear-drone-and-could-it-wipe-out-the-uk-in-a-radioactive-tsun

This thing goes round and round under water, its self generated nuclear power drone... Like an eveready battery doll!


[2:53 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Minimally our squadron of F35s must be able to scramble within 15 minutes when detected a ballistic missiles are launched and our mid air refuel tanker get all our ground crew on board within the 15 minutes.

Else F35s can't reach our shores without mid-air refuel.


[2:57 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Guam is protected by thaad anti-missile batteries.

But no guarantee it can shoot all intruding missiles down. Especially if the missiles overwhelm the anti-missile system.

But will help to buy us time for our whole F35s and mid air refuel tanker to scramble within 15 minutes to escape the bombardment.


[3:02 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: For Taiwan, is 8 to 10 minutes to intervene incoming missiles.

[3:03 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.heritage.org/asia/report/the-us-japan-semiconductor-agreement-keeping-the-managedtrade-agenda#:~:text=The%201986%20U.S.%2DJapan%20semiconductor,manufacturers%2C%20and%20consumers%20are%20hurt.


[3:04 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Taiwan no chance to evacuate the armour.

It take weeks to do evacuation.


[3:04 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Chang#:~:text=He%20is%20the%20founder%2C%20as,estimated%20at%20US%242.8%20billion.

Watch that INTEL comes 2025!

[3:06 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: 8 to 10 minutes for their F16 to fight it out whether is enemy aircraft or else things... Tough Taiwanese pilots these days!

[3:09 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: 4CISR, Taiwan present defence protocol, version 1.0

Version 2.0 is reserved solely for the US army use.

Raytheon. DARPA and Israel efforts, this 4CISR, air, sea and land coverages like a casted net?

[3:20 pm, 20/05/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors

We’d love to hear more from you on today's topic ๐Ÿ˜Š

We have had good feedback and hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!

Megan


[3:39 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

One way is to make Guam our "warm site" not a "hot site" (permanent).

Station when situation warrant, maintain skeleton when operation requirements not needed.


[3:49 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/indonesia-lifts-palm-oil-export-ban-may-23-jokowi-2693216?cid=internal_sharetool_androidphone_19052022_cna


[3:50 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Hope the world get relief from lifting the palm oil ban.

Else food price soaring like crazy.


[3:52 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://youtu.be/08xovcz1qrA

[3:54 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://youtu.be/DF4D2koQaTM

[3:54 pm, 20/05/2022] +Rama: Afraid of DF-21 from china!?

[3:55 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://youtu.be/OlSsbCeWqa0

[3:58 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Mr Rama,

How about relocating military assets from Diego Garcia?

The Chinese long range DFs or the North Korea latest will reach Diego Garcia.

It is a much important base for the US. It is such a secretive island?

Guam is like Chinatown? 

Diego Garcia is like Shenton way?

[4:00 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: Perhaps there is a strategic military meaning behind this Guam movement of resources?

[4:01 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2021/10/20/b-1b-bombers-return-to-diego-garcia-island-base-after-15-years/

[4:01 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: The U.S. military uses Diego Garcia as a strategic point for launching operations in the Indo-Pacific...

[4:03 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: Lately, the Marshall Islands is a busy place...It is also near to Guam too, just in case this Marshall falls into other people interest?

[4:04 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://youtu.be/RD7WY1qXNzE

[4:05 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: Palau Islands is friendly towards the US.

[4:07 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: Csn we see that this word Indo Pacific means...

INDONESIA as the baseline, that's the bottoms up boundary of US interest in our region?


[4:08 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Df21 only have about 1,500 km range - cannot hit Guam.

Guam to China about 4,700 km.

Only df26 can hit Guam as it range about 5,000km - dubbed "Guam killer".

China have 50 - 200 df26.

No way Guam thaad anti-missile batteries can take it all down.


[4:10 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Danny,

These days, nany spies are spying Hainan area because the Chinese Subs base is there... In and out from there...

Vietnam Cahn Rahm Bay and Philippines Subic Bay are strategic ports for the US! Must get it!

[4:11 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: The hunt for many "Red Octobers" has begun...


[4:11 pm, 20/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Not suggesting China and US to fight.

But we need to safeguard our interest.


[4:12 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: The whole fun is CAT & MICE game like the cartoon... Tom & Jerry!

[4:14 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: AUKUS the top tie leadership follows by

QUAD

Indo Pacific

Asean

[4:16 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: One sure thing, Mitsubishi Submarine Propulsion system is one of the three best, this worldly money can buy! Quiet ๐Ÿคซ

This system is as quiet like a Lexus inside out!

[4:18 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/03/04/us-navy-mine-countermeasures/

[4:19 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_E-2_Hawkeye

Submarines enemy E2D!

[4:19 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: Not for sale, fyi!

[4:22 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: "When the cat not around,  comes the mouse" (็Œซไธๅœจ,่€้ผ ๆžๆ€ช!)

[4:26 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: G-7 to agree more than $26 billion in short-term aid for Ukraine

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/g-7-to-agree-more-than-26-billion-in-short-term-aid-for-ukraine

"no free lunch...?"

