Taking stock - our successful Contributions in REACH to tackle covid-19 virus pandemic (SK)

18 Apr 2020

In total, taking stock, our successful recommendations:-

1. Non-alcohol sanitizer. (Alcohol will cause skin irritation and peel off. Also will cause alcohol poisioning if children accidentally put in the mouth. Alcohol based sanitizer may also be inflammable.)

2. Reusable washable face masks. (The most significant contribution that not only save many lives in Singapore, but also trigger Japan PM Abe from wearing it and the whole world subsequently adopt this as the most effective way to slow and curb covid infection).

3. Crowd mapping using mobile signal data and satellite GPS - spaceout and npark.

4. DSTA develop network analysis tool for contact tracing (location-based tracking).

5. PM call for circuit breaker measures - based on our highlight of increasing unlink cases.

6. Aggressive testing in dorms to weed out all infected cases (2,900 tests per day)

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Later we are going to bring up measures to tackle unlink cases in the community.

7. Propose extend circuit breaker to another 2 weeks if the infection number in community is not zero - few days before 4 May 2020.

(After note :- PM Lee announce on 21 Apr 2020 to extend circuit breaker to another 4 weeks from 4 May 2020 to 1 Jun 2020.)

8. Aggressive testing to ramp up to include essential service workers (ramp up from 3,000 to 8,000 tests per day) - announced by Minister Gan Kim Yong and Minister Lawrence Wong on 27 Apr 2020.

9. Propose step-by-step opening up of Economic inititatives after Circuit Breaker ends echo by PM Lee, Minister Iswaran, Minister Chan Chun Sing (30 Apr 2020 - 1 May 2020)

10. Raise concern on Bluetooth Security in Tracetogether mobile apps - and Government will not make it compulsory but working with Google and Apple - to tighten Android and iOS. (2 May 2020)

11. Government adopted SafeEntry scan QR code by 12 May 2020 compulsory for people entering any malls or establishment to trace people entry. (2 May 2020)

12. Commented that Youth is wasted on the young. Now graduating cohort can start going to school 😊 (12 May 2020) (SK)

13. Propose organise testing priorities into Batches. Nursing homes testing fall into Batch 3b (25 Apr 2020) - Government announce it will test nursing homes as one of the priority batch on 2 May 2020.

(CNA

02 May 2020 09:25PM

(Updated: 02 May 2020 09:30PM)

Authorities prioritising COVID-19 testing at nursing homes, employees to be housed on-site or at hotels)

14.  Propose batch testing of workers when circuit breaker ease (25 Apr 2020) - Government announce priority testing for customer-facing staff (3 May 2020).

15. Propose virtual conferencing to negotiate RCEP and target for signing on end 2020 (30 Apr 2020) - Minister Chan Chun Sing announced in 3 May 2020) - that RCEP intense virtual meeting ongoing and likely to sign by end 2020.

16. Propose Order online and pick up later at retail - retail Giant implement (SK)

17. Proposed Psychological resiliency (Zen) to unite Singaporeans and residents (5 Feb 2020) - PM Lee speech say psychological and social resiliency is important in this fight against virus pandemic (13 Mar 2020).

18. Proposed Community spreading fall to zero or single digit before opening (25 Apr 2020) - echo by Minister Gan Kim Yong (4 May 2020)

19. Proposed to allow foreign workers to have space to walk in the sun and not confine to indoor small space (28 Apr 2020) - Colonel Chua managing isolation camps allow foreign workers to walk in the sun (6 May 2020) (SK)

20. Proposed risk based approach to tackle virus pandemic and not evidence-based approach which is reactive (10 Apr 2020). Early Childhood Development Agency (ECDA) - “After pre-school services fully resume, we will consider a *risk-based* testing system to protect children and staff,” an ECDA spokesperson told CNA. (14 May 2020) (SK)

21. Raise concern on skin irritation and breathe in toxin disinfectant fumes when using disinfectant chambers. WHO confirm similar concern. Temasek Foundation decide to do a trial on such concern in deployment. (SK)

22. Suggest it is the onus of business to present Government with detail plan on what safety safeguard to be put in place by each industries and each buinsess before allowing opening up in Phase 1, 2 and 3 (22 May 2020).

Minister Lawrence Wong say the same thing on 28 May 2020.

23. Post cardboard beds for easy and assemble for sick patients. Use by Government to house foreign workers doing essential services (30 May 2020). (SK)

24. I raise the issue of Bluetooth security used by Tracetogether apps. Tracetogether apps not make compulsory, wearable bluetooth dongle will be distributed to everyone. (5 Jun 2020).

25. Contribute the link on "Singapore rank 4th highest in safety risk against virus conducted by independant international study for foriegn investors" (8 Jun 2020). Report in Straits Times (10 Jun 2020) (SK)

26. Contribute pictures on the various plastic shield to protect diners in restaurant, food centres. Comfort Delgro subsidiary roll out plastic shield in Ko Fu food court to trial and will roll out to more food court if successful (10 Jun 2020) (SK)

27.  I commented that IT security must be the core of any National IT system roll out to the public. I am refering to the Tracetogether mobile apps bluetooth security vulenrability (4 May 2020). DPM Heng Swee Keat sees what I see - that cybersecurity must be the core of any IT design that roll out to the public. 'Digital virus' might be bigger threat than Covid-19: Heng Swee Keat (13 Jun 2020).

Minister Vivian also say that Tracetogether token should be open up in code, design - for public feedback and can be improved upon. (13 Jun 2020).

28. Comment in REACH on PSP 6 members campaigning violate 5 people in a group under MOH safety guideline and ELD campaigning guideline (19 Jun 2020). REACH Administrator say they will feedback to relevant Authorities. Safe Distancing Ambassador take down the particulars of all PSP members for flouting the law. (22 Jun 2020 CNA).

29. Comment in REACH on Holland Village - British Indian Curry restaurant big crowd without mask and breach safe distancing (20 Jun 2020). URA close the shop and the sidewalk for breaching safe distancing (21 - 22 Jun 2020 CNA)

30. Propose digitalisation through eCommerce for SMEs and big Enterpises to tap not only local market but also overseas market align with ITM. (28 Apr 2020) (27 May 2020). 500 SMEs digitalise through eCommerce platform to access overseas market (ST 22 Jun 2020)

31. Projection through math calculation dorm testing will complete by end July or Aug 2020. (SK). CNA 25 Jun 2020  report that 70% to 80% of migrant workers in dormitories expected to be COVID-19 free by end-July 2020: Lawrence Wong.

32. Suggest RFID to track quarantine travellers to stay at quarantine home. (24 Mar 2020). Govt use GPS, bluetooth etc to track quarantine travellers to stay at quarantine home. (4 Aug 2020 Straits Times) (SK)

33. Write in REACH that 2020 General Election mood turn sour because many mid-career PMETs got retrench and cannot find jobs - not only young voters swing the votes. Also many business run into difficulties because of the covid lockdown. These assessment is contrary to most independent analysts of post GE outcome. (11 July 2020). Minister Lawrence Wong confirm my assessment is correct - not only young voters that swing the votes. (18 July 2020 Straits Times).

34. Propose vegetarian foods, vegan based meat, 3D printed vegan base meat, cell-culture, tissue re-engineering meat, beyond meat to replace slaughtering of animal meat and prevent virus pandemic. (2 Aug 2020). Government plan food security R&D to achieve the proposed contribution.

(Straits Times 13 Aug 2020

Strengthening food security with R&D

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/strengthening-food-security-with-rd?cx_testId=20&cx_testVariant=cx_2&cx_artPos=3#cxrecs_s)

35.(a) Proposed to re-boot our air hub organised "ring-fence" business travellers, tour group and MICE (17-18 Aug 2020). Minister of Transport Ong Ye Kung Channel 8 - 7pm interview - Minister Ong YK - say 3 prong approach to re-boot our air hub. (For Countries with good control infection)  1. Business traveller Reciprocal Green Lane 2. Open up for foreign tourists to come in 3. talk too fast - cannot catch...... the 3rd approach ----- but in a safe manner. (18 Aug 2020, 7pm)

35.(b) Proposed reboot our air hub through organised "ring-fence" tours, green lane for business travellers and MICE. (18 Aug 2020). MOT Ong Yee Kung annouce "air-bubbles" tours with test to replace Stay-Home-Notice for New Zealand, Brunei; and 7 days SHN to replace 14 days SHN for some Asia Pacific Countries with low infection rate. (21 Aug 2020).

36. PIE Jalan Anak Bukit highway car skid - suggest anti-skid highway (23 Aug 2020). Straits Time LTA report it will install anti-skid measures on the highway (23 Aug 2020). (Poh)

37. Analysis in REACH that 12 China national to Tianjin fly in Scoot tested positive - are time-based discharge which are no longer infectious. (24 Aug 2020). CNA report the 12 China national infected are due to time-based discharge and no longer infectious. (25 Aug 2020). (with SK)

38. Post Government should take into account the impact of "Geopolitical tension" on Singapore in addition to impact cause by virus pandemic that are not articulate in President Budget 2020 Parliament speech. (25 Aug 2020). SM Teo Chee Hean announce a whole of government and civil service approach to tackle the impact on our economic resources due to "Geopolitical tension". (CNA 27 Aug 2020).

39. Write in REACH to use hard ratio for foreign workers 30%, local 70% (currently no quota for work pass holders) - to test the veracity of using hard ratio - that produce immediate outcome of employing local workforce (but a trade-off that will drive away investors). (1 Sep 2020, noon 2pm). MOM Minister Josephine Teo say "Employment Pass quota not unthinkable, but probably unwise as it drive away investors". (1 Sep 2020, 5pm, Straits Times).

40. Case A to H - REACH contribution in view on foreign workers,  Unfair treatment of Singaporeans workers, Global investors want to setup Global or Regional HQ to Singapore,  needs for Global Talents, fiscal prudence and protect our reserve, Targeted help for vulnerable, Retraining and upskilling mature displaced workers, Wear reusable cloth face masks. (cover by CNA PM Lee Parliamentary speech 2 Sep 2020 )

41. Observations on unfair treatment of local workers versus foreigners. (31 Aug 2020). CNA PM Lee Parliamentary speech 2 Sep 2020 (quote similar example). (SK)

42. Post in REACH that foreign hiring managers if foreigners will look for its own kind in hiring. (31 Aug 2020). MP Patrick Tay in Parliamentary speech Sep 2020 (say hiring managers must change mindsets on local workers). (SK)

43. Propose ITM (and PWM) in 1 May 2012. ITM implemented in Budget 2016. PWM implemented in 21 Jun 2012.

44. Recommend "ring-fence" air bubbles, "safe tunneling" air corridors for MICE (17 Aug 2020). Government open MICE up to 250 attendees in 7 Sep 2020.

45. Say that Singapore must continue to maintain our status as Air hub, Port hub, Data hub, Finance hub, Manufacturing hub, Medical hub, Food hub, Water hub, Energy hub etc. (31 Aug 2020). Minister of Trade Chan Chun Sing say Singapore must still be the global hub and gateway to ASEAN, as well as "critical nodes" for businesses as Singapore adds value to their supply chain. CNA (8 Sep 2020)

46. Propose - Bring in only foreigners that can contribute millions or billions of investment into Singapore, or bring in ideas, r&d and skillsets that Singaporean do not have - but as a result create many new  and good quality jobs for Singaporeans. (31 Aug 2020). CNA (8 Sep 2020) Minister of Trade Chan Chun Sing say Singapore want the world’s best and brightest to be with Team Singapore. Singapore’s foreign worker policies are shifting towards “quality" rather than quantity.

47. Advocate TraceTogether token over TraceTogether mobile apps as mobile apps handphone can be hacked for financial gain as oppose to token that have no incenttive to hack as there are no financial data. (14 Jun 2020). CNA Government distribute TraceTogether token for free to Singapore residents. (9 Sep 2020).

48. Say that providing Government grant to SMEs is only temporary and not sustainable. Government should help to provide access to market local and overseas, buy their products or tie the start up to big enterprise to help them market their products to big overseas markets. (21 Aug 2020). Straits Times (9 Sep 2020) - 2nd Minister of Trade Tan See Leng say no amount of short-term relief is enough if there are no new businesses and revenue streams coming in and this is why the Government is exploring ways to open up the country for trade. 