[4:29 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: Palm oil rallies over 3% as Indonesia announces domestic sales policy

https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/palm-oil-rallies-over-3-as-indonesia-announces-domestic-sales-policy

[4:32 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: The mandarins who support the ministers

https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/the-mandarins-who-support-the-ministers

"Then Deputy Prime Minister Goh Keng Swee and Finance Minister Hon Sui Sen wanted to stay in Paya Lebar; but Mr Howe, who chaired a high-level multi-agency committee in 1975 on the issue, came out strongly in favour of building a new airport in Changi.

Mr Howe by then was the head of the civil service, and believed that a new airport would help Singapore exploit its position at the heart of a growing South-east Asia. He was so convinced of the growth potential of aviation, he told planners to make room for not just two, but six runways in future.

Fast forward to today. By the 2030s, a fifth terminal will be built - "impressive, but still short of Howe's ambition by one", according to a new book on Mr Howe and his fellow pioneering civil servants."

[5:04 pm, 20/05/2022] +Rama: Time, money and logistics will be important but the Chinese will have the last laugh seeing the Yankees panic!

[5:05 pm, 20/05/2022] +Rama: Yes

[5:05 pm, 20/05/2022] +Rama: We had the E2C now on display at rsaf Air museum.

[6:34 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.mrcmekong.org/about/mekong-basin/geography/#:~:text=The%20Mekong%20River%20is%20the,large%20delta%20into%20the%20sea.

https://www.mfa.gov.sg/SINGAPORES-FOREIGN-POLICY/Key-Issues/Water-Agreements

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/himalayas-melting-climate-change/#:~:text=The%20Himalayan%20glaciers%20play%20a,%2C%20energy%2C%20or%20other%20purposes.

https://www.flaska.eu/water-structuring/pioneers-of-water-research/dr-masaru-emoto

[6:45 pm, 20/05/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,

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Megan

[6:57 pm, 20/05/2022] +Smiley face: 20 May, 2022

To: Our Dintinguished Leaders And All Honorable Members 

"Wheel Of Fortune Or Misfortune?"

"Your certain wants may not always be what others need...?" 

- - annoymous 

Foremost, in life, certain things have the natural power in dividing people and redistribute resources solely because of lacking one simple thing that is Water(ๆฐด)! Perspectively, within the geography of South East Asia, there is a common sea (salt water) which all along has been a conflict of who's owning it and more than one past owners. 

Secondly, water is a critical resource, besides oil, to all growing and living things. The Brahmaputra, the Ganges, the Ayeyarwady river, the Tibetan highlands, the Mekong River flows all flow from the Himalayas down to Afghanistan, Pakistan, China, India, Bhutan. Nepal, Blangadash, Cambodia, Myanmar Thailand, Vietnam and Laos! It has been like this for almost 50 millions  years - the Everest ! Southeast Asia, the Mekong river, dated 17 millions years and is the longest river stretches 4,900km flows into five Asean countries. This critical basin of drinking and living water should it be taken away or disappear will result in billions of human in disparity, into the path of disputes and the eventual hot wars! How to coexist with one and other? One simple ecological issue will evolve into many social, political and economics uncertainties! A simple answer, no choice!

On the basis of strategic resource, same argument can also be applied to the Russia-Ukraine conflict. What if the Russians decide to turn-off or to ration the oil & gas supplies ? Will the entire Europe continent chocks up, goes havoc or in total chaos? Will such scenario be played in this end game theory (put aside the further fear of a nuclear threat theory) ? 

Coming back to this simple water issue, what's if certain nations decide to RATION the drinkable water flow during dry seasons (control water dams) or overflow during wet seasons until flooded (open water dams) or turn-off (close water dams) this 'free for all' flowing Himalayan water for the reason of climate changes? What other nations will do and react, MAKE rain happens? How would these downstream nations react or on the verge of hot wars with one another? Possibility, it can be a 'natural' disaster in making? 

Seriously speaking, you can forget about the visions 4.0 of a new digital and electric world of all sorts, these things need water too! 

This water, so plain yet so powerful and a life threatening issue! Sooner your neighbors will tell you, we need water more than else than spinning that wheel of fortune? The next time, ooze it and don't chock on that cup of drinkable water when your neighbors or buddies tell you they are short of water? 

“We forget that the water cycle and the life cycle are one.” 

- - Jacques Yves Cousteau 

"no water, no talk...?" 

- - annoymous 

https://www.mrcmekong.org/about/mekong-basin/geography/#:~:text=The%20Mekong%20River%20is%20the,large%20delta%20into%20the%20sea.

https://www.mfa.gov.sg/SINGAPORES-FOREIGN-POLICY/Key-Issues/Water-Agreements

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/himalayas-melting-climate-change/#:~:text=The%20Himalayan%20glaciers%20play%20a,%2C%20energy%2C%20or%20other%20purposes.

https://www.flaska.eu/water-structuring/pioneers-of-water-research/dr-masaru-emoto

Afterwords:

"put that history books at home when you are talking to others, it will lighten the baggages of the past, starts with a clean sheet of planning paper...?" (ๅ›ข็ป“ๅฐฑๆ˜ฏๅŠ›้‡) 

- - annoymous 

Colonial times and into pre Singapore independence, the West Malaysia was our Hinterland of hope and growth.

Today Singapore, perhaps, our immediate Hinterland is Asean!

There is an even urgency to integrate Asean into one evolving economics engine with multitude of strengths and opportunities, putting aside self interest of yours or mine (each country) and see that billion hopes and millions of possibilities! Importantly, Asean must stay united as one entity with a consensus and consistent long term vision of common prosperity, equality and inclusively solving all pending challenges with it intra or inter relations. This itself is a work in progress and audacity for the betterment of South East Asians (ไธœๅ—ไบšไบบ)! 

An old story:

"In the clan's hall, there sat an established towkay seeping his Chinese tea with his clansmen and started drawing the entire stretch of Orchard as once upon in time was his ancestor's property and now claiming his, fortunately this Orchard lands became a flourish and busy road?"

Is this a wishful thought or is it existentially a valid and acceptable story? 

              - - END - -

[7:00 pm, 20/05/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,

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Wednesday, May 18, 2022

REACH 349 - How concerned are you with the emergence of the new Omicron sub- variants in Singapore? How can we as a community continue to remain vigilant in the fight against COVID-19?

(SK)

18 May 2022 (10am - 7pm)


REACH

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[10:00 am, 18/05/2022] +REACH: ๐Ÿ“ข Topic ๐Ÿ“ข

 Singapore has detected its first local cases of the new Omicron sub-variants that are driving a fresh increase in Covid-19 numbers all over the world.

On Sunday night (May 15), the Ministry of Health (MOH) said it found two cases of the BA.4 variant and one case of the BA.5 variant through active surveillance.

๐Ÿ’ฌ How concerned are you with the emergence of the new Omicron sub- variants in Singapore? How can we as a community continue to remain vigilant in the fight against COVID-19?

The cases were first detected via polymerase chain reaction tests and confirmed through whole genome sequencing.

All three were either asymptomatic or had mild symptoms, and did not require hospitalisation. They were fully vaccinated and had received their booster doses.

Omicron has spread rapidly and this has given it many opportunities to mutate and also acquire specific mutations of its own.

Some of these sub-variants include BA.1, BA.2, BA.3, BA.4 and BA.5.

There have been sub-variants of earlier versions of the virus, such as the Delta variant. However, Omicron has overtaken these, most likely due to its increased transmissibility.

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผhttps://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/singapore-detects-first-three-local-cases-of-new-omicron-sub-variants

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿผ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/no-cause-for-undue-alarm-even-as-new-omicron-sub-variants-ba4-and-ba5-are-detected-in-spore-experts?utm_medium=social&utm_source=telegram&utm_campaign=sttg

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[10:31 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3172908/coronavirus-minister-says-singapore-wont-tighten-curbs-if

[10:33 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Breakthrough Rules :

ICU occupancy number within double digits range 

Daily Death number

5 and below

[10:36 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: First line of indicator :

Hospitalisation numbers below 300

Number of days hospitalised 14 days or less, 80% of these recovered patients

[10:38 am, 18/05/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors

We’d love to hear more from you on today's topic ๐Ÿ˜Š

We have had good feedback and hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!

Megan

[10:38 am, 18/05/2022] +X@niceAfcai: Since the smm has been established for 2yr plus. Hopefully, people will follow the smm to protect oneself n also their loves ones.

[10:39 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Assuming out of 300 hospitalised, 0.3% death rate will be one daily death.

Perhaps are these medical metrics sensible indicator as we travel and live with covid?

[10:40 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: I think we have seen worse from the past 2 yrs.

I also think gov shouldn't be overly concern or take the harsh measures to curb the virus.

We should let nature take its course, and ramp up our medical facilities instead.

[10:41 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: COVID-19 should be eventually be treated like a seasonal flu and be look after my our nearby GPs instead

[10:41 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: *by

[10:42 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Also there shouldn't be strict restriction for patients tested positive, such as allowing them to buy food or daily necessities

[10:42 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Otherwise you are correct, Hi Uncle Law..

Unless this bug turns virulent like 3% death rates?

[10:42 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: But of course as much as possible, they should be at home resting and avoid mingling with the public

[10:43 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Hihi

[10:43 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Correct!

[10:43 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Self checks the best check!

[10:43 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Moving fwd, with past experiences, there isn't a need for us to be so restrictive, hence making it stressful for everyone.

[10:44 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: This way, the medical facilities won't be overwhelmed

[10:44 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: One more stress, coming....

[10:44 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: The staffs and doctors can really 'breathe' properly

[10:44 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/us-hopes-india-to-reconsider-wheat-export-ban/article65421864.ece

Just when you think cooking oil, now the ingredient too, this Wheat!

[10:46 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Correct!

Just like American Football, they are the Defense team, often hammered left snd right, upside down!

Our doctors, nurses and all supporting front line personnels!

[10:47 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Gov should do this for everyone.

Once positive, do a tele art to prove one self so that is official, and employer can be notified. This number of days of rest can be deducted from the annual MC quota. No MC is needed.

Patient can go out to buy food or daily necessities without restrictions. But as much as one should exercise responsibility by minimising contact and exposure.

Continue to rest at home till art show negative or resume work after 3 days.

This way our workforce can continue to function and move fwd the economy.

[10:53 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Those feeling more sick, shd go to their nearest GP and seek medical attention.

[10:53 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Clinic will upload their test results online

[10:54 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Uncle Law, Good thinking!