49. Say that gov should help to provide access to market local and overseas, buy their products or tie the start up to big enterprise to help them market their products to big overseas markets. GLCs can identify promising startups to partner them and market their products in solutioning as well as provide resources to them. (21 Aug 2020). Straits Times (9 Sep 2020) - 2nd Minister of Trade Tan See Leng say Government policies can be better adapted to help start-ups and SMEs scale up so that they can compete internationally - having been certified and validated by the big government-linked companies here in Singapore.

50. Propose SMS alerts will be sent to those who were at locations with higher transmission risk. REACH message will be implemented in 10 Sep 2020. (SK)

51. Propose face mask with sensors that can detect covid-19. (14 May 2020). Straits Times 10 Sep 2020 Local researchers invented a face mask with sensors to detect covid-19 virus.

52. Propose SIA flights to nowhere and staycations or static airplanes meal. (21 Aug 2020). Straits Times SIA looks to launch 'flights to nowhere' by end-October to mitigate Covid-19 fallout (11 Sep 2020)

53. Suggest using mobile data and GPS to track (quarantine people or infected person). 非常时期，需要非常手段. (31 Mar 2020). CNA 12 Sep 2020 - More than 3,500 electronic wristband devices issued to travellers serving stay-home notices: ICA using user handphone and GPS data if user leave home.

54. Suggest aggressive testing - that will discover infection, early treatment, early quarantine, and greatly reduced mortality. 25 Apr 2020 (SK). Yahoo 17 Sep 2020 WHO praise Singapore low mortality rate and one of the reason is due to aggressive testing.

55. Gender equality - mention women in Singapore is not deliberately indiscriminate against. And a hard ratio in women representation in important position is based on merit and the right fit. (21 Sep 2020). Minister Shanmugam say the same. CNA (24 Sep 2020).

56. Propose SIA conduct inflight meal and entertainment on stationary plane. (SK) (21/08/2020)  Today report (29 Sep 2020) - SIA use A380 provide inflight meal, entertainment on stationary plane. 

57. Propose "ring fence" air bubbles and "safe tunneling" air corridor for overseas travellers. (14 Aug 2020). MOT Ong Ye Kung announce safe air bubbles for overseas travellers. (6 Oct 2020) CNA.

58. Propose digitalise shipping port management system through virtual to physical port connectivity. (07 Jul 2019). Straits Times Senior Minister of State Chee Hong Tat announce Digitalising the shipping industry can enhance global trade. (8 Oct 2020)

59. Propose Singapore should seize the opportunity to insert ourselves into China +1 supply chain strategy that make ASEAN the heart of China strategy. (31Aug2020). CNA (12Oct2020) report China +1 strategy of redirecting investment into ASEAN and China big tech companies like Alibaba, Tencent, Bydance/Tik Tok has heavy investment in Singapore as a result of US trade war.

60. Propose virtual browser with container to allow access to Internet via thin client - to prevent internet hackers from hacking into Government Intranet - arising from Singhealth APT attack). (12Nov2018, 20Jul2018). Straits Times (15Oct2020) Singapore civil serviice have secure internet access via remote browsing technology.

61. Argue on PWM is better than universal minimum wages and propose to put this as a topic for debate. (I and SK) (07Sep2020). REACH extend time in REACH whatsapp (15Oct2020) to discuss this topic PWM (propose by PAP) versus Universal Minimum Wages (propose by WP).

62. Propose incentives for epayment to be successful. (09Sep2020). I also alert about the impact of China digital yuan on Singapore yuan currency exchange (19Sep2020, 12.21pm). CNA report that China digital yuan epayment is successful only if incentive is given. It also concur with my analysis of the impact of China new digital yuan (19Sep2020, 5.25pm). 

63. Raise the threat due to US-China tension and bifurcation to our supply chain - how to transform the threat into opportunities (25Aug, 28Aug, 15Oct2020). Straits Times MTI Chan Chun Sing say Singapore can serve various different markets if we play our cards right even in a fragmenting and bifurcation world. (19Oct2020)

64. Propose vegan based meat to replace animal meat to stop slaughtering animals and curb pandemic and epidemic. (2Aug2020). Straits Times 20Oct2020 Impossible plant-based meat goes on sale in 79 FairPrice supermarkets and RedMart.

65. Propose CSA must review any National IT desgin before pushing out. Else without regard to building in IT security ---- then the person is building a dangerous platform that will cause tremendous economic, social and even physical damages to the Nation.(4 May 2020). Straits Times (10 Nov 2020) Cyber Security Agency (CSA) of Singapore has warned the public about the perils associated with scanning QR codes with phishing codes.

66. Biden elected President 2020 - Posting in REACH on Insights on World Peace and World Prosperity through Global Cooperation and Collaboration (9 Nov 2020). Straits Times 17 Nov 2020 - PM Lee hopes US President-elect Biden will come up with framework for 'constructive' US-China ties.

67. Biden elected President 2020 - Posting in REACH on Insights on World Peace and World Prosperity through Global Cooperation and Collaboration (9 Nov 2020). Straits Times 17 Nov 2020 - Washington, Beijing must find areas of cooperation or risk sliding into conflict: Henry Kissinger.

68. Raise question whether our Civil Service standard have dropped? And need to raise this to the attention to COPS and Ministers. (25Nov2020). Head Civil Service Leo Yip and MOF publish 2 Public Sector reports that show Public Service standard is very high as compared to the World in CNA news. (26Nov 2020).

69. Suggest that oveseas travel may need vaccination if Countries start dictating it. (SK) (2Dec2020). WHO looks at possible 'e-vaccination certificates' for travel. (Reuters)(DECEMBER 3, 2020 7:39 PM)

70. Suggest vegan meat, cell-culture tisue re-engineering meat to be priced to appeal to mass market. Now the price too high. (11Nov2020). CNA 02 Dec 2020 San Francisco-based Eat Just, cell culture chicken meat intend to price their cell culture meat to appeal to mass market.

71. Mention China "dual circulation" strategy will affect Singapore. Singapore can work with China in both "internal and external circulation" and yuan currency exchange. (2Nov2020). Straits Times (7Dec2020) DPM Heng Swee Keat enquire and will like to work with China Vice-Premier Han Zheng to offer Singapore cooperation with China on external circulation and yuan currency exchange.

72. To see all financial instrument in "One View" under Singapore Data Exchange, I suggest in REACH to use multiple FA (as 2FA with user id, password and SMS OTP - is not sufficient if land in same handphone - as malware with keylogger can steal it) (7Dec2020). CNA (16 Dec 2020) - Multiple FA provided by GovTech - other than SMS OTP, biometrics like facial recognition is provide for SingPass login.

73. 02Dec2020 propose "Securing vaccines may become a necessary part of borders reopening criteria. If countries decide that it will only open up to persons who are vaccinated then we have no choice but to secure and make available the vaccines for persons who need to travel." in REACH. Straits Times 2Jan2021 Hong Kong in talks to use coronavirus vaccine records for travel. SCMP 2Jan2021  Vaccine passports, domestic tourism, pricey flights – is this the future of travel in a post-pandemic Asia. (SK)

74. Suggest that single-used plastic bags are required to bag home liquid and solid waste and protect low-income earners having to pay for plastic bag to bag home waste. (01Oct2018). Straits Times (16Jan2021) Senior MOS Amy Khor echo the same view. However she is willing to explore charge plastic bags who take 3 or more. (I support such move - to reduce plastic bags but yet can be used to bag home waste).

75. Question why the elderly with sickness are vaccinated first as it pose safety risk - as they are frail. The Time of India (16Jan2021) reported that 23 elderly with chronic patients die after Pfizer vaccination in Norway. Write to REACH to request for temporary halt for this age and health group while requesting Government Authority to seek clarification with Pfizer on the safety for this age and health group. (SK)

76. Suggest in REACH that Israel could be a good vaccination model for the World to follow - as its early data indicate the vaccine is proving effective in stopping the covid-19 pandemic. (1:24 pm, 20/01/2021 Israel lead the world in vaccination - using predominantly Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.Israel project it will be the first country in the world to get back to normal lives.) CNA news on 22/1/2021 5pm and 23/1/2021 12pm - broadcast a segment on Israel vaccination drive - and Israel Health Authority project that the pandemic in Israel will end when the vaccination is completed in end Mar 2021.

77. Suggest in REACH to articipate and seamlessly integrate with China DCEP digital yuan and continue to strengthen Singapore as yuan currency exchange through offshore yuan trading hub as well as operating as gateway between China financial system as well as the World financial system through SWIFT. (02 Nov 2021)

Ledger Insights (29 Jan 2021) "WEF: China says digital yuan doesn’t aim to challenge dollar - “*Is Singapore willing to have the Chinese digital currency move into Singapore*? *And China willing to accept the Singapore digital currency*? *Maybe the two countries can sign a deal*?” asked Zhu Min jocularly. Zhu Min is Chairman of China’s National Institute of Financial Research at Tsinghua University and a former Deputy Managing Director at the IMF and former Deputy Governor at the People’s Bank of China.

78. Suggest in REACH that disinformation about the vaccines that cause safety issues from fake news websites are created by conspiracy groups to sabotage the vaccination efforts. (1 Feb 2021). CNA (2 Feb 2021) Minister Iswaran - Govt 'will not hesitate to use the full force of the law' on vaccine-related misinformation: Iswaran

79. Commented in REACH that the Singapore Rediscover tourism voucher is too difficult and onerous to redeem online. Will end up not many people using it. Suggest using hardcopy vouchers will have a better outcome of achieving the Tourism objective of rebooting our Tourism Sector. (25/11/2020).    The Online Citizen (17/3/2021) report that only $53 million of the vouchers have been used up out of $320 million in Mar 2021. The voucher will expire in end Jun 2021. Social media netizens feedback that the redemption process online is too onerous to use and thus rather not used it.

80. Share in REACH and SCMP how US democratic system can patch its inadequacies eg. long term strategic planning to anchor strategic industries, plan infrastructure upgrade and ensure continuous talent supply (22Mar2021). CNA news (26Mar2021) Biden unveil trillion dollars plan to invest in new technologies areas that will make it competitive as well as plan infrastructure upgrade.

81. Share in REACH and SCMP Mr LKY say, we can punch above our weight - not because we are big, not because we are rich, not because we are powerful. It is because of our soft power, our ability to emphatise, our ability to work with anyone and our ability to work out mutual benefits with everyone.(25Mar2021). CNA news (26Mar2021)  "China has an overall goal ... to become the leading country in the world, the wealthiest country in the world and the most powerful country in the world," Biden told reporters at the White House. 

82. Post in REACH and SCMP - China Leaders are very smart people, they will determine whether my postings are useful to help them resolve the China-US geopolitical tension and use it (22Mar2021). CNA news (26Mar2021)  Biden told reporters at the White House, "Xi is a smart, smart guy".

83. Post in REACH and SCMP - Dividing the World into 2 Blocs will trigger World War 3 - because the 2 Blocs are not trading resources but instead snatch resources for their Blocs at the expenses of the other Bloc. This is what happen in World War 1 and 2 (22Mar2021). CNA news (26Mar2021)  China ambassador in US Cui TianKai say "Divide the world into 2 different camps or even build confrontational military blocs - is not the solution".

84. Post in REACH and SCMP - Correcting both system of governance and moving them into the middle ground is the key to resolve the seemingly unsolvable deadlock. Suggest democratic process can take place in Communism and evolve into a Hybrid Universal Suffrage / Communism 这是共产主义中的民主进程。 (22Mar2021). CNA news (26Mar2021 Biden say "Xi don't have a democratic - with a smal "d" bone in his body".

85. Post in REACH 25/05/2020, 29/03/2021  If all work at home, that means boss can engage and outsource to foreign workers who demand much lesser salary who are working overseas at home to do Singaporean work.            CNA (4Apr2021) 4 in 10 jobs can be done remotely at home :- MOM report.  Minister Josephine Teo to track such trend and to respone to help local worker. (SK)

86. Advise China to arrange for neutral foreign media and UN rep to visit Xinjiang to dispel genocide claim in Xinjiang in SCMP. (12Apr2021). SCMP report (27Apr2021) that Beijing takes foreign media to Xinjiang in bid to dispel suspicion.

87. Feedback to STB, Toursim voucher should use IC to exchange in CC rather than online if digitalisation is a rush job. And request extend deadline of expiry to Dec 2021 (26Nov2020). CNA (30Apr2021) STB to extend deadline from Jun 2021 to Dec 2021 and allow enhancement in tourism voucher redepmtion. If people encounter difficulties to redeem online, can use IC to redeem toursim vouchers in CC.