Let's do a comparative economics analysis, workforce and output.

[10:55 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: http://moit.gov.vn/en/news/industry-and-trade/vietnam-s-exports-in-q1-up-12.9-percent.html

[10:56 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: ๐Ÿ‘

[10:56 am, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: I just feel we shouldn't feel so uptight any more. It's been 2 yrs. All the stresses penned up over the 2 yrs.

[10:57 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: Please let the kids take off their masks at school..... ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿ™

[10:58 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: They have rarely seen each others' faces for over 2 years. Very bad for their emotional development and bonding.

[10:59 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Summary :

Vietnam coming out of Covid with stellar export results. There are a few attributes to this robust rebounce if its export economies.

1) 50+ million  recovered and ready workforce

2) value added manufacturing from China

3) Vietnam is enjoying a big advantage, this resetting of contract manufacturing

4) European and US businesses are  deepening their presence in Vietnam

[11:00 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://inf.news/ne/economy/0841fde12ba2ee870808d3b1181f1314.html

Following the hot money goes...

"in search of STABILITY and OPPORTUNITIES..."

- -  annoymous

[11:02 am, 18/05/2022] +Vivian: Please let your kids take off his/her mask at school

[11:03 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: School says Kid must wear their masks all the time except when drinking or eating.... even outside.

[11:03 am, 18/05/2022] +Vivian: Do not be complacent. My office just had a case of covid. It's still there...

[11:03 am, 18/05/2022] +Vivian: I support this

[11:03 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: Yes I know many who have/get Covid, but they are ok after a few days.... it's life. We can't bubble wrap the kids.

[11:03 am, 18/05/2022] +Vivian: It's good habit

[11:04 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: It's terrible for their emotional development, which seems more important.

[11:04 am, 18/05/2022] +Vivian: Some have quite severe post covid... I would rather my love ones never contact covid at all...

[11:05 am, 18/05/2022] +Vivian: How emotional damage can it be by wearing mask?

[11:05 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: me too, no one wants covid. How many kids get severe covid?

[11:05 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: not seeing their friends faces, smiles etc. Very bad.

[11:05 am, 18/05/2022] +Vivian: It's better be safe than sorry

[11:05 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: Better to be alive than dead.

[11:05 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: So maybe never leave the house?

[11:06 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: i'm very sorry that the kids can't see each other smiling.

[11:06 am, 18/05/2022] +Vivian: Do u know Japanese wear masks way before covid...

[11:07 am, 18/05/2022] +Vivian: They wear masks and leave home too

[11:07 am, 18/05/2022] +Ken Loh: Taiwanese as well

[11:07 am, 18/05/2022] +Vivian: Maybe govt should remove but I will still encourage to wear a mask.

[11:08 am, 18/05/2022] +Vivian: Emotionally damage by wearing mask.. interesting

[11:08 am, 18/05/2022] +Caleb: But not all the time right?

[11:10 am, 18/05/2022] +Vivian: U said so yourself it's not every time

[11:16 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: what isn't everytime?

[11:17 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: visual communication is very important for emotional development yes

[11:17 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: yes, when ill.

[11:19 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Maybe during language lessons, mask off?

[11:20 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: they pull it down to speak only, which is rare

[11:20 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Let's seek for stability at the same time abit of opportunities, this VUCA times?

[11:21 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Entire language lesson, perhaps there is a need to unmask?

Language is about speech, communicating and writing

[11:23 am, 18/05/2022] +BL: teacher takes off masks, but kid just pull down if they are the one speaking

[11:31 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Perhaps, this is an airborne bug. What's sciences say about airborne viruses?

[11:32 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: These airborne bugs are in nano sizes... Very short lift floating lifespan too

[11:33 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Proximity and ventilation are two lines of defense for human or animals

[11:37 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Han Rosling

[11:52 am, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.gapminder.org/fw/world-health-chart/whc2019/

This chart measures

Health vs Sick

Rich vs Poor

Just in case, you are feeling low and down... 

Look for Singapore, this colorful dotted chart, the little RED dot (hint: upper most right corner)

Is it the people or was it the policies or many combinations of tangibles with the intangibles that is today - Singapore?


[0:28 pm, 18/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: https://www.asiaone.com/world/coronavirus-may-be-linked-cases-severe-hepatitis-children


[0:30 pm, 18/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/north-korean-planes-pick-medical-supplies-china-reports-2689641                                                                                                                                            1.48 million with high fever in N Korea.


[0:37 pm, 18/05/2022] +~typing.......: My six year old's teacher asked the class to do self-portraits in art and three quarters of the class drew themselves wearing masks.  I think that's terrible.

Apparently, young kids' speech and pronunciation is much worse than it should be because of the muffing effect of masks impacting both their own speech and the speech that kids hear (and copy) from teachers and class mates.

In all my kids (7, 6 and 3) classes about 50% of the class has already had Covid.    Think we need to consider if primary school kids wearing masks is now causing more harm than good.

[0:47 pm, 18/05/2022] +BL: Yes exactly. My kid's speech is also affected. Why is it ok for Adults not to wear masks in the office, but kids have to at school, and during recess?

[0:49 pm, 18/05/2022] +BL: 'maybe' 'if it were true' etc etc - seems very unfounded and without any actual evidence. Easy to speculate about possible damaging effects in a tiny number of cases, but we are faced with real damaging effects on every single child right now.