88. SK suggest in REACH Government should inform people who were present at the same place of visit or locations by infected people so that people can take precaution. (REACH - 14Sep2020). Government implement "SafeEntry - Were you there" website whereby people can access the website via SingPass to check whether people are in the same vicinty visited by infected people. (2May2021) (SK)

89. 23Nov2020 SK suggest in REACH to donate Tourism vouchers of $100 to charities if some people don't want to use it. CNA (30Apr2021) STB allow people to donate tourism voucher to charities. (SK)

90. 30 Apr 2021 suggest in REACH to vaccinate patients in hospitals if medically eligible as the patients don't put on mask in hospital wards. 5May2021 Mdm Ho Ching say in Facebook - patients should be vaccinated.

91. 27Apr2021 SK send a URL link which I send to REACH portal of a science journal that link mRNA vaccines (eg. Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccine) to neurological disease as the 2 proteins in body bind with mRNA molecules that cause aggregate protein in brain or spinal cord leading to dermentia or Parkinson disease. Straits Times 6May2021 report that Singapore medical experts debunk claims of link between Covid-19 vaccines and neurological diseases, say more evidence needed. Currently experimental evidence did not indicate the 2 proteins in body bind with mRNA molecules that cause aggregate protein in brain or spinal cord leading to dermentia or Parkinson disease. (SK)

92. 4May2021 Propose in REACH to prop up safe air bubble despite the community spread to keep our External Economy going. Consist of 4 safe ways to ensure safe travel without needing to quarantine. 6 May 2021 Straits Times Minister Ong Ye Kung propose 4 safe ways to ensure safe travel without needing to quarantine.

93. 10May2021 6.45pm Propose in REACH to let not racism take hold after a few cases of verbal or physical assault against Indians concerning India double mutants. 10May2021 11.20pm CNA report PM Lee HL and few leaders warn against racism hatred towards the Indians due to increase in India double mutants.

94. 10Apr2020 SK suggest a risk-based approach rather than evidence-based approach should be used as it is a more proactive method to tackle the covid pandemic. 5May2021 Minister Lawrence Wong say Singapore approach to this covid pandemic is risk-based. (SK)

95. 31Mar2020 SK suggest using GPS data and mobile signal to map up places visited by infected people. https://ppvpc.github.io/ implemented this suggestion of places visited by infected people onto Singapore map. (SK)

96. Suggest in REACH to use mass vaccination as the primary tool to solve this India double mutants and defeat the covid-19. (15May, 17May,2012). PM Lee Hsien Loong Facebook (18May2021) Vaccination remains one of the best ways to keep ourselves safe. We want to protect as many people as possible, and as soon as possible.

97. Suggest in REACH "Will the Government dispatch someone to coax elderly to vaccinate? Know of some elderly who are adverse of vaccination due to getting wrong facts from the news. Need the authorities to dispatch someone to educate and coax some of the elderly who are given letters for vaccination - but did not register to vaccinate. The dispatch person can help the elderly to register for vaccination once the elderly are convinced to be vaccinated." [2:49 pm, 02/03/2021]. Straits Times ( MAY 19, 2021, 12:36 AM.) Home Covid-19 vaccination service to be offered for those who are homebound. 

98. Suggest in REACH to tackle 2nd wave leading to Phase 2HA (Heightened Alert) - speedy contact tracing, testing, ring-fence, ramp up vaccination. (1May2021). CNA (31May2021). PM Lee televised speech - faster and more test, speedy contact tracing, and vaccination.

99. Suggest in REACH to consider using non-mRNA vaccine (eg. Sinovac) - for those people not suitable for mRNA vaccines due to allergies (21May2021). CNA (31May2021)  People who want alternative COVID-19 vaccines (due to allergies to mRNA vaccines) can get them under special access route - such as WHO approved Sinopharm, AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson or Sinovac when WHO approved.

100. SK suggest in REACH - important to do aggressive testing to identify all infected cases - so that it can be ring-fence and control the spread. (25/04/2020) CNA (31May2021). PM Lee televised speech - faster and more test, speedy contact tracing, and vaccination. Many types of test kits are made available eg. breath analysers, DIY test kits, saliva test kits, seweage analysis in addition to ART and PCR. (SK)

101. Suggest in REACH - Mandatory Vaccination for whole population in Singapore to protect everyone - especially in endemic stage. (17/05/2021). Straits Times (1Jun2021) Covid-19 vaccine could become like yearly flu shot, say experts on Straits Times' panel discussion. 

“At some point, we will see Covid-19 being included as part of our national immunisation schedule for both adults and children, and perhaps we will need regular booster shots from time to time to make sure we continue to be protected, especially against any new emerging variants,” said Professor Teo Yik Ying, dean of the Saw Swee Hock School of Public Health at the National University of Singapore.

102. Commented in REACH (3Jun2021) that Singapore less than 40% vaccination rate among our population has not reached an inflection point - where we can treat covid as mild flu - as though we are in an endemic stage. We cannot be foolhardy and will be suicidal if we relax our restriction without observing what the math and science of the infection and vaccination rate tell us. Else many unvaccinated people will succumb.

CNA (4Jun2021) Singapore medical experts say that our Vaccination of less than 40% has not entitled us to take our foot off the brake. Else we are going to have an explosive situation. Only when we achieve a high Vaccination rate of 70 - 90% - then we have reach endemic stage - and can treat covid as mild flu. But those unvaccinated people will be most vulnerable to covid - as they are without protection and may land them in hospitals if they fail to vaccinate.

103. I post in SCMP (30 Apr, 2021) - urge China to develop and manifest "Heart Softpower" - --- that can win over many friends all over the World instead of focus on economic power or military might to win friendship.

CNA (04 Jun 2021) President Xi Jin Ping say that China needs to create a new image that is “trustworthy, lovable, and respectful”. Chinese President Xi Jinping urged senior party leaders and wants the country to learn how to make friends and influence people. This could be a sign of a shift in China’s foreign policy posture towards constructive engagement and away from confrontation.

104. Suggest in REACH (03Jun2021) that once vaccination rate reaches an inflection point like in Israel, US, UK, EU - above 50%, infection number fall drastically. Suggest Singapore must achieve this inflection point of vaccination. 

Straits Times (11Jun2021) MTF Lawrence Wong say Singapore is aiming for half its residents to be fully vaccinated by August, and at least 75 per cent by October 2021.

Finance Minister Lawrence Wong gave the projection at a news conference on Thursday (June 10), as he noted that the United States saw infection rates steadily come down - from a peak in January this year - when about half the population developed immunity to the coronavirus which causes Covid-19.

105. I commented in REACH (14 & 18Jun2021) - that Singapore has not reached endemic stage (mild flu) as we are only 30% over with 2 dose vaccination, and our infection number, hospitalisation number is still high. 

CNA (18Jun2021) (5pm) Singapore’s vaccination rates are currently “still not high enough” to provide sufficient protection in the population, said co-chair of the COVID-19 multi-ministerial task force Lawrence Wong on Friday (Jun 18).  

Speaking at a press conference, he noted the views of some people who think that since COVID-19 could be endemic,  Singapore should proceed with easing measures as planned and “not overreact to each and every new cluster”. “So if we were to ease our restrictions too early, big clusters can easily break out and overwhelm us and result in higher hospitalisation and even mortality for the vulnerable groups. That's exactly what we are worried about.” 

106. SK suggest in REACH (8Jun2021) to arrange school by school and class by class to vaccinate school children to ferry them by school bus. Parents who agree their children to vaccinate should just sign the consent form. Dr Maliki Osman, Senior MOS (21Jun2021)say MOE has plan to ferry school children to vaccination centre when school reopen after Jun holiday. (SK)

107. SK post in REACH (18Jun2021) that the MOH website on Breakdown of local cases by Vaccination and Severity of cases - There was no timeframe stamp for the collected statistics. Presume all three bars are tabulated from the same timeframe?

MOH update the timeframe (since 28Apr2021) based on the feedback (22Jun2021). (SK)

108. Suggest in REACH using ring-fence to quickly isolate any cluster detected.

109. Suggest in REACH to monitor and use Israel vaccination model as our model for vaccination due to its positive outcome in curbing covid.

110. Suggest in REACH that treatment drugs will be an important tool - the moment we enter into endemic stage by treating covid as mild flu - as treatment is important to minimise hospitalisation, ICU, oxygen support and death - to enable fast recovery from covid.

111. Post to suggest Police should use handgun loaded with magazine of more than 10 rounds to replace revolvers - to deal with terrorism.

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Weng Cheng Ye

Ricky Lim

So which ward do we expect to see you representing the ruling party in the next election?

Your accounting/financial analysis prowess put me to shame.

南无阿弥陀佛🙏🙏🙏

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Ricky Lim

Weng Cheng Ye - ha ha ha...

I am not from accounting or financial background.

Also, I am not into politics.

I am a neutral person & not with any party - just wanting to ensure that our Country is doing well and Singaporeans and residents are living well.

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Jimmy Hui

Weng Cheng Ye, "Ricky Lim" account was set up for a group of people to rebut any criticism of the ruling party. That is why you probably find him amazing with his long stories and analysis and he can talk on anything (a group of people is behind the account).

A neutral person & not with any party - will not go to such extend and spent so much time justifying what the ruling party did is always correct. "He" will remain anonymous and talking to him is as good as talking to a bot.

Save your time...

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Ricky Lim

Jimmy Hui - Ricky Lim is one and only one person - not associate with any party.

Also I am not always with the Ruling Party.

Anything that is done correctly I will support - whether is Ruling Party or Opposition Party.

Anything that is not done correctly, I will propose what should be the correct things to do.

Eg. SingHealth cyberattack - I propose my solution how to stop the APT attack.

President Trump and President Kim visit to Singapore on denuke talk - I propose Sentosa instead of Shangrila. And I am very please that the MFA, MHA, Mindef etc are very effective and efficient to host and ramp up organisation skills and security skills to protect the foreign dignitaries and ensure a successful talk.

It shows that if the security forces (a combined integrated forces of the Home Team, Air, Land, Sea, Air defense - at short notice) can protect Sentosa (a pilot test of protecting an island and the gateway), they can protect Singapore.

Foreign Policy of "Friends with All. Adversaries with None. Forge mutual benefits with Win-Win outcome." - is my proposed foreign policy principle.

Changing police revolver to magazine load handgun to combat terrorism - is also my proposal.

 Using rail sensor to proactively to detect track fault with central monitoring instead of "eyeball" track fault is my proposal.

Section 377A - I also propose my opinion of Explicit lens and Implicit lens.

ITM - Industry Transformation Map and centralised online Job Portal to resolve the disruptive tech that disrupt business and jobs - is my proposal.

Social Entrepenurship Hawker Centre with at least 1 cheap dish per stall is also my proposal.

And many others. such as Mention 苏东波 尿 can be evaporated and become drinking water in 1990s - become Newater in 2000.

My view is for the good of Singapore - which is Party neutral.

Just happen that I agree with about 90 to 95% of the view that is held by the Ruling Party - does not means that i am the Ruling Party social media spokesman.

I write what is best for Singapore, what is most pragmatic that works, not what is most popular but that will sink the Country.

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Jimmy Hui

Ricky Lim, after all that you've wrote and with so much of your proposals implemented, you expect anyone to believe you are "one and only one person"? If you are one person, you must be a super human cos you seem to have tremendous in-depth knowledge on everything under the sky. A super human like you should have joined (or may be you already have) a political party and with your credentials and foresights could easily be leading Singapore by now. Why just stay anonymous and gave all the above proposals for free? YOLO (you only live once) so why not make use of your life to show what you can do for society (and singapore) since you have such a great heart for the country and the people? I almost thought you're a reincarnated LKY :)

I still find it hard to believe you are "one and only one person" you claimed. Even if you're a one person, you're no ordinary guy. I suspect you must be a top notch civil servant (active or retired) unless you're some kind of prodigy /genius who choose to stay anonymous - what a waste! The fact that you do not have a face to your account and your usual staunch support of the ruling party, suspicion of your party affiliation is obvious and as for me I still suspect it's a group of people behind that "Ricky Lim". Sorry for not respecting your name (if it's your real name) and your "one and only one person" claim. Chao!

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Ricky Lim

Jimmy Hui - Ha ha ha...

Well "Ricky Lim" - indeed is "one and only one person".

You say "Ricky Lim" is a super-human - with in-depth knowledge ----- well there are many capable people in the Civil Service and the Ruling Party possessing such breadth and depth knowledge. I am certainly not a reincarnated LKY in which I have the full respect - that is too much a compliment.

As for why give my proposals free --- well the Buddha also give his immense knowledge free to the World - for the sole purpose of "liberating human sufferings to benefit the Universe".

Singapore is doing very well under a very capable Party - that even earn the respects of the World.

Singapore is not undergoing a crisis. There is no need to have another Mr LKY.

Many of the policies from the Ruling Party - are pragmatic, solving the real problem of Singapore and bring the Country forward - except some fine tuning needed that have fall off the crack.

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Jimmy Hui

Ricky Lim, not only have I said you seem to have in-depth knowledge of everything under the sky, you are also a master of modern warfare (y). Good strategies and imaginations (y).

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Ricky Lim

Jimmy Hui - Our Sovereignty have been trampled on and a direct threat are make on us.

We must stand up and use our assets to the fullest - to deter any threat directed at us.

We must not let our adversary go away with the idea the Singapore can be bullied !

Under this multiple layer of naval and air defences --- do you think that old man can intrude into our water territories?

We can also rest our naval guys and air force guys = with 24 hours patrol deploying unmanned stealth warships along our territorial water.

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Jimmy Hui

Ricky Lim, for all your brilliance and in-depth knowledge of everything under the sky coupled with a great heart for the well being of Singaporeans, I can't help but think that you are also deeply programmed by the ruling party. As such you have lost your fairness as an observer in such politicking.

REACH 234 - With community cases on the rise and many new clusters, how you stay vigilant in the fight against the pandemic (SK)

21 May 2021 (11am - 7pm)

REACH

[9:03 am, 21/05/2021] +REACH: #ICYMI

➡️ Covid-19 vaccination centres step up safety measures as S'pore's community cases rise

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/vaccination-centres-step-up-safety-measures-as-community-cases-rise

➡️ MOH seeks 'light vaccination teams' to provide Covid-19 jabs for homebound persons

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/moh-seeks-light-vaccination-teams-to-provide-covid-19-jabs-for-homebound-persons

➡️ Man, 70, linked to TTSH cluster dies from Covid-19 complications

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/man-70-linked-to-ttsh-cluster-dies-from-covid-19-complications-0

➡️ Hougang HDB block residents to be tested for Covid-19 after cases found there

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/residents-of-hougang-block-to-be-tested-for-covid-19…

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[10:10 am, 21/05/2021] +REACH: 📢 Topic 📢 

💬 With the rise in community cases and new active clusters formed, how can we remain vigilant and emerge stronger as a community in our fight against the pandemic?  

The number of unlinked Covid-19 cases in Singapore has been going up steadily this month, giving rise to concerns that there are undetected reservoirs of infections in the community. There are currently 24 active clusters.

Mr Wong, the Finance Minister, said at the May 18 task force press conference that the rise in unlinked cases this month does not mean that measures are not working.

"In fact, I have confidence that the latest measures that we have put in place to restrict interactions and movement will have an impact in bringing numbers down. But we will only see this materialising one to two weeks later because of the time lag in these measures," he said, noting that the cases currently being detected were likely infected one or two weeks ago.

RECAP of the new measures & strategy for Singapore's vaccination programme:

• Those aged 40-44 years old can register for vaccinations from 19 May

•  Interval between the doses will be extended to 6-8 weeks, speeding up its COVID-19 vaccination rollout and prioritising first doses for more people to increase the nationwide coverage 

• Approval of Pfizer vaccine for those aged 12-15; Ministry of Education to provide an update soon.

• Primary 1 registration for 2022 will go online for second year in view of Covid-19

👉https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/75-unlinked-covid-19-cases-in-spore-in-past-2-weeks-raising-concerns 

👉  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/spore-delays-2nd-vaccine-dose-to-6-8-weeks-later-those-aged-40-44-can-register-for-jabs

👉https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/singapore-in-critical-period-of-covid-19-fight-infection-numbers-should-come-down

👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/delaying-2nd-dose-of-vaccine-will-not-impact-overall-protection-ong-ye-kung

👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/p1-registration-for-2022-starting-from-june-30

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[10:13 am, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: Don't understand.  Got all the symptoms of COVID liao, never see doc immediately

[10:14 am, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: Gov need to drive up communication to citizens. 

It is like we are at "war" with this virus. 

Need to communicate must see doc when not well

[10:14 am, 21/05/2021] +YT: Many are stubborn and not socially responsible.

[10:15 am, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Must be made to pay full medical charges without subsidy

[10:15 am, 21/05/2021] +YT: That's an immature society for you. Everything must government tell then can do. And all these idealistic people are fighting fighting freedom of speech, human rights etc., we aren't even ready yet. Population too immature and socially irresponsible.

[10:19 am, 21/05/2021] +Boon: A well-written ST article that reflect a number of views expressed here. 

https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/what-lies-beneath-the-unhappiness-over-covid-resurgence-in-spore

[10:20 am, 21/05/2021] +Jack: I think this is not fair to ask people to pay for full medical.. at first place why we open up so much that with not enough precautions which allow the virus to spread to community. You think people want to get virus? I think the individual need to be more self alert. With the current situation the people are lost job and lost of income. I think Gov should give more subsidy to give the people not to worry to visit doctor. Especially for those lost of income.

[10:22 am, 21/05/2021] +Boon: One key way to remain vigilant is to have open and mutually trustful communication between grassroots (like here) and the decision makers.

[10:28 am, 21/05/2021] +REACH: Covid-19 swabbing for about 120 households at Hougang block to start at 1pm

Barricades and chairs were being set up at the void deck of Block 506 Hougang Ave 8 on Friday (May 21) morning to prepare for a swabbing exercise slated to begin later today for the entire block. This is after some residents of the 12-storey block were found to have tested positive for Covid-19.

This is the first time an entire block of residents, comprising about 120 households, will be undergoing mandatory Covid-19 testing as a precautionary measure.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/covid-19-swabbing-for-about-120-households-at-hougang-block-to-start

[10:30 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: Reach > better bring a super loop hole up to the authorities

[10:30 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: A good start in the positive direction towards identifying and containment.

[10:30 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: u see this

[10:31 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: is ILLEGAL HITCH SERVOCES IN SINGAPORE AND LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS IN THE GROUP 4966 aka we have people that is riding transport aroudn the island the illegal way and this could be a means for the spread also

[10:32 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: is not even call car pooling

[10:33 am, 21/05/2021] +Vivian: There is someone went for test not getting result and went out

[10:33 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: from certain industry we had been asking authorities  to step in but also have negative replies

[10:33 am, 21/05/2021] +Vivian: Is there anyway to report the person?

[10:33 am, 21/05/2021] +Vivian: So irresponsible

[10:34 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: there are many of such groups in the social media whatsapp / telegram . is hard to catch but if the loop hole is not block in such times.... how is the war against the virus going to be overcome?

[10:34 am, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Lol

[10:35 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: please bring this up is the weakest link in the fight internally now

[10:51 am, 21/05/2021] +Dong Liang: Good to see this. Only way to stamp out the spread. People who are infected are victims, not criminals. They should be cared for and not made to feel ashamed. I'm sure they will be supported.

[10:53 am, 21/05/2021] +Dong Liang: Then people may never go and see a doctor, or will lie about when symptoms appeared

[10:53 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: why ppl have mindset they are criminal ..

[10:54 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: criminal are those who do not adhere to public advisory like please put on those MASK!!!!!!! STOP TALKING WIHTOUT YOUR MASK!!!!!!!

[10:54 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: those are really criminals and should be put to community works at NCD for 1 mth !

[10:54 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Totally agreed.

Non discrimination, all covid patients, please! 

How AIDS patients were discriminated?

[10:55 am, 21/05/2021] +Dong Liang: Agreed.

[10:55 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Great punitive idea... Put them on the FRONT LINE to understand the challenges l

[10:57 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Mass education campaign that...

"covid is a SEVERE FLU that required early treatments"

Never put FEAR and DEATH as the ultimate message..

[10:57 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: please dun used the word discriminate is over used and killed

[10:57 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: and in such time we still bother about what discrimination .. ?

[10:58 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: let's focus on how to untied this mental deadlock on many when and shoudl i see a doc

[10:58 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: and the most mental torment is how to get PPL in singapore to mask up and STOP Taking their mask off when talking

[10:58 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: and STOP TALKING WHEN IN ENCLOSED AREA LIKE TAXI / BUS / MRT

[10:58 am, 21/05/2021] +An fan: Ie there any statistics how many fully vaccinated people got infected last week without symptoms? And percentage to total vaccinated people?

[10:59 am, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: All in the news

[10:59 am, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: Someone need to go and count lor

[10:59 am, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: As if now, all in ICU were not jab

[10:59 am, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: *of

[10:59 am, 21/05/2021] +An fan: I think government should have it

[11:01 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: also companies are not enforcing strict rules to support this social mindset of working from home

[11:01 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: staff still can find stupid excuses to go office and work from the office

[11:01 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: May lead to that...

During SARS 2003, health care personnel were labelled danger....

[11:02 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: is a short term thing

[11:02 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: why focus on short term issues when there is a longer battle to fight

[11:02 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: not to say we dun make noise as long as it is attentioned off

[11:03 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: lets regroup and focus on the real battle

[11:03 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Covid is a long term issue.... We are perhaps in the early days now...

[11:03 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: cos after the war medical staff no longer is discrim

[11:03 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: they always get it when outbreak happen

[11:03 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Long war, beware....

[11:04 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: well since the so call population like to talk about discriminations den please dun discriminate taxi drives and deliveries also

[11:04 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: these are not LOW class job just because they are LOW paid

[11:04 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: without them society also cannot move in such time

[11:04 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Well agreed.

[11:05 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: and i say discriminate why because THIS IS A LONG TSANDING MINSET IN OUR SOCIETY !

[11:05 am, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Lol how about this?

[11:06 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Think globally, for one of human shortcomings is selfishness....

[11:06 am, 21/05/2021] +An fan: If the whole world do not dare to find the root cause of the virus COVID-sars-2, then there will always be variants of virus!

[11:07 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: '.. every idea is a resource towards a solution. This covid 19 is like a 24/7 MOVING goalpost, how to unified a range of perimeters, procedures and positions...'

[11:07 am, 21/05/2021] +Ken: No such thing as low class job… as long as earn without harming anyone. A job is a job.

[11:09 am, 21/05/2021] +Jack: 👍

[11:12 am, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Someone have to do it, due to circumstance be it they don’t have education or unable to find a better job. 

I applaud them, as they earn money with their hands than not doing anything and get social help.

[11:12 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: CDC mask guidelines could actually increase risk of spreading Covid at work

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/20/cdc-mask-guidelines-could-actually-increase-risk-of-spreading-covid-at-work-and-in-public-scientists-say.html?__source=androidappshare

[11:17 am, 21/05/2021] +REACH: NUS suspends exchange programme for inbound students after COVID-19 situation worsens

The National University of Singapore (NUS) has suspended its student exchange programme for incoming students following a rise in cases of COVID-19 here and the emergence of variant strains globally.

"The safety and well-being of our students is of utmost priority to NUS. As the COVID-19 pandemic situation worldwide remains volatile with the emergence of more infectious variant strains of the virus, the University will suspend all student exchange programmes for Academic Year 2021/22 Semester 1," NUS said.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid19-nus-suspends-exchange-programme-for-inbound-students-14855246

[11:20 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: How to clean air (not to purify)?

Open discussions.... every idea is a solution to the problem ... 

FACT: Bateria and virus can transit through air and droplets. 

Situation A

Open or partial confined space needs time to recirculate the air within the space, the larger these space (volume) the longer times it takes to clear the air. The ventilation is greater in these spaces of utility. 

Situation B

For confined space like an aircon environment, it may takes longer time  to clear the air within this blocked environment to an acceptable safety level. For bus or train, the early mode tends to have a higher airflow, a higher velocity and intermittent ventilation compare to a train cabin. In the case of a larger space like a train station, airport or mall, the ventilation is dependant on the airflow and its velocity. 

Will a HEPA filter system works? How long it takes for a full cycle cleansing? When to replace such a filter? What other large scale air cleaning system available? Air Extractors? 

Situation C

When we broaden both A & B environments to a city, a community or a building, the inter- buildings and the in-between open spaces will be the key in determining a lower or higher ventilated cluster of airflow that will have an impact to the velocity that will determine the cycles of flow on an hourly basis. Much research is needed to derive a confident model of air quality index, this case not haze nor pollutant but pathogens! Possible? 