[0:52 pm, 18/05/2022] +BL: Circling words can be fun! ๐Ÿ˜

[0:53 pm, 18/05/2022] +BL: With the rise in Dengue are we making all the kids wear long trousers and long sleeve shirts to reduce the chance of mosquito bites?

[1:08 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://hms.harvard.edu/news/scent-human

[1:11 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Is it true that a human body temperature will attract mozzie bites?

Is it also true that wearing darker colored Clothings will attract hungry mozzies?

Or the hotter the weather is and the greater one's perspire will attract mozzies?

True or okd wife's tales?

[1:13 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: One sure thing is YOUR IMMUNITY MATTERS MOST to fight away diseases from Cancer to Dengue!

The older one gets, the lowered will be her or his immunity against a spectrum of illnesses or diseases.

[1:14 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Stress, Anger and Anxiety are enemies to immunity of the human body!


[1:32 pm, 18/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

1. My views are :-

a. Currently, we have relaxed many measures that have bolster our Economy :-

i. All mark chairs and tables in eateries are removed - and many can dine as per pre-pandemic state.

ii. Open areas for events - has again allowed open stalls to operate, pasar malam to resume operation, buffet to resume business, nightlife to resume business.

iii. Welcoming overseas travellers without quarantine - see trickling of foreign tourists.

However, still did not see noticeable tourists throng our areas yet.


2. We are very happy to see "normal lives" coming back - that help to boost our Economy, business and jobs.


3. However, my family members, extended families and my close friends - are of the opinion that "putting mask on" when we go outside - will be essential and our "last line of defence" --- despite the fact that almost everyone are protected by full vaccination with booster.

We don't want to have a case whereby one of them got infected with covid - and the rest have to quarantine at home.


4. In fact, whether indoor or outdoor, as long as I step out of my home - I put my mask on - including doing jogging or brisk walk for 5 km - I will still put on my mask - and will not change my routine.


5. My close friend comments :-

Version 4 and 5 (of Omicron variants) are here. What's the hurry to remove masks? ๐Ÿค”

My response: Exactly.

Not like wearing mask we will suffocate or like end of the world.


6. Our position are consistent and clear:-

From zero day until now - "Unless and until the covid pandemic is declared officially over (either the covid is subdue and not life threatening or effectively block" - by WHO &/or by our Government" - our position is still put on the mask when in public - as our "last line of defence".


[1:32 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: One for the road ahead....

Cooking oil banned

Wheat banned

What if Vietnam and or Thailand ban RICE export? Climate change or harvest issues, etc 

Competing goods, complimentary goods so on 

This VUCA world now!

[1:38 pm, 18/05/2022] +Uncle Law: Our country stockpile has sufficient for the population

[1:41 pm, 18/05/2022] +~RH: I agree. 

Consider this a LULL period. 

With Variants 4 & 5 now here, and lack of more info, we shd still remain vigilant and be more prepared for worse. 

Also, we shd still keep our TT app / tokens - treat it like a 'war siren', in the event tt this needs to be activated again.  Gov shd continue to remind everyone to hold on to these. 

Gov to continue to stay vigilant, be better prepared for any worse case scenarios tt may happen. 

Our frontline fighters r now the hospital & supppport staff. Need to be on our lookout & prepared for worse,  (like our army soldiers get practice in) ...  To fight against the unseen (virus) .

[1:45 pm, 18/05/2022] +~RH: That said,  

* Food Security is also important. 

We shd continue our efforts to try to grow our own essentials. 

Meeting 30% is still sth.  In times of crisis,  it just means we go lean,  tighten our belts,  and learn to survive.  But in the very least,  we dun starve. 

* Protect our shores - climate change is very real. 

Altho geographically (& historically)  our tiny island is sheltered from the elements in some way, the Winds of Change are moving constantly. 

What is today may not be the same tmr. 

We shd also continue w our efforts to protect our vulnerable shores at this point.

[1:47 pm, 18/05/2022] +~RH: ๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿปpersonally,  I agree. We shd also continue to stay socially responsible  to safeguard ourselves & our loved ones.

[1:59 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: Can our alternative source of rice imports compensate for this!?

[2:06 pm, 18/05/2022] +BL: I'm not against voluntary mask wearing and wear my mask as required and don’t object. Now that we don't need a mask on in the office. I do think kids should have the option to remove their masks in class,just as adults can in the office. And especially when they are outside at recess.


[2:24 pm, 18/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Satellite images ‘suggest China is practising missile strikes on targets in Taiwan and Guam’.

Goodness. Singapore is signing with US to base one of our air contingent F35s in Guam.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3177538/satellite-images-suggest-china-practising-missile-strikes


[2:24 pm, 18/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Do PLA drills reveal China strategy to deny military help for Taiwan?

Observers see a pattern in recent exercises suggesting Beijing is testing its ability to restrict other countries’ access to the island

‘Anti-access and area denial’ strategy aims to deter, delay and prevent external forces from occupying or crossing an area of land, sea or air

SCMP

Kristin Huang

Published: 6:00am, 15 May, 2022

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1. It is very obvious that China will be adopting A2/AD to subdue Taiwan - a more logical and less dangerous strategy in a bit to take over Taiwan.