For future city and town planners, the structured amenities, facilities and ecology will need a deeper thinking in terms of breathing space and importantly ventiation, seasonal wind conditions and the cycles of airflow to better prepare for future epidemics or other larger spread of diseases with it bateria or virus! Are the current space plannings meet the current/future situations? 

Summary

Situational (open, partial or confined), airflow, velocity (seasonal), ventilate and importantly the physical distance and VOLUME (lxbxh) speaks the loudest!

Afterwords:

Identifying the range of variables and challenges, we can proceed to check and eliminate these pointers to solve an existing problem or issue with a higher confidence of positive outcome.

Ventilation is like a Social Distancing initiative! SPACE is a nature given, free (not in a modern economics of space)! 

There is need to qualify and quantify a given SPACE from private to public whether is a toilet, a room, a building or a populated city!

[11:26 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: This CDC suggest may be DIVISIVED at ground zero.

However at the mandate level of achieving 100%  inoculation, perhaps is a SWEET spot for legislators to think about, one way to encourage a population to speed up the vaccination process.

Pres. Biden has a target of 4th July to achieve that.... Fyi

[11:28 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Divisive strategy may lead to discrimination...

Have Japped vs Have not

Let's think deeper.... discuss?

[11:33 am, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: MMTF - Min Wong, Min Gan, Min Ong, Honorable members 

Pointers for open discussions: 

'... every idea is a resource towards a solution. This covid 19 is like a 24/7 MOVING goalpost, how to unified a range of perimeters, procedures and positions...' 

What if a given community or country are highly inoculated with a specific vaccine. The immediate efficacy is a flatten infection numbers to a level of insignificant.

If one expands this achieved state of euphoria and transit into the next level of economics activities. Travelling, for proper purposes, other than vacations. Will the counter party (countries) accepts and endorses these arrivals into their physical space?

The assumption is these counter parties are low risk ones and unknown number of asymptomatics, mutually exclusively (travel bubble)?

Regardless of calculated models, geniuses on occasions are not fool proof! Over time and history when the world looks back, then one can verify lapses or successes. Meantime, it will be a fair game to all, the "rights" and "wrongs"... !

Given a perimeter, all things lying outside of this space are the WHAT IF and the unintended consequences. Therefore it is paramount to continuously investigate outside of this SECURED perimeters in order to minimise any miscalculated steps before it mushrooms into a larger bloom. 

Simply, nothing is bulletproof when dealing with this evolving organic pathogen-covid 19!

For any consequence comes an unintended one!  It is wiser to investigate the pros and cons before one hops onto the bandwagon! It will be even more simple minded to assume that one has found the ELIXIR to cure a disease! 

Afterwords:

Great leaders and winners LISTEN! 

Never talk down (critic or redicule) your neighbors, counter party or buddy; for each of them has a personal journey and challenges that each are facing. Only through comprehending, one will better understand these journeys! Meantime, the world is searching for a vacuum proof solution to covid 19, best to secure one's living (working /moving) space!

Asymptomatics vs Counter part risks

'Your immediate adversary and its enemies can be your potential buddy in benefits, though temporary because things always evolves!...' 

'... Be more liberal and accommodative, think rationally to avoid disputes.' 

-- Li Kashing 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

[11:34 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: is not is all self entitlement to think one is higher of other just because he got a better paid job, but dun forget we are slaves to each other ....even the BOsses and CEO are salves to the workers ..

[11:35 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: tell that to the society in singapore more and more are classifying .... but again like i say focus on the c19 battle first

[11:45 am, 21/05/2021] +Dong Liang: It won't really reveal very much

[11:45 am, 21/05/2021] +Dong Liang: 👍

[11:45 am, 21/05/2021] +Dong Liang: only now?

[11:48 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: is a joke right?

[11:48 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: if there are still in coming for the last 10 mths !

[11:48 am, 21/05/2021] +Valli: Agree.  Why took so long ?

[11:49 am, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: Well willing students, willing uni

[11:49 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: This is very close to my place.

[11:49 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: if that is the reason the more society have to eat up the vomit and carry on

[11:49 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: carry on to live with covid

[11:49 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: seriously

[11:49 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: The money is too good?

[11:50 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: dun always use economy as a reason .. society breaks there are more den the economy can support in such times

[11:50 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: Unfortunately,  thinking globally won't fill their stomachs

[11:50 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: this battle have to be a well craft one

[11:51 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: Many of these are low wage workers who are paid by the hour.  No work means no pay. No pay No bread on the table

[11:51 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: where socially it well fortified while still ensuring basic market still move ......

[11:51 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: For them is die of starvation or covid first

[11:51 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: Our rich poor gap is getting worse over the years

[11:52 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: I don't really blame this pple sometimes

[11:52 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: They always get the sharp end of the stick

[11:52 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: I think out elites are too detached from these people's realities already

[11:53 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: like yesterday new

[11:53 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: So maybe the ministers don't understand.

[11:53 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: 6 staff from a store got hit by c19 wow that is a concern

[11:53 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: Fining this pple to making them pay full costs is only gonna make it worse

[11:53 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: but the next line i read with disgust (personally)

[11:53 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: boss says looses due to store close is close to 100K

[11:54 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: is like u telling ppl how poor u will be with the store closed due to the 6 workers !

[11:54 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: what mindset is that

[11:54 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: U just see what rhe st publishes and u cN get a good idea what is on the mind of the ministers. If it keeps reporting about economic losses then u know where the priority is at

[11:55 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: i agree we need the eco to be alive , but look at it now

[11:55 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: Because he still has to pay for the shop rent and salaries of the 6 workers

[11:55 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: He  can fire them for the time being  but then they will die of starvation first before covid

[11:56 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: Problems are usually more complex

[11:56 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: no need to say that in the paper right

[11:56 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: Ask the boss to pay them full pay indefinitely also not a solution

[11:56 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: U should wonder why ST reports such stuff

[11:56 am, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: every one knows everyone business is suffering espically non food

[11:56 am, 21/05/2021] +Fulgrim: They do edit it. Hahaja

[11:58 am, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

So many bad news - bad for humanity.

But remember LKY once said, no one encounter more bad news than me since independence - British withdrawal, Malaysia kick us out, communalism, communism, racial riots etc.

And not only we survive, but we emerge stronger.

So I think if we as humanity can hold on there, persevere, I think finally we can see light at the end of the tunnel.

[11:59 am, 21/05/2021] +Daphne See: Hi can I know what do u all use to sanitise food items?

[11:59 am, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Cook it well.

[11:59 am, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: Cooked it

[0:00 pm, 21/05/2021] +Daphne See: I mean the packaging

[0:00 pm, 21/05/2021] +Daphne See: If u buy from outside or order delivery

[0:01 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: Heat up the food

[0:01 pm, 21/05/2021] +Daphne See: The plastic bags leh.

[0:02 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: dun think so much

[0:03 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: if like that u make life more stressful for yourself

[0:03 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Initially, my wife is paranoid to wash all the plastic and packaging.

Then I told her, this is too paranoid.

Forget it.

Just throw away the packaging, wash your hands and eat the food.

[0:04 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: yeah

[0:04 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: agree why make life so difficult else all our clothes is wear one time burn one time

[0:04 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: den ppl will say 7th month come early

[0:04 pm, 21/05/2021] +Daphne See: Why I ask cos I read this article

[0:04 pm, 21/05/2021] +Daphne See: https://sg.theasianparent.com/why-the-new-covid-19-strain-is-attacking-children-what-parents-must-know

[0:05 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: read everything with a pinch of salt not all that is in the media is valid

[0:05 pm, 21/05/2021] +Daphne See: So now I scratch head how to sanitise food items🤔

[0:05 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: at this age and times have to copy and paste mentally all the information and see which is good for oneself

[0:07 pm, 21/05/2021] +Daphne See: Yalor. Think don't read too much into it la hor

[0:08 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: think what is good for your family

[0:08 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: families like humans have different living conditions

[0:08 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: wait u make too clean they lagi easily fall sick

[0:08 pm, 21/05/2021] +Daphne See: Exactly!

[0:09 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

https://www.thewackyduo.com/2021/05/full-list-of-schools-and-case-details.html

Full-list-of-schools-and-case-details of covid-19 in Singapore

[0:09 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

25 schools affected

[0:09 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Huh?

So many...

This strain is really bad for young children.

Better to get the children vaccinated.

[0:09 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

There are many below 12 years old students got infected.

There are also quite a number of above 12 years old infected.

Only those 12 to 15 years old can vaccinate - but not those below 12 years old.

[0:12 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

mRNA is a very safe vaccines as compared to others.

It stay in the body for a very short time.

Billion doses have been administered worldwide.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/covid-19-vaccines-pfizer-moderna-side-effects-astrazeneca-204923661.html

[0:13 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiRWh0dHBzOi8vc2cubmV3cy55YWhvby5jb20vd2h5LWNvdmlkLWtpbGxpbmctbWFueS15b3VuZy0xNTE1Mzc1NDQuaHRtbNIBTWh0dHBzOi8vc2cubmV3cy55YWhvby5jb20vYW1waHRtbC93aHktY292aWQta2lsbGluZy1tYW55LXlvdW5nLTE1MTUzNzU0NC5odG1s?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

[0:14 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

An unvaccinated 70 years old man die from covid complications.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/70-year-old-singaporean-man-warded-ttsh-dies-covid-19-complications-death-tally-hits-32

[0:15 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

1. I will envisage a scenario whereby :-

a. Majority will get vaccinated.

b. Minority who either refuse or medically ineligible to vaccinate - are not vaccinated.

c. Covid as a result of global vaccination reaching herd immunity will turn into seasonal flu.

d. Those who are vaccinated will only get mild symptoms from covid.

e. Those who are not vaccinated will face a risk of more serious illness from covid.

f. End up, Compulsory Vaccination maybe mandated for those unvaccinated people that are medically eligible to be vaccinated to prevent serious illness from covid.

g. For those unvaccinated people who are medically ineligible, non-mRNA vaccines must be used to prevent serious illness from covid.

[0:16 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/current-covid-19-vaccines-appear-protective-against-variants-who-europe-says

[0:24 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: ooorhhh in media liao

[0:24 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: but is carpooling

[0:24 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: th eone i share is PAID PTE HITCH (paid car pooling)!

[0:24 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: both same same idea

[0:25 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: change name but contents still the same

[0:25 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: Union leaders, health authorities to discuss ways to boost healthcare workers' welfare

Union leaders have been collecting feedback from healthcare workers amid the recent surge in Covid-19 cases and will be discussing with the Ministry of Health and hospital management on how to look after their welfare during this stressful period.

"(We will) discuss with them on how we can further improve our processes and support measures to look after the well-being of our front-line workers, not only in Tan Tock Seng Hospital (TTSH) but across different healthcare institutions," National Trades Union Congress deputy secretary-general Chee Hong Tat said in a Facebook post on Friday (May 21).

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/union-leaders-health-authorities-to-discuss-ways-to-boost-healthcare-workers-welfare

[0:25 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

WHO final words :-

"Mass vaccination maybe a light at the end of the tunnel".

But we must not be blinded by it.

1. Currently Singapore is experiencing a 2nd wave.

2. To stop this wave, we must first :-

- do social distancing

- stop virus host jumping

- ring-fence it

- stop our current wave

- our mass vaccination has not reach herd immunity, we must ramp up

Only then we can re-emerge from the pandemic.

[0:26 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: they used to have standard booking for cabs at the door steps well get the hospital to go back this scheme why must used GRAB

[0:27 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: cheap for ur wallet but u sure there are accountability and tracibility

[0:28 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: taxi regardless which companies there is sop to follow

[0:28 pm, 21/05/2021] +Valli: My wish

One vaccine to protect from all forms of disease

[0:30 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: @+REACHnow is phase 3?

[0:30 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

https://www.gov.sg/article/update-on-covid-19-vaccination-programme-and-guidance-on-the-use-of-masks

Update on COVID-19 vaccination programme and guidance on the use of masks

[0:30 pm, 21/05/2021] +An fan: Taxi can only hold up to 4 or 5 people. MRT and buses. There is no proper social distancing. And very difficult to track

[0:34 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Singapore has done well to vaccinate our population.

1. 1.4 million received 2 jabs.

2. 2 million received 1 jab.

Our total population is 5.6 million.

Only 30% is vaccinated.

We still have quite a long way to go.

We need to "add oil" (jia you).

[0:37 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: pls open SINOVAC

[0:37 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: do we need to create a petition ?

[0:37 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Testing still ongoing as data insufficient

[0:38 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: No need

[0:38 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

China Sinopharm efficacy call into question.