2. Because :-

a. Direct military invasion by landing - will suffer very high casaulties - because beach landings will be a target for arty bombings, mining, aerial bombings, ambush from the coastal lines, need massive number of landing ships to transport big number of troops to land plus many other death traps.

b. Landing troops need to be sizeable - exceeding 100,000 to make invasion possible. A massive logistic difficulties.

c. Supply lines to feed the landing troops, provide ammos etc - will be a nightmare.

d. Even with troops landed on the main island - it will face direct conventional force attack - if they are able to fortified their defence - and survive the massive missile and arty bombardment to soften the ground before landing.

e. Hence direct invasion by troop landing is a military nightmare - and not easy to win outright. 

It will be more nightmarish - compare to Russia land invasion into Ukraine by land.


3. Hence, 9-dash line that surround the Southern sea route - is to prevent outside reinforcement coming through the sea route - as offshore island with anti-air and anti-ship missile - is to achieve A2/AD - by stopping aircraft carrier - from bringing their naval airforce within range less than 2,000 km to the China mainland and to Taiwan.


4. China mainland various military bases - will be a continuous supply line of ammo, food and troops as well as a formidable A2/AD bases to prevent foreign airforce and navy assistance to Taiwan.


5. Massive buildup of navy ships exceeding US fleet - will be effective in sea blockade from the North (Japan and SKorea base), from the East (Guam base) and from the South (Philipine base) - byproviding anti-air missile cover as well as anti-ship cover.

As navy ships will be big enough to store ammo and food supply - the sea and air blockade can go on for months to prevent foreign intervention, food and logistics supply to Taiwan.


6. Whether Taiwan will subcuumb to a long term naval blockade will depends on the following conditions:-

a. Does Taiwan produce enough food, water, power etc to sustain their population lives in months of blockade.

b. Does Taiwan has sufficient financial strength to keep their economy going, business going, jobs going and social cohesion - that will not trigger domestic unrest.

c. Foreign Countries pressure similar to Russia sanction eg. how effective is financial sanctions to impact China Economy and finances,  direct military intervention on China, UN pressure etc.

d. Taiwan military response to break the naval blockade - eg. submarine attack on China naval ships, sea mine, missile attacks on the navy ships and fighter planes etc.


7. Having say so, military action --- is never an easy or sure win approach to reunify Taiwan.

Suntze Art of War - classify military action is the lowest form of strategy to achieve a political objective.

The highest and best form of strategy to achieve a political objective - is to win by Heart, not Might.

(Eg. so many Countries want to join EU and NATO willingly - not because of military coercion, not because of economic suppression, not because of political intimidation ---- but because these Countries want to join willingly due to :-

a. They share the mutual economic benefits, business, investment, jobs, travel etc.

b. Governance system that provide people with freedom, ability to establish people's aspiration, social interaction, harmony.


[2:52 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Perhaps Subic Bay to the US, find another location for China like Central Vesayas region. Afterall the Philippines is surrounded with sea and ocean. 

Coexist and not conflict. This decouple and reset global political games! 

Asean (9+1) as an economics contingent will benefit into 2040, only if leaders could see this larger agendas.

[2:54 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Ukrainian troops evacuate from Mariupol, ceding control to Russia

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/ukrainian-force-begins-evacuating-from-last-mariupol-stronghold



Why Ukrainians army gave up  to the Russians?

Perhaps a chance to cease fire

 and onto the peace talk ๐Ÿค”



One long river divides east and west Ukraine... A strategic natural border like North and South Korea and once famous the Berlin Wall.

[2:54 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnieper

[2:55 pm, 18/05/2022] +BL: Russia put all its focus on Mariupol, and Ukraine was overwhelmed. Little choice but to surrender. I suspect Ukraine will come back fighting later.

[2:55 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: In life, you loose some and win some..trade horses 

Sweden + Finland join NATO? 

Mariupol to tge Russians?

[2:57 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Biden did expressed hus concern of PUSHING Putin up that corner wall...

Putin needs a breather, fsce saving and a platform to deescalate his battled initiatives to no good endings.

[2:59 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Perhaps a shorten war?

[3:03 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Next chapter of the global politics may well be positioned at the South China Sea...

For the world matters always evolves and in constant variabilities.

Asean, watch this Sea , next in play?

[3:30 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: 18 May, 2022 

"Chipped or Chip In?" 

Before 2030 arrives, the emerging of Singapore as the next microchips global player second to Taiwan will be a good calling itself and for Asean, the benefits outweighs risks, will it materialise? 

Should things comes in, there is a greater need to adopt nuclear energy (and LNG) especially vital for these microchips manufacturers. They need clean water and continuous electricity flow. Salination plant may be located next to these chips manufactures. Can it be TSMC and or SK coming into Singapore to set up plants? We have done it before, perhaps we can chip in again! 

 Simply put it, a big Welcome!

[3:38 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: We passed off China with our support of unclos on

[3:38 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/science-technology/industry-academia-collaboration-behind-taiwan-s-chip-manufacturing-success/2181235

[3:38 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: The Philippines case. So, how  will we be protecting our precious f35 on Guam!?

[3:39 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Mr Rama,

China has DF17 ranged into Guam

[3:39 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: I know that too

[3:43 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: A first step to deescalate the South China Sea is to allow the US and China coexist.