UAE offer booster shot of different vaccine made.

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiELVP0boX0UoGsM6BCbDwDsoqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowief2CjCJ2dUCMNvwrAU?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

[0:39 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: then jab  the rNA one lor

[0:40 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: when the stocks become more available for all

[0:40 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/who-experts-voice-very-low-confidence-in-some-sinopharm-covid-19-14748910

WHO experts voice 'very low confidence' in some Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine data

[0:40 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

China health official raise questions of China vaccines inefficacy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/china-vaccine-efficacy-not-high-gao/2021/04/11/dafe3ab6-9a8f-11eb-8f0a-3384cf4fb399_story.html

[0:40 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

China health official admitted that China vaccines may not be effective and need to mix with other vaccines.

China partner BioNTech to make mRNA vaccines.

China developing its own mRNA vaccines.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-56713663

[0:42 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Let MOH to determine the effectiveness of Sinovac.

So far not very good efficacy reports coming up.

[0:42 pm, 21/05/2021] +An fan: If we open this, there should be terms and conditions. Take at your own risk. As I do not think there’s enough test information released.

[0:42 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Agree

[0:43 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Since yesterday, MOH is stretching the nRNA vaccines from 3 to 4 weeks to 6 to 8 weeks.

So more people can get their 1st jab first.

[0:45 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: China's Sinovac Covid-19 vaccine found highly effective in real world study

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/chinas-sinovac-covid-19-vaccine-found-highly-effective-in-real-world-study

[0:46 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: \why not do it the same way we do when deciding our Ministers' welfare/pay package? Benchmark against the industries we want to attract the talents from, then from that pool of candidates, select those who are not only doing it for the monetary reward?

[0:47 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: benchmark with nurses who work in private clinic and hospital?

[0:48 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Let MOH decides and do its job.

Eventually, those people who cannot jab the mRNA vaccines due to allergies may have to rely on Sinovac.

But this could be the minority.

[0:49 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: the minority can cause a cluster, like the ICA oficer....

[0:50 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

But at least Sinovac can reduce hospitalisation and death for those who can't take mRNA vaccines.

[0:50 pm, 21/05/2021] +An fan: Heard they were all vaccinated by chinese vaccines. And the news wouldn’t tell you that. If they took other countries’ vaccines,definitely it would have written.

[1:47 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevin: https://twitter.com/straits_times/status/1395597022648958980?s=24

[1:50 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Vaccines in UK limit B1617 spread.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3134082/coronavirus-variant-india-not-spreading-quickly-feared-britain

UK increasingly confident COVID-19 vaccines work against Indian variant

[1:50 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/indian-variants-transmissibility-edge-might-be-smaller-than-feared-uk-expert-2021-05-19/

Indian-variants-transmissibility-edge-might-be-smaller-than-feared-uk-expert

[1:50 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/transmissibility-edge-of-variant-from-india-might-be-smaller-than-feared-uk-expert-says

Indian-variants-transmissibility-edge-might-be-smaller-than-feared-uk-expert

[1:50 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/australia-doctors-warn-covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-sitting-ducks-14847254

Australian people vaccine hesitancy - is a "sitting ducks" ---- a lesson not learn from India.

[1:51 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Quite a powerful strain… hope that is does not upgrade further 😥

[1:56 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

This B1617 will be a dominant strain that will drive out all other strains in the World.

Having say so, the current mRNA vaccines are still effective against it - not perfectly - but still good enough.

I think vaccines suppliers are watching its evolution carefully.

If it evolve further until our current vaccines become less effective, a 3rd booster maybe used.

mRNA is a good technique that can be customised easily to adapt to such mutations.

Also mRNA is not harmful to human body - as it stay in the body for a short period and then immune system will easily overwhelm it.

[1:59 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: The last sentence.. we are not expert cannot say. 

“The current data suggests that the currently approved mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective for the vast majority of the population. “

https://pssjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13037-021-00291-9

[2:00 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Until present, the FDA has not issued any explicit guidelines regarding the use of COVID-19 vaccines in pregnant women. Rather, the FDA refers to pregnant women in the EUA letters and factsheets provided to healthcare providers for the individual vaccines. The EUA letters for both the Moderna and the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines contain provisions obliging post-authorization observational studies and label pregnant women as a “population of interest” for these studies, citing a lack of data regarding vaccine risk in pregnancy. The Moderna vaccine fact sheet specifically alludes to a reproductive toxicity study in female rats; adverse effects on fetal development, female fertility, and early offspring development were assessed, with no adverse outcomes observed. …

[2:03 pm, 21/05/2021] +Anne: Nobody knows what are the LONG TERM side effects. These vaccines alter our cells. These are some big concerns for some of us. When our G says that the mRNA vaccines are safe this is based on the existing data we have and these only record side effects that manifest in the short term.

[2:03 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: just like plastic... 🤣

[2:05 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: ......compared to the well-known and well-document IMMEDIATE effects of catching Covid 19 ... Hmmm .....

[2:07 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: well-documented*

[2:07 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Medical experts say mRNA don't alter human cells.

[2:09 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-mrna-megamix-idUSL1N2M61HW

mRNA don't alter

[2:09 pm, 21/05/2021] +Anne: They PROGRAM our cells to produce spike proteins of the virus. This is not called alteration of our cells?!?

[2:09 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Program our cells?????

[2:10 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Not really… is a code that ask our body to product things that if not used by the body will regard as rubbish and will be eliminated

[2:10 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Produce”

[2:10 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: When they learn how next time it comes in will attack the protein thinking as rubbish..

[2:10 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: That’s roughly how our body works in terms of immune system

[2:11 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: DNA to mRNA to Protein 

mRNA is not stable hence need very cold to store it

[2:12 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Worth investigating

[2:12 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Worth thinking too...

[2:13 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: mRNA will not merge into our DNA

[2:13 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Is different system.

[2:13 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/qanon-anti-vax-covid-vaccine-conspiracy-theory-1125197/

Read too much of Trump support base - the QAnon conspiracy group theories - poison worldwide people minds - and cause harm to stop this covid pandemic.

[2:16 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: So the mRNA is use to produce the virus protein for our body to recognize the protein to cut

[2:16 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: While the challenge of the earlier generations, is gaining access to knowledge and information, the curse of the current generation living in the "Information Age", is the constant battle against misinformation and misdirection.

[2:18 pm, 21/05/2021] +Anne: Actually we shouldn’t be so confident that the mRNA does not alter our DNA.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33330870/

Reverse transcriptase is an enzyme that can convert RNA to DNA. This enzyme can be found in some patients.

[2:19 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: 😅 lol yah you are right there… reverse transcription does exist…

[2:19 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: There is odds of happening if there is enough people taking 😅

[2:20 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Regardless of calculated models, geniuses on occasions are not fool proof! Over time and history when the world looks back, then one can verify lapses or successes. Meantime, it will be a fair game to all, the "rights" and "wrongs"... !

[2:22 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: We are made up of virus and bacteria whatever.. hence our genomic have so many redundant genes… genetic still a black box for most of science. 

Silence gene are still not well studied

[2:22 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Given a perimeter, all things lying outside of this space are the WHAT IF and the unintended consequences. Therefore it is paramount to continuously investigate outside of this SECURED perimeters in order to minimise any miscalculated steps before it mushrooms into a larger bloom.

[2:23 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html

mRNA Vaccines

[2:26 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: This is way too simple lol…

Anyway there is always a what if.. we can only trust, what the world think is acceptable. If don’t take you might not able to travel, might fall sick etc. 

If half take half don’t take… that’s the worst for both side of the party . 🤦🏻

[2:28 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: 2 men fined for gambling with cards at hawker centre during COVID-19 pandemic, 5 for gathering to watch

Seven men were fined S$2,500 each on Friday (May 21) for breaking COVID-19 social regulations for gambling with cards at a hawker centre or gathering around to watch. The incident took place before midnight on Jun 4 last year at the hawker centre at Toa Payoh.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-men-fined-gambling-cards-hawker-centre-gathering-14856128

[2:28 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/mrna-reverse-transcription-dna-concern-christian-van-den-bos

mRNA – reverse transcription into DNA is not a concern

[2:28 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: The world government have to decide on the same path..

Or else half done countermeasures will be counter productive. Even yield a stronger variant

[2:28 pm, 21/05/2021] +james: Agreed!

[2:33 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Actually we shouldn’t be so confident that the mRNA does not alter our DNA.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33330870/

Reverse transcriptase is an enzyme that can convert RNA to DNA. This enzyme can be found in some patients.

Like what Anne had said if the person have this protein… it is possible it be convert to DNA lol

[2:34 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: First of all, I'm NOT against the global vaccination initiatives. 

Many might misunderstood my meaning of "QUIK FIX sometimes may not be THE BEST FIT" days ago...

FACT, Bill Gates has been championing vaccines, the mRNA and its efficacy to humanity since 2015. 

What I suggest is to always be INVESTIGATIVE so that we can come up with a STEADY way out of the "burning forest, chocked but minor burned" ..

[2:36 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: It is a research article lol… that is comment the person is what background?

[2:36 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

WHO and many Government medical bodies - have determined that mass vaccination is the best foot forward.

We are now facing are global pandemic crisis.

We either take steps to stop it - by taking the mass vaccination as prescribed.

Or we go the India way.

[2:38 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: When DNA fragment are created, there is chance that it get incorporated into plasmid.

Which then there is higher chance for us to get it in to our system.

[2:38 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: All is chance.. so that’s is why the study was interesting and gets publish

[2:39 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Well let WHO and medical world bodies decides.

They are more credible and won't have prescribed something unsafe for human mankind.

[2:40 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Yah that’s is why we can only trust what is done acceptable globally.. 

Cause we know all the what if… but who can decide lol.. only the majority.

[2:41 pm, 21/05/2021] +james: They don’t have a good track record. Just saying

[2:41 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

That's why at the back of our mind we could be worrying - but let experts do the worrying.

We just do as told.

[2:42 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: The problem comes where no government want to mandate the vaccination… hence the effort will be wasted. Specially in 3rd countries which can continue to house such virus and give it enough time your vaccine might not work again

[2:42 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Well their records at expert level is better than any of us out there.

[2:43 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Haha.. that I agree to a certain extend.. but that’s what we have next to nothing

[2:44 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Yes.

That's why no one is safe - until everyone is safe.

We are not only combating covid that impact our health safety.

We are also combating the opposing anti-vaxx force - that pose a great threat to derail the world mass vaccination programme that is design to help humanity defeat this covid pandemic.

[2:45 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Appropriate Slogan - No one is safe unless everyone is safe.

[2:46 pm, 21/05/2021] +Anne: Agree. Look at how the EMA and WHO handled the AZ vaccine saga in Europe. When people after vaccinating started getting blood clots EMA and WHO kept on insisting there was no link of the blood clots to the vaccines. Even as the number of cases started mounting they continue burying their ostrich heads in the sand. Then 2 independent teams of scientists, one based in Germany and one in Norway, decided to investigate whether the vaccines cause the blood clots. Both teams found traces the blood clots to the vaccines. After this then the EMA began admitting there is a link.

You trust these health authorities?

[2:46 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

In this pandemic, we are fighting at 2 fronts :-

1. Defeat the covid with vaccines.

2. Defeat the anti-vaxx group that are poisoning the people's mind - to receive the vaccination that are supposed to save humanity from this covid-19.

[2:47 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

And you are the pseudo anti-vaxx figure in REACH.

[2:47 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Occasionally, I think out of the perimeter (box being 100% herd immunity)

One, top 20 countries 100% vaccinated.

Two, these 20 countries open to each other for trades and travel of all sorts...

Three, what if these 20 clusters countries travellers are asymptomatics? Meaning all are protected from covid but are "passive carriers" of this pathogen loads "...

How the other countries views this 20 (box)?

[2:48 pm, 21/05/2021] +Anne: I am just talking facts. Now you resort to name calling?

[2:48 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: She is informed and share facts 😅

[2:49 pm, 21/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Found out by you 🤭

[2:49 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: From the information she shared she has a higher level of understand of biological science 😅

[2:49 pm, 21/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Last year she mentioned vaccine got dead foetus cells

[2:49 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: This article can share if you have?

[2:50 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

You can don't vaccinate if you have so much fear.

But don't bring in anti-vaxx message from anti-vaxx conspiracy group - to frighten people from mass vaccination.

You are working against the WHO global efforts and our MOH efforts to defeat this covid.

[2:50 pm, 21/05/2021] +Anne: The mRNA used cell lines of aborted fetuses in their manufacturing.