Philippines can play 'accommodating' diplomacy by offering 2 ports to each super power.

After all, these military infrastructures could well be a continuation for Marco Jr what  Duterte's legacy of BUILT BUILT BUILT?

[3:45 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Nothing is safe these days as thr Ukraine war has exposed the US satellites and spy webs amounting to airspace superiority!

What if you press that button and your missile redirect back to your own soil? Worth deeper thoughts before one's itchy fingers and playful mind!

[3:47 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: On China's term only!

[3:47 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: Exactly

[3:47 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: With it Guam or the Marshall Islands, it seems not really a threat. Perhaps it is a talking and arguing point to the daily worth of a dollar news...

[3:49 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: Indonesia has a similar problem in the natural islands with China that has yet to escalate further!

[3:49 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Coexist or Conflict...

Big boys know the limitations when they play these games of True or Dare!

Remember, fear is a moment of discomfort but the reality will be a big disruption to humans!

[3:49 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Natunas Island South of Singapore. Happens to ve our LNG supplier too

[3:51 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Only if, if only Asean comes as ONE then all things will go into the direction of STABILITY, next will be many opportunities for the 9+1 folks....

Don't fight among because unity is strength.... Selfishness will be doomed!

[3:52 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: Again, coexist not base on agreed and accepted international law but on the bully's term. Look at all the reclamation and construction on the various artificial reefs in the south China Sea! The interpretation of the 12km limit from shore/right of safe international passage/overflights by pla over economic zone of various claimant countries.

[3:54 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Is done, cannot undone! Look ahead to mitigate coming problems that is the South China Sea play!

Who has influence over Abu Sayyf? Who has control over NPA?

[3:55 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Stay united and engage or the big boys will entangle all of you! To the end of strangling you?

Who Needs Who Most?


[4:13 pm, 18/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Guam is not only China strategic 1st strike target but also NKorea 1st strike target.

NKorea have shot IRBM near Guam and is within reach during Trump's time.


[4:14 pm, 18/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Chances of Guam involve in the front line if war broke up with China or NKorea - is 50-50% because Guam have strategic nuclear bombers with range that can reach both China and NKorea.

Thus Guam is a strategic target.


[4:20 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: Agree

[4:28 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: During Obama times, China suggested to the Americans to coexist within the Pacific Ocean. Half-Half, Hawaii as the midway point. Looking back what the Chinese proposal, perhaps has alarmed the Americans to plan ahead to deal with these existential threats into today situations. A fractured world in a few pieces with little hope to mend this broken vase?  There are always cracks and it will have these fractured lines all over this vase, aka the world!

"The U.S. must show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests."

- - Paul Wolfowitz


[4:29 pm, 18/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Guam is a strategic airbase for us if we are in a military crisis because:-

1. There are 2 mid air refuel needs for our F35s to provide 2nd wave of air power.

2. Political strategic to get US military support and economic support if we get into trouble.

But we have a symmetric strategic risk - if US get into trouble with China or NKorea.

We will have collateral damage.

We only have less than 30 minutes to evacuate if IRBM missiles are launch and less than 15 minutes to evacuate if hypersonic missiles are launch


[4:30 pm, 18/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

"China developing hypersonic missiles that can hit a moving car with pinpoint accuracy"

 https://sg.yahoo.com/news/china-developing-hypersonic-missiles-hit-115751686.html#:~:text=J.P%20Morgan-,China%20developing%20hypersonic%20missiles%20that%20can%20hit%20a%20moving%20car%20with%20pinpoint%20accuracy,-Maroosha%20Muzaffar


[4:34 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/04/politics/us-hypersonic-missile-test/index.html

[4:35 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/all-news/article-706820


[4:35 pm, 18/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

China IRBM and hypersonic missiles won't miss the target because they are guided by beidou satellites - a constellation of satellites more than US satellites in space.

Unlike Russia missiles where many miss the military targets but hitting civilian infrastructure because they have very limited satellite to guide them.

They even have to use US commercial GPS, Google map to launch their missiles when US just simply shut off their GPS and Russia missiles miss the target.


[4:37 pm, 18/05/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

https://techthelead.com/russias-fighter-jets-flew-with-gps-taped-to-the-dashboard-says-uk-minister-but-others-say-germany-and-china-did-it-too/


[5:13 pm, 18/05/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors

We’d love to hear more from you on today's topic ๐Ÿ˜Š

We have had good feedback and hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!

Megan

[5:15 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: Blady joke

[5:16 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: America is way behind on this to their peril. Even Russia has just stepped up on the next generation of hypersonic weapons.

[5:16 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: Catch up too slow!

[5:19 pm, 18/05/2022] +BL: Russia talked about exploding a nuke under the sea in Europe to cause a Tsunami to wipe out the UK with radioactive sea water....

[5:19 pm, 18/05/2022] +BL: Who needs Hypersonic Missles?

[5:20 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: Blady lunatic putin!

[5:20 pm, 18/05/2022] +BL: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/03/ireland-condemns-russian-tv-for-nuclear-attack-simulation

[5:22 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: They also condemned Israel for atrocities against the Palestinian people

[5:22 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Laser speed vs Hypersonic speed 

https://youtu.be/TeXVZwYXDrY

[5:38 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Unmarked Aircraft, whose asset is this? The payload seemed light, perhaps people inside and small arms on board?๐Ÿคซ

[5:45 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Finland, Sweden formally submit application to join Nato

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/finland-sweden-submit-application-to-join-nato

True or Dare?