[2:50 pm, 21/05/2021] +Anne: * mRNA vaccines

[2:51 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: That was old technology… is it still used now 😅

[2:51 pm, 21/05/2021] +Anne: It’s more like a series of articles.. very tedious to share

[2:51 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Primary cell lines are not stable.. don’t think they will use it

[2:51 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180124-the-enduring-appeal-of-conspiracy-theories

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/why-people-latch-on-to-conspiracy-theories-according-to-science

https://allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2020/09/enduring-appeal-conspiracy-theories-what-can-be-done/

[2:52 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: ... every idea is a resource towards a solution. This covid 19 is like a 24/7 MOVING goalpost,

[2:53 pm, 21/05/2021] +Anne: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/vatican-roman-catholics-covid-19-vaccine-aborted-foetus-13818386

[2:54 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Covid is a virus… which the strategy of its survival is ever changing 😅

We know this day will come just when… anyway Covid no where near diseases X. This is a very good opportunity to learn how to fight it. Hence countries are learning how so didn’t just let it go like common flu.

[2:53 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: Mis-trust steers many to embrace Mis-information

[2:54 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

That's why Trump base and his QAnon conspiracy groups are so enduring.

[2:55 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: The American bishops said the vaccines employed cell lines drawn from tissue obtained from two abortions that took place in the 1960s and 1970s and that often have been replicated since.

Means they are immortalize cell lines.. in a way haha, people care about something so long ago..

[2:56 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: All cell lines comes from someone in way back

[2:56 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Haiz humans

[2:57 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: My faith has been restore

[2:57 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Look at this complex chart we are fighting against.

Do we still want to doubt vaccines this, vaccines that?

[2:57 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Hela died so long… she is being replicated till no end.. 

Some say she never die… cause her body lives on forever in contribution to science and gain nothing

[2:58 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Human donate tissue, organs, bloods etc what.

[2:58 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Not donate

[2:58 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Was use without her consent lol

[2:58 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Early days in science no ethics ones

[2:58 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Ken & Anne make good sense....

Let vaccines sales people and Gates do the rest of the known  (koyok) speeches... 

MEANTIME, let's brainstorm what's UNKNOWN and try to turn all of our stones...

[2:59 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Woman give birth to baby  - are all human cells that are pass down since ancient times.

[3:00 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: A case was fight… 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02494-z

[3:00 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

The moment we do vaccines hesitancy - we go India way.

Which one we want to choose?

[3:01 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Definitely not India way

[3:01 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: But it does not go well with humans.. haha moral issues.. 🤷🏻‍♂️

In science we do for life science… killing is normal 

I kill no less than 4 to 5 million flies for science 

I have friends kill 100s to 200s mice in the name of science

[3:02 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: All the meds comes from somewhere.. someone has to die for it to go through test

[3:02 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Yes

[3:02 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

So we should do mass vaccination and not doubt vaccines this, vaccines that.

The moment we inject fear into our population vaccines sceptism - we go India way.

[3:03 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: I am with you on this

[3:03 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Yes.. which either you mandate if not that will not end well..

[3:03 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

That's why eventually we may end up with mandatory vaccination.

[3:04 pm, 21/05/2021] +james: this is a simplistic way of looking at "anti-vaxxers".

among this group... you'll find long-time advocates for vaccines who are now just raising concerns over the current vaccines that are being rolled out in mass.

they want the good for humanity as well. it's just that they feel an obligation to raise concerns as they see fit. 

so PLS stop trying to silence opposing voices

[3:04 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: From science we learn something.. drag on like this is not gonna end well..

[3:04 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

1. I will envisage a scenario whereby :-

a. Majority will get vaccinated.

b. Minority who either refuse or medically ineligible to vaccinate - are not vaccinated.

c. Covid as a result of global vaccination reaching herd immunity will turn into seasonal flu.

d. Those who are vaccinated will only get mild symptoms from covid.

e. Those who are not vaccinated will face a risk of more serious illness from covid.

f. End up, Compulsory Vaccination maybe mandated for those unvaccinated people that are medically eligible to be vaccinated to prevent serious illness from covid.

g. For those unvaccinated people who are medically ineligible, non-mRNA vaccines must be used to prevent serious illness from covid.

[3:04 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Hope for mandatory vaccination

[3:06 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: There is a flip side.. after vaccinated but the virus mutate enough that vaccine now no longer useful. 

Hopefully people continue to trust.. anyway if this path is set means we will take vaccine non stop in our lifetime

[3:06 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

There is no perfect solution - because virus is dynamic and keep evolving.

By the time, you discover something, it will has already mutated and become something else.

If medical science keep wanting to find perfection - the whole population will have been wiped out.

[3:06 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Is a path of no return…

[3:06 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Vaccine will evolve to follow suit as virus mutates along the way

[3:07 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Nature vs human lol… we shall see

[3:07 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Yes

[3:09 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

We are not silencing opposing views.

We have to make everyone vaccinated to emerge from this crisis.

We only want to stop people injecting fear and stopping people from vaccinating - when the whole world is set to mass vaccinate the world population.

The current anti-vaxx group is trying to stop this initiative - and broadcasting half-truths information to discredit the efforts.

This is what I want to fight against.

[3:11 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Sharing real information so that we can improve - is welcome and should be encouraged.

But conspiracy groups have a different sinister objective - to destroy human mankind.

Then we must up in arm against it.

[3:12 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

That's why you notice I don't dispute Ken sharing of his knowledge.

[3:12 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Cause is not mandatory… people have a choice. We share what is available and we understand all risk involved

[3:13 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: I understood the risk and choose to take cause I think is the best cause of action

[3:13 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Either all don’t take or all take

[3:13 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Likewise

[3:13 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: One should ask why ours jap rate is hoovering at 30%?

One reason may be the daily cases are in two digits range, the other 50% taking a less urgent way out. Sitting and watching the world figures and ours - decides?

[3:13 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Half half is the worst

[3:14 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

All medications come with side effects.

Doctors prescribed and we take it knowing there will be some risks.

Same as this covid vaccine.

[3:14 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: 80-20 will be positive start

[3:14 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Due to work opportunities, and reduce risk of infection. 

But traveling really is last on the list. We need economic back on track 😭

[3:15 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: 2023?

[3:15 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Yes

[3:15 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Think more than that 😅

[3:15 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: 2025 I am thinking

[3:16 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Hope that I am wrong

[3:16 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Our SIA?

[3:16 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: They can still fly goods

[3:16 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Logistic doing well now

[3:17 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Flight attendants are the poor thing ones as well as ground staff

[3:17 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Likewise

[3:18 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Since cannot travel please have more kids 🤣

[3:19 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: WFH plus cannot travel what better time to have kids

[3:19 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[3:22 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: Its one thing to challenge and question when one has the requisite knowledge and expertise... its quite another, when one questions AND REJECTS facts/science out of ignorance and unfounded skepticism

[3:26 pm, 21/05/2021] +james: some will tell you it's the WFH experience that is causing more tension and challenges at home. leading to some not wanting more kids. that's the sad reality.

[3:27 pm, 21/05/2021] +james: While efforts have been made to encourage a family-oriented society, not enough has been done to make fertility an important national mission in the minds of Singaporeans. 

An identity which recognises that just as the country belongs to us, so too does its future, and thus, the responsibility for making that future a reality. 

Singapore manages to defy the odds in many ways. Forging a path to natural population growth will not be easy, but it is possible. 

Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/voices/boost-fertility-rate-making-it-national-mission-and-carving-distinct-sporean-identity-will-be?cid=telegram_tg-single_social-free_26012019_today

[3:27 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Hmm.. I guess so.. I have MIL to help… reduce lots of pressure

[3:29 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: True having kids is not easy.. 

I still old mind set haha. Kids is a must have for complete life. 

May not be the most comfortable or easy choice. But is the right one for future of the country for the happiness of the family which acts as a glue for couples. (In most case)

[3:29 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: If not we want just a country with all foreigners? I don’t mind them naturalize. As long as they take up our primary school do what we do.

[3:30 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevin: https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/30-new-cases-of-locally-transmitted-covid-19-infection_21May2021

[3:35 pm, 21/05/2021] +Simon: 👍

[3:39 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: Additional $27 million of support for cabbies, private-hire drivers amid 'significant' fall in ridership

Private-hire car and taxi drivers will receive additional daily cash support from this week till the end of June, as the Government has set aside an additional $27 million to support them amid a significant drop in ridership during the current heightened alert period.

In total, drivers will receive $25 per vehicle per day, up from the existing $15 per vehicle per day. This works out to $750 per vehicle per month until the end of June.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/additional-27-million-of-support-for-cabbies-private-hire-drivers-amid-significant-fall-in

[3:39 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Every help is welcome

[3:48 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: 30 new Covid-19 community cases in S'pore, including 8 unlinked

There were 40 new Covid-19 cases, including 30 in the community, as at noon on Friday (May 21), said the Ministry of Health (MOH). Of the community cases, eight are currently unlinked.

The remaining 22 are linked to previous cases. Among them, 16 had already been quarantined.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/30-new-covid-19-community-cases-in-spore-including-8-unlinked

[3:51 pm, 21/05/2021] +Dong Liang: Unliked case is going up again, this is worrying.

[3:51 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: 🤦‍♀️😔😞

[3:55 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: I think more people who are not well went to see doc

[3:55 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: so more test, discover more

[3:55 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: maybe Gov can share the numbers of people went for swab due to not well

[3:55 pm, 21/05/2021] +Timothy Low: Just curious why are short term

Visitors still allowed in Singapore?

[3:56 pm, 21/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Agreed

[3:58 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

So many community cases.

So many unlink.

So isn't it worrying.

All the more, we must be unified to take the right approach to emerge from this wave.

All the more be cautious not to let misinformation derail our efforts to get the mass vaccinated to protect everyone.

[3:58 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

32 has died - all unvaccinated.

[3:58 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Many in ICU are unvaccinated.

[3:59 pm, 21/05/2021] +Jack: I think more unlink could be cause by the prob of trace together token. Some people might use until the until it battery die off still nv change. I have the experience, didn’t noticed it actually die off. Luckily I use my phone most of the time

[4:02 pm, 21/05/2021] +Valli: Yes this should stop for the time being.

[4:04 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Noose needs to be tightened further

[4:07 pm, 21/05/2021] +65 9617 1577: Probably those unvaccinated in ICUs would be be already immuno-compromised and cannot safely tolerate the vaccine…

[4:09 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: all TTSH doctors and nurse first to get full vaccination in January...kena also

TTSH cluster....KFC...NTUC....all vaccinated

A friend asking for answer? Anyone who is medically trained can share? I will revert to my friend...

[4:09 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Maybe.

That's why for those who are medically eligible, go for vaccination.

Don't hesitate.

Because if anyone infected later, it will be too late.

For those who are allergic to mRNA, non-mRNA vaccines need to be explored to protect them.

[4:13 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: First of all .. NOT ALL VACINATED ... infected ones include fully vaccinated individuals

2ndly, New mutation/strain ... its already a known risk .. that is the nature of such viruses ... it mutates, and obviously the ones that survive and get transferred - infects - another host, is the one that evaded the vaccine successfully

[4:14 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: There is no conspiracy here .. sorry to disappoint your friend👆

[4:15 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Thanks for sharing, I copy to my friend now.

[4:23 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Joseph, thanks for your medical explanations.

Will each type/version of vaccine administered over short time will further mutation into another strain?

Or a given unvaccinated or partially vaccinated population, it will also mutate a new strain?

Thanks again, your view..

[4:26 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Perhaps the above 2 questions may be helpful in educating our communities at large.... Clear doubts etc

Many of us are not medically trained or have little knowledge of pathogens etc...

Thanks

[4:30 pm, 21/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: 👏🏻👍🏻

[4:32 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Will each type/version of vaccine administered over short time will further mutation into another strain?

Short answer yes it will continue to mutate as that’s is virus key survival traits. How fast no one know actually. 

Or a given unvaccinated or partially vaccinated population, it will also mutate a new strain?

Vaccination don’t cause the virus to mutate. Mutations happen naturally. 

When population is immune to a certain strain; as the virus continue to spread in the population that are not vaccinated. The ones that mutate enough to have next generation has a better chance to survive. If happen that mutated ones able to infect vaccinated individuals, over time the best version will spread within the community. Hence the rise of the mutated strain.

[4:32 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

https://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/post-vaccine-infections-are-be-expected-say-experts

Post-vaccine infections are to be expected, say experts

[4:35 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: On partial vaccination- it help the body have prepare a set of tools to cut the virus protein. 

Hence the infected will get less ill. As compare to those not exposed to the virus before.

[4:38 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Joseph & Ken...

Maybe both of you can summerise into Layman words to Educate OUR COMMUNITIES. 

I appreciate your good explanations...

REACH may come up with 2 minutes video on YouTube etc to Educate and Engage... Our communities.

[4:39 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: This will be great

[4:40 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: 2 minutes of.... 

FACTS

Challenges(Explanations) 

SOLUTION

[4:41 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Update version of video MUST be at hand... Because we are dealing with this MOVING GOALPOST - covid

[4:41 pm, 21/05/2021] +CQ: lol! Joseph and Ken kena arrow to do a 2 minute presso to CEO. :P

[4:41 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: 😅🤣😂👍👌

[4:42 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: There is no full proof solution…

If not there won’t be diease anymore. 😅

I share Based on my understanding with 5 years in life science. I do work on virus before for research purposes. 

But I am chem engineer 🤣🤣

[4:42 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Danny too, Ben, Rama,  CQ....

ALL FOR ONE GOOD...

GOODNESS FOR ALL

[4:42 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Yes

[4:42 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

I not qualified.

I am not in medical field.

[4:43 pm, 21/05/2021] +CQ: lol! scatter shotgun fired! :P

[4:43 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: So don’t find me..  find better expert like PhD 🤣

[4:43 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Doesn't matter.... Chem engineer also an asset too...

USE WHAT WE HAVE TO THE FULLEST...

every idea is a step forward to a solution...

[4:43 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: 😨😱😔😞

[4:43 pm, 21/05/2021] +CQ: i'm no medical expert, just a lawyer who was a doctor-wannabe. :P

[4:44 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: 🤣

[4:44 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Come on, Mr Rama...

Let's show good example of TAKING OWNERSHIP OF WHAT WE BELIEVE IS GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY....

ALL FOR ONE & ONE FOR ALL

[4:45 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Ken is an asset in SCRIPT proofing and grammar correcting....

So Mr lawyer , come on....

[4:46 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Is REACH listening our aspirations?

2 min Video?

[4:46 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Lol.. please my wife always complaint about my English 🤣🤣

This platform for me to practice English

[4:47 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: So powerful team..

CHEM

Law

Medical

[4:48 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Ken, do it!!! Yeh!

[4:49 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: No time to shy...

Let's stand out, tall and do some good things.... Chatting is the first step, actions will be next...

Let's volunteer....

United, we fight this on (covid)

MAJULAH!!!

[4:53 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: 43 out of 19,000 airport workers test positive for Covid-19; source likely worker who helped infected passengers from South Asia

Another 10 airport workers have tested positive for Covid-19 in a special testing operation, out of almost 19,000 workers who were swabbed.

The tests were carried out after the emergence of a cluster of Covid-19 cases at the airport. This means a total of 43 airport workers have tested positive for Covid-19 so far, said the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) and Changi Airport Group (CAG) on Friday (May 21).

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/43-out-of-19000-airport-workers-test-positive-for-covid-19-source-likely-worker

[4:54 pm, 21/05/2021] +CQ: i don't need 2 minutes. 1 line can already. just STAY THE F AT HOME!!!

[4:55 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: That’s great news

[4:56 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: Maids ‘strongly encouraged’ to stay home during their rest days: MOM

Foreign domestic workers are “strongly encouraged” to stay at home during their rest days during this period of heightened alert against COVID-19, the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) said on Friday (May 21).

Domestic workers should also adhere to the prevailing safe management measures for Phase 2 (Heightened Alert) that are applicable to everyone, added the ministry.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-foreign-domestic-workers-maids-encourage-stay-home-off-14856732

[4:56 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Lol not qualify… the NCID ones then can

[5:03 pm, 21/05/2021] +Simon: We have a doctor in the house?💪🏼

[5:03 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Wonderful

[5:05 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: A comforting outcome also a HAPPY problem...

The 50% unvaccinated will think that things seem OK, no hurry and dire strait like other BIG country facing...

Here comes Complacency....

[5:06 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Yes

[5:06 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: Haha won’t own up one lar…  doctor will be ask so much questions 😂😂😂

[5:06 pm, 21/05/2021] +Smiley face: Can we beat Pres Biden 4th July target? Ahead of the curve and beating the red light...

[5:07 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: https://str.sg/JvHP

so whats the point of TraceTogether?

[5:08 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: https://www.facebook.com/145462252193638/posts/5527875703952239/?d=n

[5:08 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: why tracetogether token data was not check if the import pax was infected.

[5:08 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: because they were on full PPE?

[5:09 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: do the airport workers get the same training as medical workers on PPE?

[5:09 pm, 21/05/2021] +Kevin: Means what? Tomorrow community case will be more than 43?!

[5:13 pm, 21/05/2021] +CQ: no, this number refers to those working at Changi Airport and reported in the cluster. there's a total of 100 in that cluster so far, 43 of them are actually working at Changi Airport.

[5:23 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: #GoodNews for all our hardworking delivery drivers! 🏍🚗🙌🏻

More : https://www.facebook.com/132581033478808/posts/5517151798355011/

[5:46 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: Grace period at HDB, URA car parks to be doubled to 20 minutes

The grace period for parking at car parks managed by the Housing Development Board and the Urban Redevelopment Authority will be extended from 10 minutes to 20 minutes from Sunday (May 23).  

The move will give "more time for delivery drivers and riders to park their vehicles and make their deliveries", Minister for National Development Desmond Lee said on Friday. 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/grace-period-ura-hdb-public-car-park-delivery-20-minutes-14856772

[6:06 pm, 21/05/2021] +Dong Liang: Amazing work to address this so fast. Reassuring so few were positive. That's a tiny %. Well caught.

[6:06 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional. What I know is from what is available from mainstream media sources.

My layman take on CV19 is that it is THE flu virus of our generation. Just like how in the past our forefathers died of what we now call the "common flu". 

What is worrying about CV19 (to me) is that (it seems) the mutation had made the virus much more effective in surviving and replicating while it, being a "parasite", harms the hosts' body. It has already mutated to a more virulent/transmisble form. Imagine what will happen if/when it then mutates to become more lethal?

For a virus to gain longevity, it would be advantages to be/have:

1. Stealth - able to avoid/delay detection while being transmissible

2. Highly infectious - Efficient mode of transmission eg. carried in the aerosols from a host's sneeze

3. Low Fatality rate - So the host can continue to spread the virus to other hosts. In fact, when the hosts are not severely incapacitated ie. "healthy" enough move around and continue with daily routine, the more effective the transmission to other hosts. 

CV19 checks all those boxes. That's why it is so difficult to eradicate. The more recent mutations have shown that it has evolved in ways that makes stealthier. Most hosts are now asymptomatic while being infectious! 

Since everyone's biological response to a virus is different, if it manages to infect more hosts, the probability that the virus will gain stronger or more lethal mutations increases. The surviving virus is either strong enough to render our immune system/drug ineffective, or its smart enough to evade our defenses. Either way, its bad news since it will continue to replicate and infect more hosts until it is stopped. The mutations occur at an exponential rate with every additional host it can infect. That's why it is so important to halt the transmission. 

Some wonder what there is to fear if mortality rate is low and most patients do not seem to fall extremely ill. Well, some studies have shown that there are lingering/long-term effects from catching CV19. The most commonly cited being respiratory related issues such as permanently and acutely reduced lung function. What other long term harm/issues will a newer mutation cause?

Remember HIV? Noticed that the CV19 has very similar characteristics? You can't immediately identify someone with HIV/CV19. A host can remain asymptomatic for long periods while being infectious at the same time. The hosts can survive for long periods even after being infected. The incubation period varies widely. The social impact from HIV and CV19 - people are forced to distance from each other / change the way we interact out of fear of getting infected. It's been almost 40 years since HIV was first identified.

We are unlikely to find a silver bullet that can eradicate the virus. The current vaccines will most likely require regular (annual?) booster shots. If we all coorperate, slow the transmission, err on the side of caution, we buy time for the experts - doctors/scientists - to develop better understanding of the virus, more effective vaccines and therapeutics to counter the CV19 virus, then I think, in the best case scenario, this eventually gets downgraded to a similar level as influenza. Either that, or we would have become accustomed to a new way of life 😅[6:06 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Lightning speed action!

[6:07 pm, 21/05/2021] +Dong Liang: Good thinking,  shows consideration. Well done.

[6:07 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Yes

[6:08 pm, 21/05/2021] +Dong Liang: A very coherent analysis.

[6:10 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: 🙏😊

[6:10 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

My close friend comments about vaccination hesitancy:-

We can argue for 20 years about potential late effects of vaccines provided we survive this pandemic 😅

The virus won't wait...

[6:11 pm, 21/05/2021] +Rama: Agree

[6:13 pm, 21/05/2021] +Ken: https://www.todayonline.com/world/latest-coronavirus-comes-from-dogs

😅

[6:21 pm, 21/05/2021] +CQ: My analysis is similar to yours, though i'm less optimistic. I think by the time we're done inoculating everyone (or even before then), we'd have yet another strain which is able to break through the vaccine barrier and reduce the efficacy of the vaccines. As it is, we're already seeing signs of this in the B1617 strain. Fortunately, those who are infected despite being vaccinated are not seriously ill, but we not be as lucky with a future variant.

So while I do agree that this may be the new "flu" of our generation, I don't think we'd be able to get away with it as easily. Lifestyle may eventually go back to what it used to be, but it would just be because people have given up trying to control it or go back into lockdowns because govts around the world would rather protect the economy.

[6:21 pm, 21/05/2021] +CQ: so two similar thought processes, but very different outcome! obviously i've gotten very jaded with life. lol!

[6:25 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: Frankly, i don’t see this going away unless we have a globally coordinated lockdown for at least a month. 

Which means ... we can only pin our hopes on the scientists coming up with vaccines & therapeutics faster.

[6:25 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: 😓

[6:38 pm, 21/05/2021] +Dong Liang: My friend just got invited for vaccine but not many slots, earliest end of June and nothing close by.

[6:43 pm, 21/05/2021] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Good 

That means the take up rate very high.

[6:44 pm, 21/05/2021] +CQ: My hubby just got his SMS as well, and it's left with all the weird vaccination centres. He couldn't get the Raffles City one

[6:45 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,

⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰

Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan

[6:52 pm, 21/05/2021] +Caleb: Can open up in June liao?

[6:58 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: Changi Airport terminals and Jewel to remain closed to public; additional COVID-19 testing for 'very high-risk' arrivals

Changi Airport's passenger terminals as well as Jewel will remain closed to the public until the end of the Phase 2 (Heightened Alert) period, while all arrivals from "very high-risk" countries and regions will undergo additional COVID-19 testing.

All passengers arriving at Changi Airport from very high-risk countries or regions will now have to undergo on-arrival antigen rapid tests (ART) in addition to the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests they currently take, said CAAS and CAG. The new testing regime took effect on Thursday.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-changi-airport-additional-testing-jewel-terminals-close-14856856

[7:00 pm, 21/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: MOM, this is the time to be decisive and forceful. If you can make it MANDATORY for employers to give FDWs at least 1 day off per week, I don’t see why you can’t pass a temporary law during this critical period, to stop FDWs from roaming the streets on their off days and instead, place the burden on employers to enforce a “non-law”. 

While i have no problem encouraging my FDW to stay home because she has been with our family for over 10 yrs and is equally terrified of catching CV19, I can imagine there are many others who don’t enjoy this same privilege. 

If you have been keeping an ear close to the ground, you would probably be aware that FDWs now have the upper hand when it comes to negotiations of employment terms due to the availability of replacement FDWs at short notice. Make it MANDATORY. “Strongly Encourage” is meaningless!

[7:00 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,

We will be closing the chat for today.

Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan 😊

[7:04 pm, 21/05/2021] +REACH: [Sent by Gov.sg – 21 May]

As of 12pm, MOH has preliminarily confirmed 30 new cases of locally transmitted COVID-19 infection. Amongst them, 16 had already been placed on quarantine earlier.

Based on investigations so far, the cases are in the community, and there are no new cases in the dormitories.

There are 10 imported cases, who had already been placed on Stay-Home Notice upon arrival in Singapore. All were identified through testing while they were in SHN facilities.

In total, there are 40 new cases of COVID-19 infection in Singapore today.

MOH will share further updates in its press release that will be issued later tonight.

go.gov.sg/moh210521update

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