[5:47 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Fears for Mariupol defenders after surrender to Russia

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/fears-for-mariupol-defenders-after-surrender-to-russia

In war, things changed hands any less is not a war, it is a business deal!

[5:49 pm, 18/05/2022] +BL: Turkey saying they will block it.

[5:55 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Said Turkey, Turkey says... 

Fyi, one big hidden pain is interest rates, don't be a Greece? Just sign on the dotted line, please?

These days many paper tigers compared to yester years, those real raging tigers!

[5:56 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: The famous Mariupol Steel factory happens to supply 20% of Europeans steel needs!

When will this mega steel plant restarts?

What's the prices of steel product be like tomorrow comes?

What's the impact and significance to Asia and Asean, infrastructures development needs?

[6:06 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: I believe Singapore to at least be a observer if not a participant in this pro

[6:07 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: The pie seems to have been cut

[6:17 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Singapore, we are price taker, like many nations!

[6:18 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: That moment in time... 

https://youtu.be/Dc9uLSfczvA

[6:19 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: The beginnings...? 

https://youtu.be/SUrkzdhuVXI

[6:20 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: The path into 1997...

https://youtu.be/r55ESS6VwgY

[6:28 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Just before China entered WTO... Happier days! 

https://youtu.be/4LHUEy5yMuA

[6:30 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: From the left to the right, yesterdays till today, it's about human rights? 

https://youtu.be/wp2WwaqOkvc

[6:45 pm, 18/05/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,

⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰

Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan

[6:47 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Can Premier Zhu be a "kissenger" at the other end of the world? 

What the world needs perhaps is a breakthrough to normalcy between the US and China?

At the minimal, both can become "friends in benefits and kinds", is it possible?  Just like starting all over again! 

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[6:49 pm, 18/05/2022] +Anne: Dear G,

If COVID-19, whatever the variant, manifests itself only as flu or cold to the overwhelming majority of the population who can be on home recovery, then this disease is not of much concern to me. What is of great concern to me is the upcoming food and energy crisis.

I remember in 2001, 9/11 happened. At that time, all of us were anxious and uneasy. When will it be our turn to be bombed to death or be maimed? At that time, PM GCT told us that we should not live in fear, because fear is exactly what the terrorists want. Therefore, we should go about our normal lives, living without fear. If and when a terrorist attack happens, we deal with it. This turned out to be wise advice, otherwise we would be living in fear all the time, which would have resulted in a lot of mental stress and illnesses.

Fast forward to today, what a huge difference. We allow fear to dominate our thinking. Last year, during the Delta era, PM Lee stated that all of us will eventually get infected with Covid. Omicron variant is more transmissible than Delta, so everyone getting infected with Covid sooner or later is a given. So, no point having masks or safe distancing or VDS. The overwhelming majority of Covid deaths are the elderly with comorbidities - hence the solution to not allowing Covid to kill us is to strengthen our immune system. This means we need to reject unhealthy habits and live a healthy lifestyle. Doing so prevents not just Covid from killing us, it can fight against other diseases too. For masks, it is not healthy to keep inhaling carbon dioxide; this can result in some illness in the long term. For masks that are not made of 100% cloth, they are likely to made with plastics. Breathing in microplastics can be deadly too. Hence I would suggest removing the mask mandates. The masks are only useful if someone manifests symptoms of running nose and phlegm. For VDS, my opinion is it is a white elephant. You say it's to protect the unvaccinated, but if everyone has to get infected with Covid, what's the point of protecting them? Also, I'm certain most if not all of the not fully vaccinated people are not interested in your protection. Why waste so much money on the VDS protecting people who don't give a demm about your benevolence? Covid-19 may not be over, but there is no point worrying over future variants now. I suggest to not to borrow tomorrow's problems today as we are dealing with unknowns. People's movements have been restricted for nearly 2 years. What is the point of protecting people from Covid when they end up developing a myriad of psychological illnesses? We now hear of violent fights involving the use of weapons with great frequency. I believe this is a sign of mental illness most likely resulting from all these covid measures.

The Covid-19 affects predominantly the elderly with comorbidities, but the food and energy crisis affects all of us, except the rich. I do not know how badly Singapore will be affected, but if it is bad, the G will need a lot of resources to help the people. To support the Covid measures, we have already dipped into the reserves twice. Hence I suggest to stop all Covid measures and return all the unused Covid funds to MOF. If we continue to obsess over Covid, we will not have the mental and emotional energy to face new challenges. We need to let go of the old and rest and recharge our energies in order to strengthen our resilience to deal with whatever future giants that come our way.

Thank you.

[6:50 pm, 18/05/2022] +Rama: Let common sense and common good prevail for the good of all mankind.

[6:59 pm, 18/05/2022] +Smiley face: Zhou Enlai, Deng Xiaoping and Zhu Rongji.... any names left out, apologies! 

https://youtu.be/CWRQeIMi8qM

[6:59 pm, 18/05/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,

We will be closing the chat for today.

Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan ๐Ÿ˜Š


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